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Stutters695
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johnnywup
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austinmcc
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On July 15 2013 03:03 Stutters695 wrote: I'd like to hear from either missile defense system person definitively whether their role is a person or a place.Austin who do you want to lynch? Still me? Honest answer is I don't effing know right now. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
[QUOTE]On July 15 2013 03:03 Stutters695 wrote: Austin who do you want to lynch? Still me?[/QUOTE]I'd like to hear from either missile defense system person definitively whether their role is a person or a place. Honest answer is I don't effing know right now. [/QUOTE] what? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 15 2013 02:54 WaveofShadow wrote: There are a few options I see open to me atm. I would switch within reason but of today's 'popular' topics I will not be voting for MG, Austin, or CA. Right now I am staying on Geript. If we a lot of trouble consolidating I would feel comfortable voting Gumshoe. I would really like to see what Ace is going to be doing with his vote today, because as of now he is still on MG. Ok thank you. You are seeing this game exactly like I am. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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Z-BosoN
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On July 15 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote: Ok thank you. You are seeing this game exactly like I am. How is he seeing the game exactly as you are? The bolded is not what you are agreeing with down here: On July 15 2013 00:34 Koshi wrote: I am willing to vote on geript, Austin, CA, gumshoe, Chezinu. In that order. Day 4: MG if the nuke is fake Stutters if the nuke is real It sucks that we can only kill 1 guy a day. That's really stupid imo and makes this game pretty slow. The only thing you guys agree with is geript, but you are totally willing to kill Austin and CA | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 14 2013 03:47 strongandbig wrote: yeah i want to kill austin. if ace's nuke is the only one flying at maju and we know it's fake, why hasn't someone else nuked maju yet? are we out of town nukes? that would be lame. anyway i'ma vote austin. I srsly think there were scum behind the original name lynch and they woudl have needed a leader, and austin is that person. ##vote: austinmcc He's just parked his vote there and didn't really do anything to pursue his scumread. His next two posts are fluffy and don't add much to the thread. He also did the same thing with vayneauthority later on: On July 12 2013 02:18 strongandbig wrote: four, at least also im voting va ##vote: vayneauthority i think hes had a bunch of scummy behaviors so id rather lynch him. That seems disinterested as all hell, and reeks of lazy scum play. Also, before voting Vayne, he had his vote on DL, for equally bad reasons: On July 09 2013 02:34 strongandbig wrote: ima vote dandelion cause i dont like him that's a lurker lynch right? or a policy lynch cause he is thread poison? or is there a case on him somewhere actually what cases are there on actual people? ##vote: dandeloin also did anyone say anything about the thing i posted before? that really looks like a weird thing that va said. Townie SnB is much more interactive and has much better posts. Trying to think if I should try to push a wagon on him right now. He seems like a great choice, because I've been trying to put pressure on him left and right for some time, and it seems like it just doesn't catch, despite him looking like a scummy-as-fuck player. | ||
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Koshi
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Z-BosoN
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Koshi
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I see why you and geript are good friends. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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On July 15 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote: Z-Boson. Are you fucking blind? GUMSHOE IS THERE AS WELL Are you fucking dumb? You're ok with lynching CA and Austin, while he isn't. Wtf is your problem? Play nice, dude | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:05 austinmcc wrote: Let me be more specific.I'd like to hear from either missile defense system person definitively whether their role is a person or a place. Honest answer is I don't effing know right now. I'm troubled by Ace's still being alive and his...lack of direction. He had a nuke today, is asking some decent questions for information, but I am expecting him to have more impact than he's having. But he got nuked yesterday, and he had some very townie posts after the nuke. Simplest explanation is that he's townie, but hasn't bee a priority target over more active players, but the fact that he claimed to have a nuke and didn't get killed ain't good. Geript's actions didn't make sense yesterday, still don't. But he's been so active and I was so confused myself towards the end of yesterday that I don't want to kill him. I still halfway want to try and find oats scummy, but based on his saves and a number of small, sensible posts in his filter, that just isn't the case. But good lord he wasn't reading thread for a while, and was arguing without rereading or knowing what he himself had done this game, and normally from someone I know to normally follow games, not knowing what's going on is a scumtell. Don't want to lynch though, would prefer to drop my suspicions and be happy to have someone I was really, really confident in being town. I also secretly want to find sentinel scummy. Replacing in for a lurker, dropping DI who I honestly think would have ended up being yesterday's lynch, puts him safe for the cost of 1 KP, but they make that back up in the lynch (nuke DI, lynch townie, rather than lynch DI and nuke townie). However, he's also had some sensible posts, and it's far far more likely that he's town and nuked scum rather than the paranoid him bussing with the nuke option (BIG NOTE HERE: SO FAR HE IS THE ONLY PERSON TO HAVE CLAIMED A SINGLE NUKE THAT WAS NOT UNSTABLE. EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN A FACTORY, BEEN HANDED A NUKE, OR STARTED THE GAME WITH AN UNSTABLE NUKE). Chez is...chez. I think lynching him is, to a large extent, a stab in the dark. Not worth it when there are other targets. I'm still of the mind that someone's got a silent nuke factory, and that VA fits the bill, but I'd rather be able to look him over, consider the whole filter, see who's accused him and not spoken about him, and have a longer discussion about it than we can have today. I can think what I think, but can't really push a lynch based purely on a night action I claim and how I think the game works, especially when I don't have a lot of pull in thread right now with some folks. So...I come down to three options: (1) Stutters. Silent nuke stuff doesn't affect him. But that PM reads fake. (2) snb or onegu. 