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On July 07 2013 07:23 geript wrote: In Hydra 2 nukes could be pm'd to the host to be sent without having been posted in the thread. Had scum noticed they would've nuked Fivetouch when Palmar/DP fake nuked them. I didn't see anything requiring nukes be posted in the thread in the OP so there's no reason to fake nuke as it can really fuck up town if a hidden nuke is launched off of a fake nuke. This really makes since to me, until we know for sure we shouldnt launch fake nukes. | ||
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On July 07 2013 07:45 gumshoe wrote: That was the worst I've ever played in any game ever period regardless of the medium. I've had five second pacman wipes and six pool vs cc first loses (dont ask me how) that were more impressive than my play in GOT mafia. My play was so low that Gravity will compel me upwards from it. All you know of me are my darkest hours, Xata. Good luck recognizing my scum play on that basis. So you are saying we should base your scum play off this game? | ||
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On July 07 2013 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos: There is a significant difference how people act as scum or as town. I say X is town. Town players usually ask me to provide some evidence on that, and base their read on me based on that evidence. Scum say "you are scum, you can't have a townread on him based on anything". geript is scum for that, are you? Wait what? This is only my third game but I thought the request was reasonable. And I would like to know why you are fighting giving reasons for makeing a town read so hard. I want reasons so I can compare my thoughts and give feedback just because you have a town read doesnt mean I do and your reasons my make me look at him in a different light. | ||
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On July 07 2013 08:05 geript wrote: I'm on a time crunch before I have to work tonight and wanted to get past the jovial joking trolling foreplay phase of mafia and skip straight to the scumhunting/scumfucking part of it. So write more clearly. You have a supertown read on a person who I consider to be completely null. I want you to explain that shit so that I can either A understand the read or B call you scum for having a town read on a completely null player. Capice. Going back his first post is explain, then his second is why he wants the read. Sure he does put some soft scum reads in there, but I think the requests are clear and reasonable. | ||
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On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote: could you please stop shitting up this thread? And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet. Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game? | ||
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On July 07 2013 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote: I've already stated this, but he did it in mafia LX as mafia dayvig and he was scum. Now, it's entirely possible that (as stated earlier by somebody) Chez was faking it and scum used it as cover to nuke Xat themselves. I'm willing to bet there was no need for Chez to actually type it in thread if it was his. Either way if people CAN stop this I'm not entirely sure it should be. Also hai guise I back. Did I miss anything important other than what is likely a whole bunch of town players all shitting on each other? What made you get off of chez and on to johnny? So far chez has refused to answer all relevant questions, only saying he did in fact launch his nuke but not why or what type of nuke. Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet. If chez launched a positive/non lethal nuke why not claim it? | ||
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On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote: Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play). They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it? | ||
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On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now. As for Onegu: I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit. Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why? No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p. | ||
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On July 08 2013 01:28 Xatalos wrote: Buff nuke? Are there such nukes? Well, anything is possible I guess. Do you honestly believe we're both scum and he's just trying to buff me like this though? If not, why speculate about it? There are many more useful topics out there right now, after all. Why not speculate it is something to think about. | ||
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On July 08 2013 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote: What if he is mafia or 3p with a 'buff' ability like you said? Would you be worried about that? What kind of nukes do you think are possible in a game like this and what kind of other abilities? Ok first if he is maf I doubt he has a nuke to buff, he may have a type of nuke that xata is immune to though. I think radiation will be a factor in this game either positive or negitive. And people will have abilities based on this side effect. | ||
