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This is why I thought he was town.
The miller stuff is eh (a lot more damming now with Vivax's post however). Like it isn't an unreasonable assumption and his reaction to my "scummiest post in the thread" was almost exactly how I'd react. I'd expect scum to be much more concerned with justifying their stance immediately rather than just laugh it off and not elaborate until pressure is on them. I reacted almost identically to an accusation from vivax in roulette that I felt was ridiculous.
In addition to that, he's one of the most active players.
I can pull specifics if you want but that's the rundown.
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On July 01 2013 02:46 Stutters695 wrote:
This is why I thought he was town.
The miller stuff is eh (a lot more damming now with Vivax's post however). Like it isn't an unreasonable assumption and his reaction to my "scummiest post in the thread" was almost exactly how I'd react. I'd expect scum to be much more concerned with justifying their stance immediately rather than just laugh it off and not elaborate until pressure is on them. I reacted almost identically to an accusation from vivax in roulette that I felt was ridiculous.
In addition to that, he's one of the most active players.
I can pull specifics if you want but that's the rundown.
watching MLG.
Its reasonable that a town player does not question a miller claim at all? Not 1 bit? Since when?
Also, he didnt even explain anything about his 180 on you, he was so confident last night, now its like "I dont know what his alignment is" and he never mentions your 'scummiest' post. I feel like its scum trying to get people to forget about his read and slowly changing you to a town read. I think town would talk about it, I mean why not? But scum just wants to not draw attention to it.
Come on Stutters.
Come on.
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You're misunderstanding. I'm leaning scum on him now, that was explaining why I thought he was town when I woke up this morning and did a quick skim.
Although I do think accepting a miller claim isn't unreasonable. It essentially is just having someone say "hey, don't check me because you'll waste your power (pre-parity announcement) and cause a mislynch."
It doesn't in any way confirm Marv, but ensures he is judged on the basis of his actual play. That he's so sure Marv is town is worrisome but I can see where he is coming from to a certain extent. I also don't like how many people are slipping by saying absolutely nothing. Even if we lynch him we should hear his reads and force these hardcore lurkers to post something.
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I guess part of it is how easy this has been that's concerning me. Scum could be sitting idly by arguing between us but when everyone active is on Rayn we'll get nothing going forward, we should at least look into a couple other people.
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Oats, i made a same mistake you are doing here tunneling me. I looked Stutters' post only from scum perspective and i have now second thoughts about it because of what you said.
I think WoS is scum for what i have said. After that he has only posted some wishyt-washy things about me and Vayne. He says "Oats might be right" but then again "rayn gets a slight town read from what he did". He is avoiding to take sides in the argument. Look at his posts about Vayne; Big walls of text that basically says "i don't know what to make out of it". He does not want to vote for Stutters because "the wagon formed so quickly it bothers him" when there is no wagon but then he actually votes for Stutters??? Also the post is more like "i'll park my vote here" rather than "i think Stutters is mafia". Like: "Until the rest of the thread shows up or something scummier happens, (or maybe if Stutters explains himself a little/talks some more?)". wtf is this? After his vote he does never question Stutters or try to push the lynch, he is just chatting with Oats without making up his mind about anything in the game. He is not trying find mafia rather than just blending in.
I'll look into other people more tonight. I think marv, Vivax and Oats are town, Stutters' posting style and explanations feel genuine and i'm slightly leaning town on him.
I gotta relook into Lazer, i can't understand Vayne, he'd be a good cop target after copping marv. Nobody else i remember nothing about at this point.
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lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?
I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.
Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.
Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer.
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The more I read, the more I am convinced that Rayn is town. This miller stuff doesn't add up. It's the worst fucking scum play ever if he actually is scum. And no, I'm not talking about him being too scum to be scum. Its about the fact that he took a really hard fight in a really unnecesary way. The post Vivax posted is just dumb, its not the same situation and really shows nothing. If anything I'd say it makes him look more town, as scum he would probably be more concerned with making himself look like his town "meta".
More stuff: He is active
He hunts scum
He calls me town ^^
A player that interests me at the moment is Oats. For those of you who are very lazy, let me summarize his filter.
Rayn is scum
Rayn is scum
Rayn is scum
Stutters is null
Rayn is scum
Rayn is scum
Rayn is scum
Lazermonkey scum cuz ???
Rayn is scum
Vivax town cuz we tunnel the same person
Rayn is scum
(I'm not even kidding Lol, his tunnel really is this bad)
He is avoiding all other topics like a boss. While it isn't per say bad that you attack players you think is scum, this shouldn't come at the cost of commenting on everyone else. A really easy way to play scum is just to non stop attack someone, this way you appear to be contributing when you are in fact not. As for Oats, I'm still bit inconclusive atm but he is giving bad vibes and I'm leaning scum.
There are more than one scum in this game Oats, feel like trying to find someone else?
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Oats if you by some miracle get me lynched i will laugh at you so hard post game when marv dies N1 and you just lost, not only your whole D1 in analysis and two townies that are amongst the strongest players here.
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On July 01 2013 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, i made a same mistake you are doing here tunneling me. I looked Stutters' post only from scum perspective and i have now second thoughts about it because of what you said.
