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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
lets look at it. The fact that he is very fast to doubt Marv's claim yet does not take a clear stance, the fact that he said that his french is rusty instead of just translating the sentence and the fact that he asks why his own posts are bad and then goes on to afk is rubbing me in a bad way. First point, isnt doubting marvs claiming meaning he thinks that marv might be scum? thats a stance. second point. thats a non-issue. third point: again, I dont see that being alignment indicative. Im sick and tired of people posting old posts about someone when things have changed. Gumshoe, if Rayn flips town, then I will be sorely disappointed. Ill probably move on to WoS I guess. I dunno, lotta time between now and lynch. Fuba is a lurker lynch, I dont think anything he posted is alignment indicative so far. I like that JJD thinks rayn is scum too, buddying works guys. Seriously, his suspicions on solstice is good I think, its a good point and some of what solstice posted there isnt awesome. Basically, he appears to be thinking like me and for today at least, I dont wanna lynch him. Dont know about GoT, dont care about GoT. So you think Stutters is scum mainly for activity issues. Come on. Thats not a good way to read someone. Think of a better reason or drop your read. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Look HOW he defends stutters. Not by saying why he is town. He is doing it by a really funky chain saw defense but purely against the points that Rayn makes. On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote: Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far. I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him:And here's the post in question:I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? On June 30 2013 13:10 JarJarDrinks wrote: How is the post scummy though? Yes, It's a pretty dumb statement because like you said: It makes no sense to think that scum would know how many millers are in the game. Which means there's no way the that it could implicate rayn as scum. So if any thought was given to that post, stutters would realize that. I think the fact that stutters clearly made the post without giving it much thought makes him more likely to be town. On June 30 2013 14:57 JarJarDrinks wrote: And look how he avoids to actually take a stance on either Stutters or Rayn. He just calls Rayn wierd and says his arguments are bad. But that doesn't make Stutters town in any way.Yeah this is what I was saying. If Stutters meant it as an accusation, it wasn't well thought out. I'd think that if scum was about to accuse someone of being scummy, they would first ask themselves "Is this at all believable?" Yhea, I can kill this guy. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not in any way sheeping marv, why do you say so? I am not "doing him a favour", i was trying to get him to work with me, allying with him, as i think we can catch scum together as we are both town and now i am telling people why i think he is town because apparently i am not allowed to have that opinion? Btw i have done that before, with a guy i thought might be SK at that moment. :D What you've just said is option a) your motive if your town, option b is ) Hmm if I help defend this guy whose guaranteed townie, I'll look good and be able to attack anyone who disagrees with us. It could go either way, it's a null action, but your overall attitude is not, it's decidedly pro town. Thats why I dont consider you a day 1 lynch but I dont want to just give you a free pass via your association with Marv. Also I'd prefer if people in general not try to prove some trait of theirs by referencing a past game, it's Wifom and I havent played this enough to factor it in. I will take things as they are within the vaccuum of this game. For the moment I'd like to drop the matter entirely, it's gone as far it'll go, do you have any questions for me that dont envolve the word miller I'll gladly take them. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You say that you will be looking to WoS if i would flip town. So you think i am right about WoS. Why the fuck do you want to lynch me first if you think either 1) i am right or 2) i am bussing him. You are making no sense now. Also you need to explain how solstice is scummy and how JarJar looks good. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I mean Look at how much time he has spent on Marv's miller claim. You know how to deal with a miller claim? You ignore it. All it means is don't DT check the person and that's it. Figure out their alignment just like you would anybody else. The fact that he goes on and on about it looks to me not like he is trying to get at Marv's alignment, but rather he is feeling comfortable talking about a very safe topic in preference to anything of consequence. When he made this quote: This is talking about Lazer but rayn does this too and he doesnt mention that. bad. Stutter's posts are townie, so him defending that isnt a scumtell. Come on lazer you arent this bad. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats you need to explain this to me. You say that you will be looking to WoS if i would flip town. So you think i am right about WoS. Why the fuck do you want to lynch me first if you think either 1) i am right or 2) i am bussing him. You are making no sense now. Also you need to explain how solstice is scummy and how JarJar looks good. Because WoS might be town too. I have a stronger read on you, therefore I wanna lynch you first. How is that hard to understand? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:46 Stutters695 wrote: And as I type that he drops a case, fuck phone posting. Reading that real quick I wrote a huge case on why I felt Rayne didn't deserve auto town statues, proposing effectively that he go from green to null. I also am not dropping the case on you not because your generaly inactive, but because of a certain period in which you were inactive, a stretch of time wherein we could of used you to clarify things, contribute and clear your name, instead you vanished at a critical moment and that felt to me like you were trying to regroup with scum and wait things out. Which worked, nobodies really mad at you anymore, so of course your here now eager to help. That said your not my number one scum read, Jar Jar is and Oat is second. Just dont ask me to drop the case because my reason for suspecting you is still there. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Okay, fair enough. I'll give you that things have changed and that those things aren't exactly the best to base reads off anymore. Though I still think its fishy that he didn't translate those posts. And that he doesn't really put any effort into the game and later justify that by saying "that's how I always play". But Jarjar looks worse. Stutters can wait actually. how many fucking posts has stutters posted since then? At least double from when that was posted lazer. lets look at it. First point, isnt doubting marvs claiming meaning he thinks that marv might be scum? thats a stance. second point. thats a non-issue. third point: again, I dont see that being alignment indicative. Im sick and tired of people posting old posts about someone when things have changed. Gumshoe, if Rayn flips town, then I will be sorely disappointed. Ill probably move on to WoS I guess. I dunno, lotta time between now and lynch. Fuba is a lurker lynch, I dont think anything he posted is alignment indicative so far. I like that JJD thinks rayn is scum too, buddying works guys. Seriously, his suspicions on solstice is good I think, its a good point and some of what solstice posted there isnt awesome. Basically, he appears to be thinking like me and for today at least, I dont wanna lynch him. Dont know about GoT, dont care about GoT. So you think Stutters is scum mainly for activity issues. Come on. Thats not a good way to read someone. Think of a better reason or drop your read. ##Unvote ##Vote: JarJarDrinks | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
What makes him different from stutters? Or Vayne? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Stutters has done less scummy things than Jarjar. Veyne I'm still having as a scum read. I could probably vote Vayne as well but there is no point in me voting him if there is noone else on. JJD looks worse because? What makes him different from stutters? Or Vayne? What is your take on Vayne yo? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote: JJD looks worse because? What makes him different from stutters? Or Vayne? A) buddying B) Not throwing around concrete threats but definitely alot of shiit. C) Severely flip floppy. D) doesn't contribute anything really. E) recycles others opinions. F) Attacks people who are actively contributing, thereby attacking discussion itself. All this in just three posts, it's remarkable really. How can you defend this guy just because he agrees with you? In fact if I was you(and was actually town) I would revaluate my opinion on Rayne just because THIS guy supports it. I'll look at Vayne next, but I'm pretty set on Jar Jar seeing as hes far far worst than Stutters whose principal offence in my eyes was just timing based / : | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:16 gumshoe wrote: I'll sheep this guy I think. He seems resonable. A) buddying B) Not throwing around concrete threats but definitely alot of shiit. C) Severely flip floppy. D) doesn't contribute anything really. E) recycles others opinions. F) Attacks people who are actively contributing, thereby attacking discussion itself. All this in just three posts, it's remarkable really. How can you defend this guy just because he agrees with you? In fact if I was you(and was actually town) I would revaluate my opinion on Rayne just because THIS guy supports it. I'll look at Vayne next, but I'm pretty set on Jar Jar seeing as hes far far worst than Stutters whose principal offence in my eyes was just timing based / : | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:16 gumshoe wrote: A) buddying B) Not throwing around concrete threats but definitely alot of shiit. C) Severely flip floppy. D) doesn't contribute anything really. E) recycles others opinions. F) Attacks people who are actively contributing, thereby attacking discussion itself. All this in just three posts, it's remarkable really. How can you defend this guy just because he agrees with you? In fact if I was you(and was actually town) I would revaluate my opinion on Rayne just because THIS guy supports it. I'll look at Vayne next, but I'm pretty set on Jar Jar seeing as hes far far worst than Stutters whose principal offence in my eyes was just timing based / : 1. Agreeing with people isnt buddying. 2. He basically said rayn is scum and stutters is town through his posts although he didnt use those words. 3. Where? 4. He made a case on solstice that none of you bothered to say why its bad. 5. Or agrees with people 6. So Im scum for attacking rayn? Scum used the same argument, 'stopping town discussion', on me before. Its not true. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
I'm not sure about your theory of oats and JJD off of them showing up around the same time but that can be addressed later after we see his flip. If I were scum and not going all in on a LYLO I'd probably avoid a situation like that. I can also understand the inverse though, so I'd consider that null. I had forgotten about JJD though, which is something that happened frequently when I first saw his scum play. He played the lurker card to a tee. I'd definitely lynch him d1 over Rayn right now. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On June 30 2013 14:13 s0Lstice wrote: Sure. I think the reach on stutters has been discussed enough so I'll wont spend too much more time on that. But I'll say that you called it the scummiest post in the thread and I don't see how it was even a little scummy. Yea, or I'm town and am attacking stuff that looks scummy. Let's hear your explanation on how I'm 'reaching.' You go after Lazer simply because he he spent time talking about marvs miller claim. How is that at all scummy? That's what the main subject of the thread was. He wasn't the only one talking about it. You say that there was plenty of other stuff to talk about. But there really wasn't @ that point. The miller stuff was pretty much all that was discussed yet. You accuse Vivax of "Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here". He was just noting that marv hadn't posted anything since his original claim post. None of these things you mentioned seemed very scummy to me. | ||
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I am the wild card. My post was just saying I dont think your town just because you back Marv, though you were presenting it as if your doing him the favour. I was actually the first person to accuse you of anything (past stutters) though I dont think you'd make a good day one lynch. I'd be willing to lynch Stutters Oats or Jar Jar, thats what my posting boils down to, sorry for all the extra fat.