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On July 08 2013 03:30 WaveofShadow wrote: I think the biggest topics of the day have been Chezinu, me, Xalatos, Johnnywups....anyone else? Maybe Geript and Rayn as well? Me too | ||
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The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame. The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either. ##VOTE: Chezinu | ||
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On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote: There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier: Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother. ##vote Onegu Really, I dont know what chezinu even acts like as this is my first game with him and since he was dodgeing questions it is legit to vote him | ||
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On July 08 2013 07:35 MajuGarzett wrote: Ok, just caught up, sorry for being inactive One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much. That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts. I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts. I agree with the suspicion about Onegu. Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon. And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff ##Vote: Onegu Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone. Meaning if he answed the questions I will unvote him. ##:UNVOTE | ||
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I really dont like this post. Have you launched your nuke yet? Just seems like a good excuse to nuke someone. | ||
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On July 08 2013 11:41 Chezinu wrote: Let's say you had a nuke coming at you. What would you do in order to survive? This is his reason for launching at xata I think, I think he means xata launched at him so he launched back. If I didn't pass the potato.. my hands would have burned. And here is the reason he launched. | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:06 Alakaslam wrote: Where are you caucaisianasian? It's midnight and I don't got all night. Like what WoS has been doing. Town. SHOW ME YOUR ENE- oh wait, У меня нет никакой власти... ![]() I did tryhard at referencing the greats last game. That is a part of me, so: Chezinu is reminding me of Drazerk in Aperture. I remember thinking his lynch that game was really disappointing. I am thinking best lynch Ghost403. So I will vote him. YOUR THOUGHTS? Pressure the lurker folks. Wait so you are just going to put your vote down on someone lurking for a policy lynch? You give no reason for doing so you just fish for thoughts on it. Here is my thought you just voted random one of the lurkers for absolutly no reason. Why him and not dandol or anyone else for that reason? | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:30 Alakaslam wrote: Proof of the latter. Enjoy The OMGIS manifesto And slightly proud of it! :D dat's how bad. ...... I should get better in time. Except you started to play better after day one, this is like you are playing completely different, I know I shouldnt use meta but something is different here and I am trying to get a feel for what it is. Do you have a nuke? | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:50 CaucasianAsian wrote: Previous + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 14:59 CaucasianAsian wrote: i have to go eat. will continue later today Dandel Ion + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Dandel Ion On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on. So he posts a bunch of filler, and then states that he won’t be beneficial at all to town. Fair enough, so point blank, he has posted a refusal to not help town. ghost_403 + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=ghost_403 Lurker, very few posts. Not beneficial Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + All his limited posts are pretty much filler, doing nothing beneficial to town. Stutters695 + Show Spoiler + Filler, not being beneficial Z-BosoN + Show Spoiler + Pretty boring, not beneficial as of yet Abenson + Show Spoiler + He claims to have unvoted for Johnny here: On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote: Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away. Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke Yet, he never even voted, as can see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Abenson Beyond that confusing post, not beneficial Meapak_Ziphh + Show Spoiler + Unfortunately he is being nuked by someone who didn’t claim it. As Xatalos stated here: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 20:00 Xatalos wrote: Looks like I'm still alive. Although after re-reading the rules, it's not that surprising: So: 1) apparently every nuke will hit at the deadline, not before or after that time 2) there are different types of nukes I can say that I'm immune to one type of nuke, but clearly I'm still in danger of death, since I don't know which type of nuke Chezinu launched at me. Ultimately it will be resolved at the deadline. If someone wants to use an anti-nuke or something, feel free to do so, although I can't be certain if it's necessary or not. Chezinu, if you are town, I'd like to hear your reasoning for launching a nuke at me and the type of that nuke. This at least proves that nukes don't necessarily have to be claimed. Dunno