I think WoS is scum for what i have said. After that he has only posted some wishyt-washy things about me and Vayne. He says "Oats might be right" but then again "rayn gets a slight town read from what he did". He is avoiding to take sides in the argument. Look at his posts about Vayne; Big walls of text that basically says "i don't know what to make out of it". He does not want to vote for Stutters because "the wagon formed so quickly it bothers him" when there is no wagon but then he actually votes for Stutters??? Also the post is more like "i'll park my vote here" rather than "i think Stutters is mafia". Like: "Until the rest of the thread shows up or something scummier happens, (or maybe if Stutters explains himself a little/talks some more?)". wtf is this? After his vote he does never question Stutters or try to push the lynch, he is just chatting with Oats without making up his mind about anything in the game. He is not trying find mafia rather than just blending in.
I'll look into other people more tonight. I think marv, Vivax and Oats are town, Stutters' posting style and explanations feel genuine and i'm slightly leaning town on him.
I gotta relook into Lazer, i can't understand Vayne, he'd be a good cop target after copping marv. Nobody else i remember nothing about at this point.
lol you idiot, I DID vote for Stutters (in thread), and then solstice jumped on the wagon too which made me feel worse about it considering how many people were on so quick and so early. I didn't unvote though (in thread); I had no idea at the time there even was a voting thread so when I realized it, I put my vote down.
And as far as not finding mafia, I have done plenty. If you don't consider what I have done scumhunting then you should consider the same of yourself since most of your filter is defending yourself and discussing miller claims.
Keep grabbin' for those straws though Rayn, one day you might actually reach one.
Peace.
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No Lazer, this is what Oats does as town. He's probably town.
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On July 01 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Lazer, this is what Oats does as town. He's probably town. Tunnel you mean?
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On July 01 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, i made a same mistake you are doing here tunneling me. I looked Stutters' post only from scum perspective and i have now second thoughts about it because of what you said.
I think WoS is scum for what i have said. After that he has only posted some wishyt-washy things about me and Vayne. He says "Oats might be right" but then again "rayn gets a slight town read from what he did". He is avoiding to take sides in the argument. Look at his posts about Vayne; Big walls of text that basically says "i don't know what to make out of it". He does not want to vote for Stutters because "the wagon formed so quickly it bothers him" when there is no wagon but then he actually votes for Stutters??? Also the post is more like "i'll park my vote here" rather than "i think Stutters is mafia". Like: "Until the rest of the thread shows up or something scummier happens, (or maybe if Stutters explains himself a little/talks some more?)". wtf is this? After his vote he does never question Stutters or try to push the lynch, he is just chatting with Oats without making up his mind about anything in the game. He is not trying find mafia rather than just blending in.
I'll look into other people more tonight. I think marv, Vivax and Oats are town, Stutters' posting style and explanations feel genuine and i'm slightly leaning town on him.
I gotta relook into Lazer, i can't understand Vayne, he'd be a good cop target after copping marv. Nobody else i remember nothing about at this point. lol you idiot, I DID vote for Stutters (in thread), and then solstice jumped on the wagon too which made me feel worse about it considering how many people were on so quick and so early. I didn't unvote though (in thread); I had no idea at the time there even was a voting thread so when I realized it, I put my vote down. And as far as not finding mafia, I have done plenty. If you don't consider what I have done scumhunting then you should consider the same of yourself since most of your filter is defending yourself and discussing miller claims. Keep grabbin' for those straws though Rayn, one day you might actually reach one. Peace.
Why are you so angry?
Where have you tried to find mafia?
I don't need to convince you that you are scum, i need to convince the townies.
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On July 01 2013 04:03 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Lazer, this is what Oats does as town. He's probably town. Tunnel you mean?
Exactly
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On July 01 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats if you by some miracle get me lynched i will laugh at you so hard post game when marv dies N1 and you just lost, not only your whole D1 in analysis and two townies that are amongst the strongest players here.
laugh at me after town wins, sure 
Marv is useless when he doesnt post.
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What topics Lazer?
I think you are scum because there is no doubt in your mind that marv is town.
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WoS, why is your vote on stutters if you dont think hes scum? Do you have any reason to think hes scum?
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I agree that marv is useless, but he said he's gonna be inactive for the weekend.
Oats could you look at WoS and tell me what do you think?
I'll do the same for Lazer.
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On July 01 2013 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
What topics Lazer?
I think you are scum because there is no doubt in your mind that marv is town.
Lol
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Seriously? Are you kidding me? or what? Lol? I didn't say marv was confirmed town, did I? I was the guy who stayed up all night to argue with Rayn why Marv WASN'T confirmed mafia.
You may discuss anything you like except for Rayn. The discussion isn't very productive atm I'd say. You have made you opinion very very very clear. So has Rayn. If you really think he is scum there really is no reason for you to keep on arguing with him, is it? you don't need to convince him of being scum himself... With that said, I'd love you to give your opinions on Vayle and Stutters!
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@WoS Je m'en fous
This is how I always play. My day 1 reads are notoriously bad. I find generating discussion to be a much better use of my time.
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