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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 21:41 GMT
#4161
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)


They can easily roleblock rayn and keep him alive.
How does that change the alignment of rayn oats and hz?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 21:42 GMT
#4162
On August 05 2013 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:38 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:34 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote:
hz let's talk about FT. You read his filter?


Read dad 2 and 3. Have not read day 1 in a long time.

IIRC Day 1 was looking town, except for the exchange with Exar.

Day 2 FT was more town at the time.

Day 3 FT looks like scum. FT was not putting a lot of thought into solving anything day 3, either scum or yolo.

Day 2 he was so close to being lynched. Under heavy pressure it is hard to say things when everything you read is: guys if XRZ flips scum FT is scum in these combinations BUT if XRZ flips town FT is scum in these combinations.

It's sad.


I am talking about before that. He was not trying to solve anything before I got super deep into associations. In fact when I said that stuff about lynch order it was all a trap for FT (JAT thought the trap was for him), but FT did not really post after that.

But you think that FT his day 2 looked scum? Why?


It's his day 3 that looks the worst. I did not initially want to vote for FT on day 2, but people were consolidating on FT and Malongo and of the two I thought that FT was more likely to be scum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:43 GMT
#4163
On August 05 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote:
Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today.


I am on a point that I put rayn and hz on that scumlist. Also Oats if rayn doesn't die today.

It's exactly the same. ffs.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 21:44 GMT
#4164
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)

But how much sense does one blue (vet) make if scum has a roleblocker? Not much.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:45 GMT
#4165
On August 05 2013 06:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)


They can easily roleblock rayn and keep him alive.
How does that change the alignment of rayn oats and hz?

How I see rayn at this point.

Day 1: YELL KOSHI LYNCH FT LYNCH LIKE I DO EVERY FUCKING GAME.
Day 2: YELL FT LYNCH MAKE IT HAPPEN! (like I said FT is not even looking scummy)
Day 3: START THE DAY PROVING XRZ IS SCUM (why the fuck?) CONTINUE YELLING XRZ IS SCUM 24/7

Rayn his 700 posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 21:45 GMT
#4166
No, assuming that Rayn dies:

1) hz + Oats
2) hz + Oats

Assuming that Rayn does not die:

1) Rayn + Oats
2) Rayn + hz

It was not exactly the same. You changed it and I asked why. If you are not going to tell me why then there is no point in discussing it.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 21:46 GMT
#4167
On August 05 2013 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)

But how much sense does one blue (vet) make if scum has a roleblocker? Not much.

A scum rb and vet is completely balanced. It does not matter than scum have an RB if there is nothing to block, so it cancels each other out.

Just saying. I still think Rayn is cop, but the setup is possible without one.
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:46 GMT
#4168
On August 05 2013 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)

But how much sense does one blue (vet) make if scum has a roleblocker? Not much.

Maybe there is a blue still hiding. Who knows. No doc on vivax is strange. No doc on Vayne isn't. We will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:48 GMT
#4169
hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2.

However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:50 GMT
#4170
On August 05 2013 06:45 hzflank wrote:
No, assuming that Rayn dies:

1) hz + Oats
2) hz + Oats

Assuming that Rayn does not die:

1) Rayn + Oats
2) Rayn + hz

It was not exactly the same. You changed it and I asked why. If you are not going to tell me why then there is no point in discussing it.

Ughhhhh, can somebody else tell me that I changed it? Because I think I didn't. I don't see it.
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#4171
On August 05 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote:
hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2.

However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn?


I thought that Rayn might be scum on D2. I was going to go hard after Rayn D3 but then the Exar thing happened. Now I believe that Rayn is town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 21:56 GMT
#4172
On August 05 2013 06:46 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)

But how much sense does one blue (vet) make if scum has a roleblocker? Not much.

A scum rb and vet is completely balanced. It does not matter than scum have an RB if there is nothing to block, so it cancels each other out.

Just saying. I still think Rayn is cop, but the setup is possible without one.

But would 1 vet be balanced in a 10/4 majority setup? Sorry, I don't know about this stuff.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:58 GMT
#4173
On August 05 2013 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:46 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam.
…
Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see.


To make it more clear:
HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam

Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?)

But how much sense does one blue (vet) make if scum has a roleblocker? Not much.

A scum rb and vet is completely balanced. It does not matter than scum have an RB if there is nothing to block, so it cancels each other out.

Just saying. I still think Rayn is cop, but the setup is possible without one.

But would 1 vet be balanced in a 10/4 majority setup? Sorry, I don't know about this stuff.

If scum has basically 4 goons then it is possible. (Without a rayn as cop a RB does nothing. Godfather nothing as well.) But meh, I think that rayn is a cop.

Also, can you stop making posts about setup and tell us why FT is scum. Mr. I-say-I-make-cases-but-I-never-do-ever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 21:59 GMT
#4174
On August 05 2013 06:51 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote:
hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2.

However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn?


I thought that Rayn might be scum on D2. I was going to go hard after Rayn D3 but then the Exar thing happened. Now I believe that Rayn is town.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Because he tunnels your townread and a flipped town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 22:02 GMT
#4175
Ok. So where I am standing now.

JAT could be scum. Reasons have been given before. Mr. I never my cases and ask silly questions. This is me being scum in NWM. Fuck this this guy is red if he doesn't step it up.
Rayn could be scum, but I don't think so, he is just terrible town. I am going to rethink this when he claims roleblocked.
hzflank is not terrible so I think he is scum.
FT is town. I don't see why he is scum.
Cora. I don't know, stubborn player for sure.
Clarity. Town. The good kind.
Oats. Probably scum getting carried. Just comes in to put some more venom in this thread.
Stutters Who the fuck knows. I made a case on this guy. I already forgot what was in that.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 22:02 GMT
#4176
No, I won't make a case today. I wont be awake for long and simply don't have the time to do so at the moment. I have to get up in 5 hours.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 22:03 GMT
#4177
Funny.

GUYS YOUR TOP 1 SCUMREAD IS IN THE THREAD. TIME TO BECOME SURE!!!!!!!!
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 22:03 GMT
#4178
On August 05 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:51 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote:
hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2.

However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn?


I thought that Rayn might be scum on D2. I was going to go hard after Rayn D3 but then the Exar thing happened. Now I believe that Rayn is town.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Because he tunnels your townread and a flipped town?


Because he casually claimed cop and stuck with it. Because the N1 check he claims to have made makes sense considering Rayne's play on D2. As scum Rayn did not need to force that lynch on FT by claiming cop. It would of been much better to just sac Malongo.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#4179
Yeah, we kill Koshi tomorrow.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 22:06 GMT
#4180
On August 05 2013 07:03 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:51 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote:
hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2.

However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn?


I thought that Rayn might be scum on D2. I was going to go hard after Rayn D3 but then the Exar thing happened. Now I believe that Rayn is town.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Because he tunnels your townread and a flipped town?


Because he casually claimed cop and stuck with it. Because the N1 check he claims to have made makes sense considering Rayne's play on D2. As scum Rayn did not need to force that lynch on FT by claiming cop. It would of been much better to just sac Malongo.

Something he did as soon as another(!) cop just said that there was a red check on Malongo? First reaction should be OMG THERE IS ANOTHER COP?? REALLY?
I had a good night of sleep.
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