if Chezinu's nuke required claiming, but there's at least a strong possibility that he claimed it without needing to. That makes him look more townish IMO - why claim if my town flip would just put him in a tough spot as scum? On the other hand, nobody claiming this nuke aimed at Meapak makes it likely a scum nuke... And Meapak town based on that. Is that an actual read? If so, why? There is no reason for a townie to randomly nuke someone so early on with very little reads. This makes me assume that he is town, and it is probably a scum nuke. Unfortunately we won’t be able to see him for much longer. Ace + Show Spoiler + The first person to actually be posting so far down this list (with the exception of Meapak who is unfortunately being nuked). To say that he is mafia or town is hard at the moment. After all, it’s still Day 1, and there is very little information to go off of. Although as everyone seems to be on the right page, people not talking are simply bad for town, and it’s good that he is saying something, town or mafia, as if he’s town we will be able to understand that through his future posts / voting / nuking (?) and if he is mafia, we will be able to see flaws in his logic and patterns through posts / voting / nuking (?) Continuing MajuGarzett + Show Spoiler + Doesn’t post much, but from the few posts he has made, seems to be doing some actual analysis. Although he is inactive, he currently doesn’t seem as scummy or bad townie as other inactives. Should be looked at closely, and made sure that he continues to post again, but I’m not too worried about him yet Johnnywup + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote: I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote: Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go. ##nuke TanGeng I will not be able to change this. Additionally, I am going to vote for Dandel Ion for now. Of the inactives, he seems most likely scum. I can change this in the morning if I feel like it, and I don't think a chez lynch is the best idea right now, and he seems to be gaining the most traction. I don't support that. So I'm voting for a new candidate which I think most people can agree on lynching on if it comes to it. He never posted before that he needs to nuke in order to survive. If that were the case, I am starting to understand why he is bad for the town. Not only is his basis to target TanGeng absolutely absurd, when there are many other inactives (I myself was very inactive) who fit into the same line. Also, I cannot assume that a town role forces you to nuke someone. If he is forced to nuke someone every day, and he is not lying, then that’s simply bad for town. It’s very risky. Also, he votes for WaveofShadow, and Dandel Ion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420340&user=johnnywup His basis is that Dandel Ion is scummier than WaveOfShadow. Onegu + Show Spoiler + So right off the bat, before I even start to say anything. I want to note that MajuGarzett votes for him. As I stated earlier, I don’t feel as if MajuGarzett is very scummy yet. Overall, even though I’m not a big fan of Onegu, he hasn’t done anything way out of the ordinary that would quantify him as being mafia, or town yet. I feel very neutral on him. He continues to say that I’m a scummy lurker. I can understand why people would assume I’m a lurker. I’ll defend this once I get to me on the list. But honestly, he seems to be proactive. I don’t see any hardcore basis behind lynching him yet, unless I want to go about a pride thing. But he gives me a more townie feel to be honest. VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler + I have a similar feeling to VayneAuthority as I do to Onegu. Even though he has less filler posts, he seems to be doing decent analysis. Despite the whole thing of me being drunk and thus that’s a sign of mafia, he’s not looking to be pro-scum from my point of view thus far. He does seem to be lynch happy, but ok. There are people much higher up on my radar currently. strongandbig + Show Spoiler + Very inactive, and blames 2 people that they look scummy. He is really sitting in the corner, showing he is watching the thread (with his 2 random suspicion posts) and not being beneficial to town at all. gunshoe + Show Spoiler + Almost every single one of his posts are filled with fluff. Not being productive at all. Will continue later, need to study for class. First are you sure you were looking at my filter because I never mention you let alone say you are a scummy lurker. I agree with your thoughts on Johnny though, it just seemed convienent that he only posts he has to fire a nuke after chez says he had to fire his. Just seems like a easy way to fire his at someone on geripts list, especially if he has multiple nukes. Also he never says why dandol is scummier just odd. | ||
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He was fake nuked by xata, he says that is why he fired back in his own roundabout way. | ||
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It lets you nightkill. | ||
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Radiation is a mechanic that comes from radiation nukes. It infects people and kills them the next turn. The second part however doesn't happen to you. | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:55 Xatalos wrote: Do you know if there are other types of nukes or just Radiation nukes? I only know of radiation nukes. | ||
