EPTMeapak, what's with you and Dandel Ion? He hasn't really done anything, yeah, and that's concerning. Especially compared to his town play in PTP. Actually he might be an okay lynch, but it'd basically be a shot into the dark (he could reasonably likely be just AFK as town). Not a solid scum lynch by any means.
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Meapak, what's with you and Dandel Ion? He hasn't really done anything, yeah, and that's concerning. Especially compared to his town play in PTP. Actually he might be an okay lynch, but it'd basically be a shot into the dark (he could reasonably likely be just AFK as town). Not a solid scum lynch by any means. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:53 austinmcc wrote: I need to wait for contribution in some cases because it's the answer/thought process itself that's more important to me than anything else someone has posted. Or, at least, that's the case with Onegu. Also, yes. My play so far has been lazy/reactive. But as of right now, I'm doing what I'm doing. Also also, if you don't die, I have determined that you are town. Huzzah! That warms my heart. If you're actually town after all, that is. Right now I'm finding that a bit hard to believe with your uncharacteristically reactionary and passive playstyle. | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: As austin's scumbuddy in PTP I can't get behind his lynch today. There are just too many differences. He's not as evasive as he was in PTP and he's been a lot more active. I very carefully watched his play in PTP and I just don't see enough similarities here. Dandel on the other hand is trying to skate in a large game. I recall him being a lot more active and spammy when he's town. He's usually making reads and participating but instead this game I feel like he's trying to see how long he can lurk. This is not town Dandel and I feel that it is a much better lynch than austin. My brother nuke-target has abandoned me  It's no wonder if austinmcc is more active now, since he was AFK for quite some times in PTP (I think?). Also it's not impossible to act a bit differently otherwise, just to make it harder to read you for example. Lynching Dandel Ion based on being completely AFK feels... Random, I guess. He might flip scum, he might flip town, but there's no real way to say for good certainty which it's going to be. I agree that his AFK-fest points to scum rather than town, but I also wonder if he would really be so stupid to sacrifice any chance to survive until endgame like this (if he keeps up this level of activity). | ||
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Going to sleep now though. geript/rayn, your thoughts on austin btw? | ||
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austinmcc lynch doesn't seem likely today, and maybe he's not even the optimal lynch either after all. At least he has the potential to be very useful later on, unlike many of our lurkish/vague posters. Chezinu is leading atm, but I'm not really satisfied with lynching him (only a slightly higher than average chance of flipping scum). I'll have to reconsider players like Onegu, NG, MajuGarzett etc. for today. Also strongandbig hasn't made a good impression on me, but I'll have to recheck him soonish. Btw it sure feels good to be everyone's consensus townread for once  I don't think I've ever achieved this level of trust before. Gotta reread this game as a reference to establishing innocence in later games (haven't been so good at that oftentimes.....). | ||
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Chezinu's play feels too random to claim he's a likely scum. Granted, I don't know his meta, but I get the feeling it's not going to be hard to determine his alignment sooner or later if he keeps playing this way. So: it feels too early to lynch him right now. The same goes for WoS, I'd rather wait some more than lynch. I already mentioned how I mistakenly tunneled him in PTP (he was town) for better reasons than have been given about him so far - frankly, he feels like a real lynchbait, much like johnnywup (scummy even while town). strongandbig hasn't posted much yet (and what little he has posted, has been more confusing than helpful). He even called one of johnnywup's posts "scummy" without any kind of reasoning, and then proceeded to fling **** at gumshoe with some weird WIFOM. Verdict: very possibly scum. OriginalName is reading pretty null to me atm, don't think he's a good lynch today. NG could be a good lynch. Posts like this: On July 07 2013 15:33 Nirvana.Gabo wrote: I like the random nuking. Good way to seem active and taking strong stances without being legitimate. :/ Just scream "scum" to me. Making vague remarks and casting suspicion without committing to absolutely anything... Also his fast jump on the Onegu train after casually reading the thread and missing important posts doesn't look good, at all. Both Onegu and NG probably aren't scum, but I'd say Onegu has still an okay chance of flipping scum. Especially his non-committal attitude and flinging suspicion carefully didn't look good. I'm pretty sure that the following players are town atm: geript, rayn, Meapak, Ace. I'd like your opinions on today's lynch, considering my preferences, so that we can lynch correctly today (it might be my last day after all). | ||
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On July 08 2013 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: From what has been said in thread until now i want to lynch Chezinu/NG. I don't buy Chezinu's "explanations" as i have told, and noone has still told me why io am wrong in my post where i explained my view from scum!Chez and town!Chez perspective. Hell, he hasn't done that himself. For NG i have given my reasons. I think those two are our best lynches atm. You might be right about Chezinu, but IMO there are too many unanswered questions about him, his nuke etc. to pass judgement yet. For all we know, it might even be a passable time-bomb or something like that (Vayne suggested that I think?). If I do indeed detonate, come deadline, you have my permission to tunnel him to death  I can agree on NG. His vote for Onegu felt more like a throwaway scum vote than actually caring if he's scum or not. | ||
