Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 13

On July 01 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm also eager to hear why/how Vivax did a sudden 180.. no, more like a 540 on about everything last night. And why is noone interested in that?

On June 30 2013 07:29 Vivax wrote:
Rayn pretty much townie too.

Stutters's post that looks bad could be the "know something we don't?" thing. How is scum supposed to know anything about the amount of millers in the game? They can't roll them lol.

I don't see why WoS should be scum for writing in French though.

On June 30 2013 07:38 Vivax wrote:
Addendum to the stutters thing: Looks like a loaded question scum likes to ask earlygame. I don't really see how one would suspect Rayn to be scum for having "extra info" about miller when scum doesn't get any extra info in that regard either. Doesn't seem like the approach a townie would take in that case even if he genuinely believed that.

Ecco un voto per esprimere la mia discordanza e il mio sospetto


##Vote stutters

On June 30 2013 19:43 Vivax wrote:


His efforts and perseverance in contributing looks townie. But his trust into marv's claim is suspicious, even when he is presented with evidence of marv fakeclaiming miller in another game.

He tries to rationalize his trust in this post:



Now, it looks like a shitty explanation.
Rayn writes lengthy stuff about marv claiming before parity cop is revealed, but it doesn't tell anything about marv, except that he was expecting normal cops.

Since this is Rayn rationalizing his townread, and mentioning this stuff about miller and cop has no effect on that townread and should rather weaken it, cause Rayn himself mentions that millers are helpful with parity cops and marv would rather not fakeclaim with parity cops present, this explanation looks forced and not very genuine.

Like, the bolded part is literally the whole explanation Rayn offers for marv not being scum. "Because there is no need to".
In what scenarios? Scenarios with parity cop and scenario with no cop. Well, he said himself marv claimed before parity cop announcement, and marv can't know if there's a cop.

Upon analyzing this post I have this Deutsch feeling about rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote Rayn

That. Why the sudden change of mind from going me = town -> me = scum with no new posts from me, and before that you seemed to understand me. You just "reviewed" the situation. Why did you not look at it closely in the first place?

On July 01 2013 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Again, what there is for me to gain as mafia to give marv an insta-town read?
I happen to know, and knew from the beginning, there would be people who disagree with me. What do i gain by doing so? Because it does not mean shit that i might look town in marv's eyes, there are many other people whose votes count just as much as his.

I have a strong town read on marv, i was hoping someone would be stupid enough to fakeclaim miller, and added some fuel into fire by saying "there are no 2 millers", because i know that's possible, but highly unlike. If scum had claimed miller i would have laughed and then we would go to the "claim your role name phase".

Fakeclaiming miller does mean unnecessary attention to yourself, in a situation where the attention is not needed. Marv has done it before, yes, and looking into that game it was a big mistake. Scum lost and it did not definitely help him/them. I think he has learned from that and would not do so again.

I'm not the right person to answer about marv's thought process but that's how i see the situation.

Marv has done it before, yes, and looking into that game it was a big mistake.

On July 01 2013 01:29 Vivax wrote:


Coz I was drunk and tired lol.

I reread the thread and saw things in a new light while I was analyzing your post after Oats asked me to take a look at you.

Are people scum for changing their mind? Even when they go in depth about their reasons?
Is anyone who misses something at first and then changes his view -on his own- scum?

Looks pretty much like you're just grasping at straws.