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On July 09 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, after reading the last page i dunno. Maybe it's better that the nuke on Xatalos lands. If he does not die, gratz, we got a vigi. If he does die, Chezinu looks terrible. Xatalos can't be mafia working with Chez like this, there's no way he would have claimed that as mafia. I suggest we lynch NG. Anyone in? Because if Chezinu's nuke is some type that "helps" people, as there apparently are people who gain something from nukes, it makes sense to shoot it towards a townie. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Nirvana.Gabo Here's the case: Xata is 100% town, but chez shouldnt get off yet because he couldnt know of xata role, and we arent sure if he launched a helpful nuke or not as that is the one question he hasnt answered. My other point on him is he launched the first actual nuke, but when he did it he couldnt have known the others were fake, that is why I took my vote off of him. | ||
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On July 09 2013 01:26 Z-BosoN wrote: I won't dig too much into meapak right now, his filter seems ok. One thing that is bothering me a LOT is Alakaslams posting. He pummels me asking for more quality from a few posts of mine yesterday, is pretty oppressive on my "17%" joke, complaining that most of the thread is fluff: Yet his own posting quality is very fluffy. He isn't trying to steer discussion anywhere that is useful. Anyone familiar with his playstyle feels like commenting? This is only his second game, I have already said this but it feels different then his last game though. | ||
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On July 08 2013 07:56 Alakaslam wrote: Hey Mepak. I am back, I promise not to martyr again if I can help it. I am prone to martyr after last (and only) game. But fair enough and don't forget to watch me, I understand the need for town cred. Onegu, yes you make a good point. But meta is meta, last game I was an ill- playing blue role, here I am just vanilla, with the added benefit of a little experience. So less worried about getting Lynched, and remembering the words of Hapa. So I retract my old statements on WoS, I rebuild the alliance, but note that I still ally with Ace. Reason being is I believe ace to be helping town in a genuine way, rather than in the ways I can see scum doing, and he is still doing better than WoS. Disclaimer, however: I suspect ace is capable of anything, and besides I should be taken with a grain of salt, considering how little I know I this game. That being said, as Onegu points out I have no excuse to lurk and yet posting unsubstantial fluff is something I have found to be nigh useless, if not detrimental to my fellow town. Geript, my ally: what thinks ye of Ace? You know far more about this great one than I. + Show Spoiler + Я знаю, что смешнее, когда я теряю голову, но я оставлю это на новых игроков, как игра была сделана пылающей рукой. Так что я буду стараться быть спокойнее, и более полезными должна я в последний раз. I dont think there are vanilla roles I think he is lying here, again I am sorry I am on a tab here so I will have multiple posts in a row. | ||
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On July 08 2013 17:54 Alakaslam wrote: Oh and yes and suits me. If anyone else has a bone to pick they can have at it. Really fast to get off the boat here, why so fast this answer isnt that great. | ||
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Fast sheep of an unvote. I do not see any benefit to town for me to explain that. In the further interest of town, I refuse.I do not see my own survival a more important than doing all I can to benefit town. I will not vote OriginalName, and will vote Vayne. I am sorry, and I'm pretty sure ON will be lynched anyway.Scum are not the only informed folk, and I am not informed, and I'm not making sense so that is all I will say. I really dont like this explaining yourself is always good for town, I think he was trying to gain town cred by not voteing ON, but by not explaing himself makes him look really bad. | ||
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On July 09 2013 13:46 Alakaslam wrote: Was starting to throw this together + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: WaveofShadow: Answer me this. I launched a nuke on Meapak. You were scummy as hell, came back in thread and implied you have a desire to use your power. Then you redirected the nuke from Meapak to NG. Now if you and Meapak are both scum and i am town, how does this not make sense from my point of view to call you both mafia? Desires to paint Mepak and WoS as mafia On July 09 2013 09:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Wait rayn, after you nuked me you called me town. Also you called me town all the up until now when you started disliking WoS's retarget. Take your tinfoil hat off, you're making me wish I had died. Doesn't make sense bruh Also fuck you guys for not lynching dandel, he came back and did literally nothing and then peaced the fuck out. Absolutely disgraceful. At some point tonight I'm gonna do another big reads list because I fully expect to die tonight despite all the claimed blues -_- Mepak calls bs Which is 1000x harder on iPhone. Then I realized: EVERYONE, PLEASE JUST READ PAGES 72-77. It really needs the context. How on earth is rayn not at the very least confirmed lying? What is his motive for all that? Why dont you say what you want us to see, really bad to just say go look. Ok. He was the host of my other game, where I was completely different.I don't see a scum read on me from anyone who hosted in that game (or even played in it) as at all implausible. I am so different I know it. I have gone from (to use jungle book analogies) Disney Baloo to Rudyard Kipling Kaa in the space of two games.