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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Anyways, i support the Koshi lynch in case i die. I´m going to take a relook into FT/Stutters/JAT before the deadline and post my thoughts about them. I don´t think anyone else can be scum. | ||
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Stutters695
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Why do you feel the need to ask what to talk about? Why not just tell the town who you think is mafia and why? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On August 05 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like the most problem i see in you being town Stutters is that you are not trying to find mafia or prove that you are town. That should come from you naturally. You are asking other people what you should tell them. That´s not a townie approach in my opinion. Why do you feel the need to ask what to talk about? Why not just tell the town who you think is mafia and why? Because this is MYLO and if you spend your last post(assuming your shot tonight) with a misguided conclusion that I'm scum tomorrow and people listen, it's gg. Tofu is 100% scum, I'd say Koshi is 95% and I have time to figure out the third for certain. If I get mislynched we lose and it makes no difference what I spend my time doing. Since I'm pretty damn confident they're both scum the only thing left for me to do is make sure I survive past them. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Read through Tofu's day 3 play again and then tell me that he must be town due to a day 1 townslip. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On August 05 2013 04:20 hzflank wrote: @Oats Read through Tofu's day 3 play again and then tell me that he must be town due to a day 1 townslip. QFT! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Here is my case again which I made on day 1. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote: HZFLANK If you have read the pages around 59-61 you will see that that hzflank is defending a lot of the flak he is getting by saying that he was only 50% sure about Paper being scum and that he didn't have any better reads on another player, and that he felt it was his duty as town to push the wagon he believed the most in. Anybody that followed the thread yesterday knows that hzflank was pretty stuck on Paper and that a small miracle had to happen for him to change his vote. I could have been that miracle but I am not even going to discuss how strange that is after all the nullreads I got from hz this game. I would like to put your focus on how other wagons or people that didn't believe Paper was scum were treated, in the spoilers below you have exchanges with XRZ and Oats. But a lot of you had interactions with hzflank on why he was thinking Paper was the best read. Did you back then believed it was a 50% read of him? Come on... + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2013 00:02 hzflank wrote: I think that Paper is scum. However, that read may possibly change (If I am given reason to change it), and if it does change then there is every possibility that they are both town. Their interactions with you in no way preclude them from both being town. + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2013 22:59 hzflank wrote: Lol Oats, so obvious. Oats and Paper both scum, FT and JAT both town. Vivax probably town. He thinks I am scum because I seemed to be soft defending JAT. Now these 2 quotes are a few of many attempts by hzflank (and XRZ is guilty of this as well) to control the thread with their scumreads. It's funny how they even say "we should only have 1 wagon because scum wants 2 town wagons on day 1" with XRZ countering that at least 1 of FT and Paper is scum so that these are perfect wagons... (little secret: FT looks town like hell for a FT Day 1 and especially his behavior during lynch) But Koshi you should not make associations like that, right? Ok ok. Let's keep this case focused on hzflank. (just remember while you read Vivax his case) I will repeat again that this behaviour of hzflank resembles a game I recently played with him. Please take into considering that I am telling the truth here without me been able to verify that. Some of the things that you can verify is that hz is a high volume poster, he has a lot of posts and scum that is able to post a shitton is very hard to lynch, extremely hard, unless they screw up. Which hz did: Remember that hzflank is a high volume poster. He posts a lot and that is why in general it is almost impossible to lynch these guys. But what is hzflask his defense on this misstep? He says that he isn't scum because if he was scum he would not have replied to me. THIS is bullshit. Believe me. This is bullshit and you should not believe it. hzflank replied to my post (that wasn't directed at him btw but more at rayn and Vivax trying to change votes to FT) in a way that you should see as a scared scum response. This is why, and there are a few replies of hzflank that he posted in defense that make what I type here true, go look them up: (I rewrote the points I make here to make it easier to understand than before) But as scum? THIS ONLY HAPPENS IN A SCUMBRAIN!!! + Show Spoiler + On July 29 2013 21:00 hzflank wrote: I believed that Koshi and/or Paper might be scum. Obviously I did not have a 100% read on either of you. I was trying to work out why town-Koshi would switch his vote to Paper so easily. My conclusion was that it was because you thought that Paper was town and that it would help your case against me. I was wrong though and unfortunately I was not thinking clearly enough. That is actually a better reason for scum-Koshi to vote for Paper than for town-Koshi to. It is easier to say that in hindsight though, now that I know that Paper was town. A scum player would not even need to try to work out why Koshi was voting for Paper. A scum player would just go with it and settle for lynching a townie. Conclusion: Lynch, shoot and kill this guy. Burn his body afterwards. You guys do remember hz his first day right? Tunneling paper and not putting any effort on other people. hz his second day compared to his first was way more open, really good and I have no problem at all with that day, except around the lynch he was making stupid posts again. Posts containing stupid question like: "In rayns mind there are 5 people confirmed town, does rayn play like that?". hz his third day was making 500 association posts (which all concluded that FT or me should be lynched next unless XRZ flipped red) and saying how hard he was looking for signs that XRZ was town. BUT WHO THE FUCK KNOWS WHO IS SCUM in this game. You guys don't. None of you. Except them scummies ofc. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
But why put pressure on XRZ? I was thinking this guy was the cop and rayn the fake. It would make sense that rayn actually is a cop, I even think he is. But he should die now. NOW. Tonight. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 05 2013 05:03 Oatsmaster wrote: so koshi you giving up? Nope. I haven't lost a game yet and haven't been lynched yet. So let's not make me getting lynched my first loss. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular) You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 05 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: It is an argument that makes sense for those people to make who didn´t vote for XRZ. The dude fucking believed my case was good and sheeped me. Now he blames me for lynching town when in the whole game he has made no effort in lynching anyone, just vote with someone with no real reasoning of his own. In addition to that, if you are town and get lynched you are doing something wrong. It´s always your fault if you get lynched as town and noone else´s, unless there are only scum votes on you and the lynch goes somehow through that way. If you look townie as town you should not get lynched. It´s that simple and there is a reason certain players get never mislynched as town and some people do. You fucking know how you played Day 3 right? If you and hzflank are both town. You 2 fucking lost this game. It's that simple. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 05 2013 05:10 Clarity_nl wrote: Koshi, since you won't admit to being scum, are you admitting to being terrible town? Say all you want about rayn and hz, they've been making an effort (hz in particular) You can't possibly believe hz is scum at this point Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait. I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 05 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote: Yes I admit that and you will never see me play like this. It's a newbie mistake. Rayn doesn't like me saying I am bad at this game but it is true. This is my 5th game and I still have to make a lot of mistakes for the first time. It's what it is. I decided to give stupid list on day 1 and trolled early day 2. I shot all my credibility and I pay for that now. On top of that I am easy lynchbait. I failed town this game. I know it. But 200 pages later, I know that it should have been possible for me to redeem myself. But it is hard when there 1 guy screaming at everybody to lynch XRZ and another guy making association cases 24/7. That's all what these 2 confirmed townies have done. Instead of playing this normal, keep asking good questions and try to really figure out who the scums are. Wait. Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town? | ||
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