4 immune one claims. Both onegu and snb posting about superpowers/radiation before things were fully revealed by others, so likely that they ARE immune ones. However, all 4 on one team, especially a role that scum might really be able to use (extra KP from radiation sickness), seems unlikely. Between the two, I think I'd prefer an snb lynch. snb never super mcduper active, but ... his last day or so has felt very lazy when compared to his earlier posts, when most other people are ramping up their interest in the game or trying to figure things out. (3) gumshoe or CA as lurkers, (possibly Z-Boson but he's been more involved and also has shown that he'll go look through past games (or claim to be doing so) which makes me somewhat townier on him than the others). Between those... gumshoe was playful most of D1, then absent and now not playful. It may just be me, but because I feel like you have to be more focused on the game when mafia, I find mafia less likely to go inactive. I don't think that holds for everyone. But these posts, despite the hard martyring or whatever, actually read somewhat townie to me: On July 13 2013 05:09 gumshoe wrote: Also for those who consider my absence neutral, they're wrong, the last time I went afk for ever it was when I rolled scum and crumbled beneath the pressures of subterfuge. So technicaly the meta says I stand by best Korea / : sadly the meta is wrong. So same stick as before, I'll go read much as I can, meantime I'd appreciate if any one has something specific they'd like me to look at. On July 13 2013 05:18 gumshoe wrote: Points out that his last absence was scum when nobody brought that up. Dangerous if scum.The issue at hand is there's nothing to defend, although in most cases this degree of inactivity is neutral, in my case it is not. There is precedent that I cannot deny. Anyone you'd like me to take a gander at? Caucasian constant promises to be around, read game, but never does. Hides behind being drunk, says he On July 14 2013 02:08 CaucasianAsian wrote: I read a little bit of ver's guide, and learned a bit. I'll try to do some real analysis tomorrow. but is constantly pointed out how he's new to text mafia, thread moving fast, etc. etc. All the excuses and stuff would look scummy under Ver's guide and analysis as far as I remember, which actually really makes me not like him. Would rather lynch CA out of the pair. Pant pant. There are my full thoughts on the lynch, slightly more explicit than I don't know who. I'm a fan of CA or onegu/snb, after taking a bit more time to look through them. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:21 Z-BosoN wrote: No. See Meapak's role:@Austin , your role is you can steal a nuke if someone has any? Also, which was the silent nuke day 2, was it the one at Ace? I don't remember. You are a War Protestor! You're tired of nukes and just want them to stop. Once per night, you may choose to raid a player. If that player has the capability to create nukes, his facility will be destroyed. Targeted VA N1, stutters N2.D1: OriginalName as North-Korean Technician [/spoiler]All our flips so far have been...people. Technicians, a politican, a medic, kenpachi, a protestor, immune ones. Essentially, all role names have been humans or jobs that humans do.D1: TanGeng as Xi JingPeng D1: Nirvana.Gabo as Medic N1: raynpelikoneet as Kenpachi N1: Meapak_Ziphh as War Protestor D2: jampidampi as Immune One D2: XigXag as North-Korean Technician N2: FirmTofu as Russian Technician N2: Xalatos as Immune One Stutters claimed: On July 13 2013 07:38 Stutters695 wrote: Ace your nuke is fake. Here's my real role PM. I changed it to only sometimes fake to try and get NK'd to stop it but I got a PM saying it got raided and destroyed so no need for that anymore. You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. Toy store, which is a ... place. I have been asking you and geript whether your rolename is a person or a place. I guess oats should chime in too. If you/geript/oats all have people or jobs for roles, "missile defense operator" or something like that, then stutters's claim reads more fake to me than it already does. I hate the "nuke type" bit with no explanation, don't believe that to be a true/full PM. And if you guys are people/jobs, then his "Toy Store" claim ALSO doesn't fit well with what we know, adding another level of "doesn't seem true" to the claim. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Pretty sure CA isn't either; people were saying that he played the TL+ game exactly this way as well as town. I could do SnB, but I haven't seen enough of his play in other games to know his meta. Everyone voting Austin or MG needs to really think about what they're doing right now. | ||
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Stutters695
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:33 Z-BosoN wrote: Are you fucking dumb? You're ok with lynching CA and Austin, while he isn't. Wtf is your problem? Play nice, dude You say that we only agree on Geript, while we also agree on not killing MG (which is rare) and that gumshoe is an option as well. I have also said 1684567856444 times in this thread that I am pro Austin and the only reason that I want him lynched is because Xatalos said so. CA is CA and I don't really want him lynched but I wouldn't mind. Fucking hell. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I just don't like relying on meta that much, especially if it's a one or two game town meta based on "He posted that he was drunk a lot and then didn't do much, despite making promises that he'd have hours to devote the on x day or y day."Onegu isn't scum. Pretty sure CA isn't either; people were saying that he played the TL+ game exactly this way as well as town. I could do SnB, but I haven't seen enough of his play in other games to know his meta. Everyone voting Austin or MG needs to really think about what they're doing right now. I'd be grinning ear to ear every time I rolled mafia if that were my town meta. Post drunk, sheep whatever, ta da! snb has been entirely inactive, modkilled or warned, in at least a couple games I've played with him. But generally i've found him to be more impactful in his town games, where even if he's not super active his posts are reasoned, affect something in the thread and give his actual thoughts. Would rather focus on what he's doing in this game though than in past ones, but ymmv. From what I remember, he was town and more active in Aperture 2, town and more active in ... movie star mini? He was scum and extremely lurky after a while in Chrono Trigger. I think barely played in like...GSL mini 2 and PTP4? I'ma go look em over. Also, are you a people role or a place role? | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Onegu isn't scum. Pretty sure CA isn't either; people were saying that he played the TL+ game exactly this way as well as town. I could do SnB, but I haven't seen enough of his play in other games to know his meta. Everyone voting Austin or MG needs to really think about what they're doing right now. Care to elaborate? | ||
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