(In reality though that is just comparative. I am very like ohai i am nwe heer plz help me btw blazinghand cooler than cool hehehe Both games. Just this one I see most of TL mafia is pretty cool at it <3<3<3 as everyone from FirmTofu to Ace has managed to impress me at some point.) Geript's answer strikes me as smarter than mine would have been. I would have labelled myself yet scummier, as it means I am consciously being different.I would still have said this. The coaching I (unconsciously) ignored last time? Calm down, be honest. That's all, and it probably would have prevented Lylo if I had followed that advice better (I thought I was, somehow). Alakaslam are you trying to play different by makeing zero reads, sheeping answers, and posting fluff? Please its not like that. | ||
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On July 09 2013 22:18 VayneAuthority wrote: We should probably give this rayn thing a rest for a bit as its killing discussion before the night post. People that have a chance to die should really throw out some reads/cases before they are gone. I really need people's opinions on these three men, as I think they are all scum. gumshoe, ghost, onegu They don't have time to post anything meaningful in the thread but are able to show up last second and ninjavote for ON? Especially gumshoe who I know is much more capable than this. I am sorry for this the deadline is 5am for me normally I am up until 2am ish, I fell asleep early and woke up a half hour before the deadline i tried to speed read but was still tired and since I know Xata is 100% town I sheeped him. | ||
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On July 10 2013 01:13 Alakaslam wrote: Signifying I am caught up. So Vayne, I can actually be of assistance to you ![]() Onegu has begun to relive our prior game. He plays a pretty good scum game (especially from my perspective), by attacking town mistakes. This is usually good because it scores you town cred while painting your target which takes attention off yourself. It would not have caught my eye as much if he hadn't started after some stronger players said (too happy-go-lucky, response to rayn's gig[????]) pretty much town. I usually assume I will look scummy because there is no usually yet and last game I was lynched as town. So I would actually expect what is coming from him. Onegu just had bad timing this time ![]() On a further note, yeah there are a lot of blues. There are also a lot of players. It isn't impossible that there are vanillas, who amuse the pre lynch time with speaking Russian, and then going story boarding when that derails. I know most posters have soft claimed but cauc hasn't yet, neither have a lot of people. But even if I was blue, I am not going to paint a target on my back for mafia. So the deal about vanilla claiming doesn't say scum even if it is a lie. Oh, uh, hehehenothingpersonalkthanksbye + Show Spoiler + Russian<That fool doesn't represent. At least he is a self-admitted fool, but a fool nonetheless.> Hey! + Show Spoiler + shut up. Russian<caught a spy today. I am disappointed you didn't enjoy my gift, Mepak_Ziph, but perhaps that was to be expected. I assure you, it was well meant. Let this suffice, I am in a distant land and my home is a smoking pile of ash. It will take time for me to build enough resources to afford luxury items again. However, though the idiot hasn't allied with you yet, I assure you my feelings toward you are as warm as those I have for Chezinu Isunizehc. Uh... Allied with M_Z..... You dont actually defend yourself you just try to flip it back on me only useing meta. Butthis game is you arent scumhunting, you arent doing anything. You refuse to vote ON but wont give a reason to do so, you are just trying to get town cred. | ||
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On July 11 2013 15:19 Alakaslam wrote: Why is this role any more likely town than scum? But yes I know, that is why I allied with him, it is just 1step short of a townread for me. Don't ask why I am not allied with you yet... Because town most likely dont have radiation nukes. | ||
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On July 11 2013 15:32 Alakaslam wrote: Adding voice to say prefer VA. RIBL (in is more grammatical than on) tunnel much Onegu? Look at the time stamps for my claims. I can't write that fast, that was copypastecopypaste. I believe your factory was blown up and I believe you could make nukes, doesnt take much to change the color. I just dont like your play compared to last game where you scum hunted. And your refusal to give a reason for the vayne vote. | ||
