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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#2001
On August 12 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.


Why is this unlucky?

With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him?

But that is just theorycrafting.


I don't really understand what you mean?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#2002
On August 12 2013 04:07 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.


Why is this unlucky?

With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him?

But that is just theorycrafting.

Why would scum shooting Xat mean that the second visitor was trying to protect him?

Scum is not going to kill him and going to send a guy to him.
I had a good night of sleep.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 11 2013 19:20 GMT
#2003
yea, ignore yamato

after him, i would really, really like to kill acro
ATOBTTR
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 19:21 GMT
#2004
On August 12 2013 04:20 s0Lstice wrote:
yea, ignore yamato

after him, i would really, really like to kill acro


Or Mr. X if Oberyn doesn't deem him trustworthy.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 11 2013 19:22 GMT
#2005
yea thats a strange wrinkle, still turning that over
ATOBTTR
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2006
On August 12 2013 04:16 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 04:01 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:59 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, so Yamato is scum (unless he's playing 100% against his win condition atm).

This means that Sharrant is almost confirmed town. I think it's also pretty safe to start looking at Yamato's filter and suspicious interactions with / posts about Yamato.

I'm dying to unravel the mystery of my roleblock, but if Oberyn is convinced that the information should be kept hidden, so be it.

Acro, why am I apparently your scum suspect? Referring to your PM about Lannisters. I'd really like to know what's your basis.

no yamatos filter is useless and is wifom you can get reads possibly from how players interacted with him but not how he interacted with others.


Hmm. I don't entirely agree, but his filter is too chaotic to read to get anything very conclusive out of it.

I'm left suspicious with Acro's first list post though. It was basically jrkirby & FT & Yamato (with little reasoning and none for Yamato). Scum often include one scum in their list posts to look like they're "not completely wrong". Considering that the list was weak anyways, I get the feeling he just put two easy mislynch lurkers there and one weak scum (or even 2 scum if jrkirby is scum, but that's less likely). That's the classic and easiest possible tactic for scum to look like they're contributing a bit. I've done and seen it done countless times. Thoughts?

Yes Acro also softbusses team members.

that's also META
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2007
I'm so meta right now.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 11 2013 19:31 GMT
#2008
yea Acro has been softing EVERYTHING this game

his vote on jkirby towards the end of day 1 is going to be very interesting to return to if acro is indeed scum
ATOBTTR
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 11 2013 19:35 GMT
#2009
acro is an old man, he's getting soft.

On all parts.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2010
Nice to see you 2 being friends again. House Baratheon so stronk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#2011
You're not invited.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 19:57 GMT
#2012
On August 12 2013 04:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
You're not invited.


That's kind of harsh, even I have to say.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 19:59 GMT
#2013
And if Acro flips scum I'm almost sure that s0Lstice is town. He'd need to be really ruthless to start bussing at a time like this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 20:04 GMT
#2014
On August 12 2013 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 04:07 Chromatically wrote:
On August 12 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
I am back. I had soccer and couldn't post till now. I tried to make posts on my phone but it kept saying "Bad Request". I don't know how to fix it. I tried closing my browser, shutting down phone, reconnecting to the internet. Nothing.

Only Gumshoe dieing is strange. I can't believe scum hitted him when they knew Lords were going to kill him. This leaves 2 options: Scum knew gum had only 1 hp left or there is an SK that wanted to hide in that kill (I tried that in Sicilian). If the first is true than there is a mole in the Lanister House. iamp saying that it is a vigi is just ridiculous, why would a vigi waste a shot on a target that is going to die anyway? I don't think grack+iamp is scum though, because if they were they should just have kept their mouths shut, and just kill one of their members to keep their House under control and nobody would even find out about the HP check.

Mr.X seems like a trustworthy person for Oberyn, otherwise I see no reason why Oberyn hasn't said his name yet. It's a bit unlucky that both Onegu and Mr.X visited Xatalos, otherwise people not dieing could be seen as a successful safe on Xatalos instead of one of the visitors must be scum.

Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.


Why is this unlucky?

With only Gumshoe dieing we can safely assume that scum tried to kill Xatalos right? Well, it is not 100% certain but chances are high. So most likely both visitors wanted to safe Xatalos instead of killing him?

But that is just theorycrafting.

Why would scum shooting Xat mean that the second visitor was trying to protect him?

Scum is not going to kill him and going to send a guy to him.


It doesn't seem likely that scum tried to kill me. It's pretty much
1) Onegu protected me and X roleblocked me
or
2) Onegu protected/attacked me and X jailed me

1 seems more likely and even in case 2 it seems more likely that Onegu protected me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#2015
Wagon of Justice on Acro:
- Xatalos
- Dandel Ion
- s0Lstice

Any more to join?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 11 2013 20:08 GMT
#2016
I think factional KP is probably not sent by anybody.
It's like, magic and shit. zoom.

I bet the scumteam is all "I b a wizzzard" all the time
too bad they didn't manage to kill anybody.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 11 2013 20:11 GMT
#2017
On August 12 2013 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
I think factional KP is probably not sent by anybody.
It's like, magic and shit. zoom.

I bet the scumteam is all "I b a wizzzard" all the time
too bad they didn't manage to kill anybody.


I asked about this earlier and the answer is: we don't know if it's factional or not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#2018
Actually where are Ace and Vivax? What have they done so far? Nothing I think. They're probably scum as well (at least one of them).

Not sure about scum KP, but I think it's more common to have someone (or several Mafiosos) deal it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#2019
So... wasn't ace supposed to like catch up and be useful or something?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#2020
#wavelength
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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