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On July 15 2013 01:51 strongandbig wrote:
I'm down to lynch geript for using his defense on jampi, but I'd rather lynch Austin.
I don't understand why stutters would have given ace the nuke, then told us it was fake, if it was actually real and stutters is scum. That whole concept just doesn't really compute for me, what action would he have been trying to induce by the lie.
If people really think Maju is scum then I don't think it makes sense to let the nuke land "just in case" stutters was lying and it's real. If you think Maju is scum, lynch him. Then lynch stutters if you think him lying about his role is a scum tell. But we know he lied about his role at least once, how does it make a difference if he lied a second time and the first time was actually the true one.
What if he lied both times? He never answered the question about how he got PM'ed "types of nukes" but never bothered to ask what types there are.
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On July 15 2013 01:55 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:53 austinmcc wrote:On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? I was waiting to see if a silent nuke got launched today. Possibility of that ended 7ish hours ago. The early confusion was you hearing that stutters's factory got raided, and so thinking your nuke had been destroyed. But seeing as you appear to have still had a nuke...I figured you could sort that one out. I did sort it out  I was saying why you didn't just fess up, but if you think Stutters was silent nuking then sure. If a silent nuke did get launched how would that have incriminated him though? Like what was your plan of action? If a silent nuke gets launched, then it doesn't implicate him. Then I just fight the lynch if it's on me, and keep looking elsewhere.
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On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right?
Stutters was telling the truth about what?
According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke.
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since a nuke didn't get launched, and you raided him - then you feel he is still possibly the launcher of silent nukes then. Correct?
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On July 15 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? Stutters was telling the truth about what? According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke.
???
I thought the nuke not killing Maju was the test for whether it was fake or not. Are we sure the actual launch is the test?
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On July 15 2013 01:59 Ace wrote:
since a nuke didn't get launched, and you raided him - then you feel he is still possibly the launcher of silent nukes then. Correct? Yeah. Actually checking on one thing that could throw this off, but depending on how that answer comes back, yes, I think he was the launcher of the silent nukes.
If nobody else raided anyone else, then I know that we saw silent nukes and now haven't. I know that only one nuke factory got shut down last night. Likely conclusion is that dude who got shut down was the one making silent nukes.
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On July 15 2013 02:00 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? Stutters was telling the truth about what? According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke. ??? I thought the nuke not killing Maju was the test for whether it was fake or not. Are we sure the actual launch is the test?
...What?
The nuke hasn't landed yet.
Ace what are you talking about?
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On July 15 2013 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:00 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 01:51 Ace wrote:
Deadline should have passed, so Stutters was telling the truth. Austin also confessed to raiding him so he was telling the truth about that too.
austin why did you wait this long to tell the truth about targeting Stutters? You read the interaction between me and him when we were both confused about why the nuke never went off. You could have said something right? Stutters was telling the truth about what? According to Vayne if he was telling the truth you should never have even been able to launch a nuke. ??? I thought the nuke not killing Maju was the test for whether it was fake or not. Are we sure the actual launch is the test? ...What? The nuke hasn't landed yet. Ace what are you talking about?
I fired it 12 hours ago
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Hmm that's interesting. So who gave ace his nuke then
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oh wait, they dont land in 12 hours.
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Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA.
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On July 14 2013 12:00 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 13 2013 13:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote:On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why weren't you pushing me before that?
Why didn't you make a case on me?
You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon.
I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had.
Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread? I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE  -BOSAN
lolwut
don't contribute? I contribute more than you. In fact, my earlier contribution put me back to null on you
I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him
And now just because I baited you into voting for me you easily do so?? And your case is that I have had many scum reads, even though right now I have like 3-4? You're pathetic. Or scum. Have to see which.
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On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA.
I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers.
would I receive a notification that I was raided?
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On July 15 2013 01:43 johnnywup wrote:
i thought s0lstice was nuked. broken game
oh yeah, unvote for now. I was liking an austin lynch a lot yesterday but he's been making a lot of good posts lately and aghhhhhhh. I don't know.
##unvote
His "good" posts consist of trying to get me lynched for lying about a role PM in a closed setup by comparing me to completely different roles.
His only other suggestion is that I'm the silent nuker since he raided me and there hasn't been one. Look where he blatantly contradicts himself in that same post.
"I don't think the silent nukes can come from a super inactive player"
yet "I'm still near-convinced that stutters is lying about his role PM. I cannot explain the lack of silent nuke today beyond stutters being the silent nuker."
These aren't contributions, he's pushing a mislynch on setup speculation when countless games have proved that's not reliable in anything but an open setup (Les Mis and Basterd to name two recent ones I've played in).
Austin isn't dumb, thus I'm inclined to believe he's scum
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On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA. I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers. would I receive a notification that I was raided? I raided you N1, stutters N2.
We saw silent nukes D1, D2, nothing D3.
IF a raid shut down silent nukes, it would be the raid on you, because a factory still produces a nuke on the night that it's raided. Therefore, if stutters produced silent nukes each cycle/night, he would have one today, as he was only raided last night. If you produced silent nukes, you would have had one yesterday, the one made during D1/N1, but not one today.
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On July 15 2013 02:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA. I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers. would I receive a notification that I was raided? I raided you N1, stutters N2. We saw silent nukes D1, D2, nothing D3. IF a raid shut down silent nukes, it would be the raid on you, because a factory still produces a nuke on the night that it's raided. Therefore, if stutters produced silent nukes each cycle/night, he would have one today, as he was only raided last night. If you produced silent nukes, you would have had one yesterday, the one made during D1/N1, but not one today.
That would frankly be OP if there was a scum sided role that got to fire a silent nuke every night. They were probably a 2 shot nuker or something like that. I dont think raiding anyone implies anything.
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On July 15 2013 02:22 Stutters695 wrote:
he's pushing a mislynch on setup speculation Your role LOOKS fake. It's less setup speculation and more things that don't look right about your PM. Everyone else so far is a person, you're a thing. You are allowed to choose a type of nuke to make, even though nothing informs you about types of nukes? Neither of those, ESPECIALLY the second, makes sense. Therefore, more likely than not that you're lying about your role PM.
As far as the silent nuke stuff, that's not speculation as much as just...what I know happened. I saw silent nukes, now I don't today. Most likely conclusion, given that so far we've seen a bunch of technicians that make nukes flip, is that whoever was making silent nukes got shut down. However, if I'm the protestor who shut them down, it's VA and not you.
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Lol austin you're making so many assumptions with this case its ridiculous.
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have you been paying attention austin
actually yeah I don't know why you're assuming that there's an infinite vig. that would be crazy broken.
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Or the hosts felt that having a role with the knowledge of every type of nuke on towns side would be game breaking? Or the host forgot to say toy store owner. There are plenty of scenarios that fit this yet you aren't even considering them.
Sentinel I answered what you're saying I didn't.
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