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On July 11 2013 16:57 Xatalos wrote: Oh well, this explains some things. I buy this claim atm since your earlier posts indeed are consistent with the claim. Scumhunt and be more active from now on as well though. (Can you be infected without a radiation nuke? Didn't know that. If it's possible to be infected in the beginning, I should have visited someone as well.) Also Alakaslam's claim feels genuine (considering all the breadcrumbing and stuff). Just says we wont know when we are infected so I kinda figured the nukes would be silent, so I gave it a shot, you should def visit someone tonight though. I am eating lunch then will read the entire thread again and be more active. | ||
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On July 11 2013 17:12 FirmTofu wrote: I think you will be notified, but you might want to ask the host to make sure. I'm thinking you two should be visiting each other until you get the notification(assuming Artanis confirms). No it straight up says we wont be informed if we are infected. | ||
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@ xata I asked Will we know when a nuke lands or only when launched? Closed setup, you'll have to find out. This is what led me to belive they could be silent. | ||
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On July 12 2013 02:18 strongandbig wrote: four, at least also im voting va ##vote: vayneauthority i think hes had a bunch of scummy behaviors so id rather lynch him. Did you just claim? Oh and I am re reading the thread now on page 81, but also checking in to refresh the page and see new content. | ||
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On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote: Onegu why would you visit him? I thought he was scum based on his voteing pattern and how he played the game targeting people who I thought were town. | ||
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On July 13 2013 10:08 Ace wrote: noted Wos. If you think geript is scum with maju, chances of austin being there too? read his last post. also no one has claimed to have a nuke today. maybe anonymous nuker will act at some point. Acually someone did claim to have a nuke today. | ||
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On July 13 2013 11:40 Alakaslam wrote: Sigh. Well I think the next course of action is in the voting thread. хорошо играл товарищ! в следующий раз, послать кого-нибудь, как волна тени или "Onegu» или себя, кто-то, как "Xata", который так город, они, вероятно, умрут опасна ... Nonetheless wise in the moment, but this is why I had picked ace at first. I figured he had suspicion so would last the night unmolested. I thought we were going to stop writeing in russian, I am to lazy to translate even though I see my name. @stutters why didnt you make a different type of nuke. Most people had xata as town and with his claim a radiation nuke would have been much better, are you just lazy? | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:18 CaucasianAsian wrote: good morning, and i'm confused... this wasn't launched was it? just blew up? what? He is a cohost. | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:25 Stutters695 wrote: Reading comprehension bro. I couldn't make real nukes. Promising someone everyone think thinks is town a buff doesn't have the same potential for generating discussion as a nuke that ace thought was lethal to his target. Sorry somehow missed the second claim... Could you not give someone D1, or just didnt give one out? | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:33 CaucasianAsian wrote: can you explain why you want him lynched ant not nuked? Either way, if he dies, what's the difference? He wants to analyse votes, which doesnt make a whole lot of sense as we can analyse no matter who is lynched. | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:34 geript wrote: This is why I don't want MG nuked. It's a plain waste of a nuke that we could get better analysis from elsewise. But this could be true of any scum. And we would have the same problem. | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:42 geript wrote: Scum KP is almost always based off of the # of living scum. Removing 1 scum for sure is top priority IMO. We can get other scum later or nuke them. Right now we're down 8 town and only 1 scum. Best option is to try and reduce KP to give ourselves more time if it's necessary. I just took my methadone so Im not really following you here. 1 We lynch MZ he is scum and he is bussed, we nuke other and they flip town. We get zero info 2 Same as 1 except our nuke is at scum and is redirected. Depending on who redirected and to who we get zero to little info 3 We nuke MZ and vote someone, nuke lands. Then we can also analyze votes and cases depending on the flip. 4 same as 3 except nuke doesnt land, depending on the timeing of the nuke switch or destruction, we may still have time to lynch him. Am I wrong here? | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote: If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan | ||
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But after his list not much else put me back to scum. | ||
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On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote: This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE ![]() | ||
