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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:15 GMT
#1231
On July 24 2013 22:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:10 FiveTouch wrote:
... Then why replace in?

still marv.


Cause I figured I could catch up to the game. But I can't.
And now none of my opinions matter because I've already claimed and you are all going to vote for me if TAA flips scum so...


The game really hasn't had that much going on in it. If you've read the pages, you've caught up.

Nor are you even close to an auto-lynch next if TAA flips mafia?

Stop being such a give-up goose. Seriously, in the last few months I've come under regular and repeated pressure in games, and it IS tiring. Really tiring. But whatever spot you're in, if you're town, really isn't that bad.

If you're mafia, then feel free to carry on down this road, though. If you're town, stop being lame <3
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:17 GMT
#1233
Because you don't lynch people for saying stupid shit.

Saying stupid shit is not a scumtell (necessarily). In fact, often quite the opposite, as i'm sure you're aware.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:20 GMT
#1235
I mean if we were going to lynch people for saying stupid shit, we'd be lynching Onegu for randomly claiming.

Eh? :D
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:21 GMT
#1238
It literally causes no chaos, other than the chaos you're making it create.

It's a random, stupid throwaway comment that can be ignored, and then it's just one more silly post to ignore.

And it doesn't show those things at all. It only shows those things if he's genuinely serious and pursues it, of which there is no evidence. Come on Cora, you're pulling a TAA from Day 1.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:23 GMT
#1239
To quote my earlier response to TAA on Day 1:

On July 22 2013 02:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Definitely ad hominem <3

As you're actually creating content, I'll be nice. It's just that none of the things you list as scummy are actually not scummy in the slightest.

Show nested quote +
1) very noncommittal
2) prepared too lynch a townie (scum knows theyre pushing to lynch town thats why they make excuses "these lurkers will ruin late game" "lynching xyz would be fun")
3) lots of posts without content


1) If I'd wanted, I could easily have just tunnelled getmoript. Attacking someone and retracting isn't scummy, it's just natural ebb and flow of the game at this stage.
2) No evidence of this, you're just taking a scum point of view and presuming we want to lynch townies. It's just silly. Lurkers absolutely do ruin late game, and it's not scummy to say so. Anyone with a passing familiarity with my games knows my vote usually ends up on the scummiest lurker I can find at the end of day 1. Saying "lynching xyz would be fun" is basically the opposite of scummy, because it's clearly not serious. Unless you genuinely believe we want to actually lynch someone for fun? Do you even think mafia would say that?
3) No real reason this is scummy, townies tend to post more than scum.

~marv

Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:25 GMT
#1241
Because we don't think he's mafia anymore.

The reason we're in this situation is that almost the whole town lurked for Day 1, not because people talked too much about who they were going to vote for.

Why anyone would even consider lynching Oats today is completely beyond me.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:29 GMT
#1243
Whatever you'd normally like to do? Ask people questions, make cases if you like, etc. I'm sure you don't need my permission to get things moving along if you so wish ^_^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:39 GMT
#1250
On July 24 2013 22:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:30 Onegu wrote:
Cora what are your thoughts on jkirby?


The first thing I noticed yet again is that his filter is only two pages. At this point in the game, everyone should have a decent sized filter.

His vote on Oats was such a ridiculous sheep vote. There was literally no new reasoning behind his vote. His N1 consists of speculating about Zeph, and then he just goes back and votes for Oats and disappears.

It really looks scummy because he missed the Oats wagon falling apart and now he feels like he has to nonsensically tunnel Oats to maintain credibility.

I'd love to hear what he has to say on the 20 pages of thread that has elapsed since he has posted.


Eh, does this give you pause for thought about anything?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:40 GMT
#1251
Got pretty high hopes for TAA actually being the scum roleblocker and our vigi shot going through ^_^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:42 GMT
#1254
I think scum are very likely to have a roleblocker.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:47 GMT
#1259
On July 24 2013 22:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:42 FiveTouch wrote:
I think scum are very likely to have a roleblocker.
I thought we pretty much established that scum blocking TG made no sense and had to be town. The fact that there was only one roleblock (unless someone hasn't spoke up) makes it very unlikely that there's a scum roleblocker.


Apparently you haven't been reading VE's posts?

With the number of blues running around (maybe one is fake, dunno yet) with potentially more hidden away within our ranks, scum not having a roleblocker would be a massive balance issue.

Simplest, and most likely correct, explanation is that mafia have a roleblocker and roleblocked Tangeng because they dumb
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:48 GMT
#1260
Jarjar, are you the town roleblocker?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:51 GMT
#1261
Even if you are, that's yet another blue. Scum not having a roleblocker seems insane in that scenario. Maybe it was buried on rayn, I dunno.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 13:57 GMT
#1263
No, it isn't, as I've repeatedly explained.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 14:34 GMT
#1272
I would normally leave this to austin because he's so good at it, but:

Oats/Cora - ermahgerd, stahp!

Oats stop swearing at Cora
Cora stop telling Oats to start playing the game and other such stuff.

We goooood? ^^

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 15:05 GMT
#1275
I really like phagga's signature ^^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 15:52 GMT
#1280
On July 25 2013 00:42 austinmcc wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:47 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 22:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 24 2013 22:42 FiveTouch wrote:
I think scum are very likely to have a roleblocker.
I thought we pretty much established that scum blocking TG made no sense and had to be town. The fact that there was only one roleblock (unless someone hasn't spoke up) makes it very unlikely that there's a scum roleblocker.


Apparently you haven't been reading VE's posts?

With the number of blues running around (maybe one is fake, dunno yet) with potentially more hidden away within our ranks, scum not having a roleblocker would be a massive balance issue.

Simplest, and most likely correct, explanation is that mafia have a roleblocker and roleblocked Tangeng because they dumb
In a closed setup with a claimed RB on a guy who almost got lynched and then claimed vt during the night, I don't like this conclusion. When your simplest explanation relies on people being dumb, then it opens up LOTS of possibilities. Maybe scum RBed TG because they're dumb. Maybe someone claimed something dumb because dumb. Relying on "cuz dumb" is dumb.



Um, it doesn't rely on dumb, it just doesn't rule out dumb and therefore it is an acceptable explanation.

Leans heavily on basic balancing of a game as well. If there's a town roleblocker, a town vigi, 1 (2) town cops, and whatever else, not having a scum roleblocker is... icky, let's say.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 15:56 GMT
#1282
Afraid not. Despite the host warning there's not been sufficient dickishness for it to apply to. Or at least the wrong sort.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 16:04 GMT
#1287
On July 25 2013 01:00 getmoript wrote:
That's exceptionally disappointing. I was hoping that since I correctly used dick move analysis then I would be able to have some awesome combined two heads are better than one moment. Alas. So what do you think of Tofu?


It's reasonably niche, because you have to be careful with its application, otherwise you start going wrong. Gotta be strict with it.

I think Firm might be town for reasons already given by myself and austin. Not totally convinced, but I think so.

Process of elimination is leading me towards kirby being mafia.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#1290
I generally assume my assumptions and prerequisites are more accurate than yours austin, you know that <3
Artanis & marv
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