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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#4121
I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone.
Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies).
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 20:48 GMT
#4122
Yeah it's gonna be me or rayn fo sho
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#4123
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#4124
On August 05 2013 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone.
Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies).

If you are mafia that´s an easy way out. You buss two of your teammates because you only need to lynch Stutters after that. What differentiates you from Stutters? Why are you town over him, because i am pretty sure everyone else is town? Stutters is saying the same stuff you are. Hell, if we could flip Koshi & FT right now and they both flipped mafia how am i going to tell which one of you/Stutters is mafia because you both look equally good/bad and you are not trying to do anything to look better than the other one?

I can´t tell you what you should be asking them. That eliminates the purpose of "proving why you are town" because i would be giving you the correct answers in the first place. You should be figuring out how to expose mafia and prove why you are town and then convince the rest of the town of it.

It´s not my job to do that for you.
table for two on a tv tray
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#4125
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#4126
On August 05 2013 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone.
Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies).

Why am I scum? Tell me.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#4127
On August 05 2013 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah it's gonna be me or rayn fo sho

Possible. I could imagine CJS being killed too.

Koshi, I think everyone gets that you don't like rayns and hzs play by now. Would you stop it now?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4128
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?

It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it.

Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there.
I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#4129
On August 05 2013 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah it's gonna be me or rayn fo sho

Possible. I could imagine CJS being killed too.

Koshi, I think everyone gets that you don't like rayns and hzs play by now. Would you stop it now?

I will.
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 20:58 GMT
#4130
Can we read anything new into this now that we know Malongo was scum?

On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real):
hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats.
Details tomorrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 20:59 GMT
#4131
On August 05 2013 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I made pretty clear that I'm absolutely sure about Koshi and FT being scum. What should I ask them? FT doesn't need to be here answering any questions it seems. Still he avoided being lynched 2 times and it probably will be the third time tomorrow while koshi just throws shit at everyone.
Fine, I will look closer into stutters/oats the tomorrow/the day after that but we can only lynch one person this day and I would like to see the nightkill before (although it would surprise me if it's not a confirmed townie who dies).

If you are mafia that´s an easy way out. You buss two of your teammates because you only need to lynch Stutters after that. What differentiates you from Stutters? Why are you town over him, because i am pretty sure everyone else is town? Stutters is saying the same stuff you are. Hell, if we could flip Koshi & FT right now and they both flipped mafia how am i going to tell which one of you/Stutters is mafia because you both look equally good/bad and you are not trying to do anything to look better than the other one?

I can´t tell you what you should be asking them. That eliminates the purpose of "proving why you are town" because i would be giving you the correct answers in the first place. You should be figuring out how to expose mafia and prove why you are town and then convince the rest of the town of it.

It´s not my job to do that for you.

Fair enough. It was a rhetorical question. If I knew how I could make myself look stutters right now I would do it.
Like I said before I will take a closer look tomorrow. You have a lot of time to figure out if it's me or him or maybe oats so I have some time to come up with a good reasoning.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 20:59 GMT
#4132
Also, I don't believe FT is scum. At least he looks through the bullshit. I don't see scum doing that.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#4133
On August 05 2013 05:59 Koshi wrote:
Also, I don't believe FT is scum. At least he looks through the bullshit. I don't see scum doing that.

You are a funny guy.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#4134
On August 05 2013 05:58 hzflank wrote:
Can we read anything new into this now that we know Malongo was scum?

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real):
hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats.
Details tomorrow.

Can you stop fucking asking us questions and answer them yourself. Let us think about your ideas.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 21:01 GMT
#4135
EBWOP: look better than stutters*
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#4136
On August 05 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?

It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it.

Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there.
I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.


Yes it was disruptive in a way.
But are you trying to say you do not see townies trying to make an effort in the both of them?
Do you think a scum hz, who is pretty confirmed before he started pushing xrz, would put all that effort into all of the association stuff just to bury a discussion about the xrz lynch, which was pretty much going to happen anyway once he made some very valid points.

I don't get you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 21:05 GMT
#4137
I can tell you that you should be arguing with your scumreads, ask them specific questions about your other scumreads. You should already know what you expect them to answer. As mafia it´s often hard to keep your story straight and town would not win these games if mafia didn´t fuck up or if mafia did always act naturally towards each other. Most mafia players can´t do that, and any mafia player can´t do that all of the time. That´s what exposes them and that´s how you get out of a bad spot if people think you are mafia.

The one of you four who is town is our best (and pretty much only) chance of winning by starting discussion between these four people. For me/hz/Clarity/Cora/Oats it is incredibly hard to tell the difference between you all because you have not been interacting with each other for a long time.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#4138
On August 05 2013 06:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:53 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:51 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 05:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@Koshi

You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?

I didn't just sheep on XRZ. I clearly, very very clearly said why I was on XRZ. The lynch on XRZ was not a bad lynch. The reasons that I gave were more than enough to lynch him without him defended on that.

What bad is:
-Making a million association cases that prove that it is not bad to lynch XRZ anyway. (how does 1 defend himself against that, you don't even ask the guy questions?)
-Starting the day with some insane vigor to get XRZ lynched and then actually succeeding in 60 minutes when all the other people are asleep, then when these other people join the thread not listen to them and just tunnel XRZ into the ground.


THIS DOES NOT MAKE RAYN AND HZ SCUM. BUT IT IS FUCKING HORRIBLE TOWN PLAY. and perfect scum play.

If it doesn't make then scum why are you talking about it?

It doesn't prove they are scum. But you think I am scum because I obviously troll/derail the thread/make it bad to scumhunt. These 2 do it unobvious and you are not seeing it.

Sure I would like to discuss with JAT on how he thinks I am scum and how I think he is scum. But in the meantime we got to read 1000 posts about how XRZ is scum and who the scumteams are. In which we are all mentioned. So our first reaction was to defend us there.
I didn't even bother doing that on my phone. But I can tell you that thinking on persuing JAT was far from my mind. Silly me.


Yes it was disruptive in a way.
But are you trying to say you do not see townies trying to make an effort in the both of them?
Do you think a scum hz, who is pretty confirmed before he started pushing xrz, would put all that effort into all of the association stuff just to bury a discussion about the xrz lynch, which was pretty much going to happen anyway once he made some very valid points.

I don't get you.

Didn't I fucking tell you that is what hz does? Read my fucking case on him day 1. The case where I prove that he was thinking that me and Paper were both scum and where he was thinking I knew Paper was town on the same moment.

Hzflank plays perfect like scum. Him playing like this to completely fuck us up is what he does. ffs. Too bad there is no fucking SK to kill the guy in this gamen because he is confirmed town as scum..........
I had a good night of sleep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#4139
rayn you're doing that thing again. Where you say the exact same thing multiple times, phrased differently.
I thought you had a really good point the first time around and agreed with everything in that post.

*pat pat*

It's okay.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:07 GMT
#4140
On August 05 2013 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can tell you that you should be arguing with your scumreads, ask them specific questions about your other scumreads. You should already know what you expect them to answer. As mafia it´s often hard to keep your story straight and town would not win these games if mafia didn´t fuck up or if mafia did always act naturally towards each other. Most mafia players can´t do that, and any mafia player can´t do that all of the time. That´s what exposes them and that´s how you get out of a bad spot if people think you are mafia.

The one of you four who is town is our best (and pretty much only) chance of winning by starting discussion between these four people. For me/hz/Clarity/Cora/Oats it is incredibly hard to tell the difference between you all because you have not been interacting with each other for a long time.

You fucking know that you have made 740 posts this game? 500 must be about how FT and XRZ are scum. And only that.
I had a good night of sleep.
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