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On July 14 2013 12:10 geript wrote: Random CA ninja unvote w/o comment... What are you refering to here? | ||
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On July 14 2013 12:14 geript wrote: Look at the vote thread Gotcha is that a scumtell though? | ||
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You thought ace was town, why would you give town a dud? | ||
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On July 14 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Ah I am, that was the one you did at night after nuke deadline. Ok, original question stands. Why are we in trouble/have issues? Because we dont know what to do with MG now, if it is a dud and we dont vote him he lives, If we vote him and it is real we miss out on second flip | ||
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On July 14 2013 13:38 geript wrote: It's simple. We lynch him with fire like I've been saying already. We don't trust Stutters which means the nukes a fake, or we don't trust Ace which means he has ulterior reasons for launching the nuke. Either way Maju needs to die and the surest way of that is lynching him. That gives us zero info though, I think it is better to let the nuke land see if it is real or fake, and vote z-bosan or austin and see the flip, this way way we gain the most info. | ||
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On July 14 2013 13:44 Ace wrote: If the nuke is actually real then Stutters lied. We'll see when it lands. Look back at the explanation I was asking for when I first fired the nuke and he brought up being sabotaged. If we lynch will we see if the nuke hit, which comes first lynch or nuke? | ||
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On July 14 2013 13:55 johnnywup wrote: Oh shit, you're right. Fuck. Okay, in that case it's possible they're both townie but it just seems so likely that they aren't. It's possible though. Okay, going back to the plan I said a couple posts ago then. I've got an idea that we should lynch one that's not Maju/Stutters. If the nuke lands, we have a probably dead scum and another alive confirmed scum. If it doesn't land, we have a semi-confirmed townie and an alive probable scum. I'm not sure if this is better than lynching maju, because he's probably scum, but we'd get no info out of that. Stutters isn't black or white in that case. Anyone's thoughts? Yeah I said that we should lynch z-bosan or austin, possible s&b | ||
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I thought D2, and no one d1 | ||
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On July 14 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote: The correct play is to consult the hosts but since its a strictly closed setup the second best action is probably to leave it untouched right now and see what Maju flips or if he even flips at all. It should be something we talk about tomorrow not today So you want to lynch MG and not see if the nuke hits? | ||
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No I am town IO | ||
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No it should be austin or z-bosan, the whole point of letting the nuke fall is to see if stutters is lieing. | ||
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On July 14 2013 17:12 MajuGarzett wrote: Once again I have to reiterate I am definitely not the best choice to lynch. This would be true even if there wasn't a chance I would die from a nuke. That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript Wierd vote choice here, geript isnt getting lynched. I dont like what geript did and some of his positions but I dont see scum makeing big waves like that. This just makes me think you dont want to bus you scum buddy austin. | ||
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On July 14 2013 17:01 Alakaslam wrote: Dude. I'm Like always on top here. Y Thats what she said. Sorry couldnt help myself. Alakaslam can you do some scumhunting please? I think you could be the fifth scum I dont like your lie, I dont like your votes, and I dont like your lack of doing anything. It is possible you are 3p survivor. As your actions make you unlikely to be lynched or NK. | ||
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On July 14 2013 21:54 Chezinu wrote: I don't get the whole baby thing... that sounds creepy and crazy.. let me try and understand. Town will lose their shit aka brown, they will lose their baby = something very special, and bathwater which may or my not be brown depending on the time period of the bath taking. Scum tosses baby, once again very creepy. something precious... could it be nukes or votes? Exceptionally odd encryption indeed. What type of poetry is this? Now this, "A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel." makes some sense. Thank you for being the first person to answer my question that I asked twice. This | ||
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Anyone not agree on z-bosan, he waffles so much haveing scum reads or votes on half the people in this game. | ||
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On July 14 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote: There are too many targets... Sentinel can you make a good case on somebody? You are like the only confirmed town atm. How is he confimed town he hasnt done much at all and it is possible his nuke was a bus nuke on dandel/xigzag. @Sentinel how did you get a nuke and do you have more? | ||