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On July 08 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's why i said he needs to claim whatever it is after nukes can be no more sent in (which is now). Or his reasons for nuking you from all the people. Yeah, he really needs to. In fact, if he doesn't start making sense before deadline, I might be inclined to lynch him anyway. As town, he should start giving the thread something to work with at some point (right about now would be a good time). If he keeps quiet/nonsensible until deadline, it could be a sign of him being scum and refusing town information. So far his attitude could have been just towny trolling and/or saving relevant information for the last 12 hours of D1, but now he should be stepping up his play already. | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote: guysss I have a 1shot anti nuke thing. so I can shoot down nukes Which nuke do I destroy!. Im currently going with the xalatos one because Chez scumread is stronger than Johnny scumread ESPECIALLY since johnny seems to be posting, I feel that I can get a more confident read on johnny later. Also chez has never ever ever explained why xalatos past CHEZINU RULE. I dont buy it. Nope. Discuss. Isn't the nuke deadline over already? | ||
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On July 08 2013 22:59 Z-BosoN wrote: This is a post from a while back but I feel I want to dig a little deeper. My main concern with Ace at the moment is that he defended rayn at a moment in which he was under heavy aggression. Now, if I do this as a townie, the main thing I want to do is redirect attention from rayn towards something else. But his following posts do not indicate this: clicky He's not trying to steer the thread anywhere. As town I feel that letting people pressure rayn is much more natural, for me to get a better read. It's small, but I not comfortable with calling him "probably town". What do you think? Hmm. It's mostly a gutread, but I've seen Ace play scum and he didn't do anything unnecessary like that then. He just lurked and didn't scumhunt, at all, except maybe a bit to justify a bandwagon vote. Now he's already 1) participated in the me-rayn-geript discussion in a pretty genuine-feeling way 2) otherwise participated in constructive discussion and shared reads quite openly. It's too early to call him clearly town, but I feel like he has a pretty low chance of flipping scum atm. | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Im pretty sure I can Ok nice. I think you should use it now if you can. TanGeng is a really bad pick, but I'm not completely sure if you should use it on me or Meapak. Meapak apparently has no other protection and he was nuked secretly -> very likely by scum -> he's likely town. Also, his behaviour after being nuked has been townish and very open (unlike TanGeng). I of course know that I'm town and everyone seems to agree, but I have a good chance of surviving the nuke because of my role. I want to live naturally, so I'd prefer if you anti-nuked me, but Meapak is a good choice as well. | ||
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You are a Immune One! You have no special powers other than that Radiation nukes do not harm you, but do infect you. Each night, you may choose to visit a player. If you are infected with radiation, it will spread to them. You will not be informed if you are infected. Once infected, your infection will last the entire game. That should help to make an informed decision, Oatsmaster. I'm not really sure what it means, but maybe your anti-nuke role clears something about my role as well. The way I understand it, Radiation nuke is one type of nuke and there are others as well. However, it might be the only type of nuke and the "different types of nukes" means just launch mechanics (secret/claim/etc.). | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:38 TanGeng wrote: Hmmm what does infection mechanic do? No idea. | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:42 TanGeng wrote: EBWOP: From the POV of town what should you be doing if you are radiation infected? It's hard to say since I don't know what infection does. Kills? Dunno. If it means that every nuke is a Radiation nuke, I can spread the Radiation to someone during night, then probably it kills if the target isn't immune like me. Or it could be some kind of debuff.. Probably kills though. In that case it would kind of like a Vigi KP. Since johnnywup said that his role just said "nuke", without any specific type, I'm starting to think that I might be immune to all nukes. In that case it would be safer to anti-nuke Meapak, Oatsmaster. | ||
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On July 08 2013 23:50 Onegu wrote: EBWOP Radiation is a mechanic that comes from radiation nukes. It infects people and kills them the next turn. The second part however doesn't happen to you. Do you know if there are other types of nukes or just Radiation nukes? | ||
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Well, if that's the case... Apparently I'm not going to die, but rather gain a night-KP That's good to hear. You should definitely NOT anti-nuke me Oatsmaster - I want that KP! | ||
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On July 09 2013 00:02 TanGeng wrote: Xatalos, why didn't you ask the host about your role mechanics. Well, I can try asking, although I'm not sure if they're supposed to reveal things like are there other than Radiation nukes. | ||
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On July 09 2013 00:12 TanGeng wrote: No I mean asking about radiation infection. Seriously. WTF is wrong with you. Lol. Well, maybe I should have asked that one, but the role PM was so confusing that I thought it wasn't supposed to be 100% clear at first. Like maybe all roles would make more sense as the game progressed. | ||
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On July 09 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, after reading the last page i dunno. Maybe it's better that the nuke on Xatalos lands. If he does not die, gratz, we got a vigi. If he does die, Chezinu looks terrible. Xatalos can't be mafia working with Chez like this, there's no way he would have claimed that as mafia. I suggest we lynch NG. Anyone in? Because if Chezinu's nuke is some type that "helps" people, as there apparently are people who gain something from nukes, it makes sense to shoot it towards a townie. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Nirvana.Gabo Here's the case: The problem is that Chezinu didn't know about my role... Which means that if his nuke is lethal, he definitely wanted to kill me (the most powerful townread of the thread at the time probably). It looks like his nuke is going to be beneficial for me either way, but IF he attempted to kill me (which is more likely than not), he didn't do it for any good reasons. It's hard to say anything about Chezinu atm though. I'm still waiting for him to start explaining, but I'm okay with lynching NG. | ||
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