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On July 14 2013 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier. arent we past the 12hr now? | ||
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On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote: Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me? At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info. | ||
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On July 14 2013 23:34 austinmcc wrote: Yes, it is possible. However, in that case, you need to account for the lack of silent nuke today. In the world where I am scum and stutters is town, you need to believe his claim, think I'm a scum war protestor, AND think that the silent nuke is being held...solely to get a lynch on stutters? You are trying to read into a closed set up, maybe a total of 2 scum got 1 silent nuke each, or 1 scum got only 2 silent nukes. Or its 3p lauching silent nukes there is no way to know. | ||
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Are ninja votes a scumtell? I really prefer a austin lynch, with everything xata posted, plus I dont like his claim or his defense as there is no way we can or should read things into a closed setup. Unless someone claims to have shutdown a nuke maker, he should be the target since I cant get anyone on z-bosan. Vote: Austin | ||
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On July 14 2013 18:20 Onegu wrote: Wierd vote choice here, geript isnt getting lynched. I dont like what geript did and some of his positions but I dont see scum makeing big waves like that. This just makes me think you dont want to bus you scum buddy austin. Wierd timeing there stutters... | ||
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On July 15 2013 02:20 Z-BosoN wrote: lolwut don't contribute? I contribute more than you. In fact, my earlier contribution put me back to null on you And now just because I baited you into voting for me you easily do so?? And your case is that I have had many scum reads, even though right now I have like 3-4? You're pathetic. Or scum. Have to see which. You have had 10 (11 if you count me) scum reads but your votes havent been on one of your reads. And your actions after you list made me feel scum on you which I said. | ||
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On July 15 2013 02:37 Alakaslam wrote: Are we suspicious of Gumshoe and CA? No one has answered me as to wether ninja voteing is a scum tell or not (first game with vote thread) if it isnt I dont think we are, but I dont want a lurker lynch today anyway. | ||
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Again what radiation does. Original Message From Artanis[Xp]: Radiation is a mechanic that comes from radiation nukes. It infects people and kills them the next turn. The second part however doesn't happen to you. And yeah, you don't have a nuke. | ||
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Depending on how nukes land and what flips are will reevaluate reads, I dont think geript is scum most of his actions I have disagreed with, just dont see those as scum actions. I think it is safe to say town doesnt get eadiation nukes. | ||
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Hell for that matter me and you were around we see CA launch and launch at the same time to make CA look bad. Would be kinda stupid for me to launch at myself though. | ||
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On July 17 2013 20:39 Koshi wrote: But CA said he got the nuke while being nuked himself. This is strange right? Like why would somebody give a nuke to CA after CA being nuked? You cant go here either as there is no way to know when he got the nuke, maybe this is the first time he checked the thread. | ||
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On July 17 2013 23:30 Chezinu wrote: Note to self: Don't fake nuke a drunk guy, he may nuke back. Btw, thank you Planar Dragon! YOU WIN 100,000 Cheznos with 25,000 Nuka'Chez Caps!!!! You didnt fake nuke... | ||
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WoS death odd, I think he was killed by radiation meaning s&b is scum and active. | ||
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I warned you. | ||
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On July 21 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote: getmoript. I played how I felt I had to play to win as scum. I worked pretty well because even though I posted quite a lot in this thread, nobody pressured me. My role was hidden till the very end. You got to understand that I am really new to this game and that using that to my advantage is not so stupid like you aggressively keep repeating. You are a douchebag. I am really upset after reading this. wtf m8? I tried my best in TL+ as town, first game ever. I tried my best in the Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV and died first night. This is the third game that has finished and I was scum so I had to pretend to be less knowing that I was... Where is all the hate coming from? Nah man you played good dont let some random who didnt even play get you down, look forward to playing with you again | ||
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