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On July 15 2013 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol austin you're making so many assumptions with this case its ridiculous.
On July 15 2013 02:28 johnnywup wrote:
have you been paying attention austin
actually yeah I don't know why you're assuming that there's an infinite vig. that would be crazy broken. Yeah, I'm making assumptions.
Either we had one silent nuker with two nukes who could only shoot once per day OR
Two silent nukers and one happened to hold a shot for the second day OR
Someone, scum or 3P, gets a silent nuke each day, and used it to shoot at town
I find the third more likely than the first two. An infinite vig is not crazy broken in a game where multiple people pass out nukes every 2 nights, or at least I don't believe it to be. As of now, based on what we've seen, the only nukes that started off existing were the volatile ones, and we've seen multiple folks flip as technicians. Implying that nukes that didn't start in this game are created.
It's less damning when it doesn't match up with stutters role PM, but you guys know who I raided if I end up killified.
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On July 15 2013 02:20 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 12:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 13 2013 13:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote:On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why weren't you pushing me before that?
Why didn't you make a case on me?
You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon.
I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had.
Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread? I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE  -BOSAN lolwut don't contribute? I contribute more than you. In fact, my earlier contribution put me back to null on you And now just because I baited you into voting for me you easily do so?? And your case is that I have had many scum reads, even though right now I have like 3-4? You're pathetic. Or scum. Have to see which.
You have had 10 (11 if you count me) scum reads but your votes havent been on one of your reads. And your actions after you list made me feel scum on you which I said.
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Are we suspicious of Gumshoe and CA?
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On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA. I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers. would I receive a notification that I was raided?
The answer is in my filter, but yes. So you weren't raided.
IM VOTING AUSTIN. IT GOES NOWHERE.
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On July 15 2013 02:33 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol austin you're making so many assumptions with this case its ridiculous.
Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:28 johnnywup wrote:
have you been paying attention austin
actually yeah I don't know why you're assuming that there's an infinite vig. that would be crazy broken. Yeah, I'm making assumptions. Either we had one silent nuker with two nukes who could only shoot once per day OR Two silent nukers and one happened to hold a shot for the second day OR Someone, scum or 3P, gets a silent nuke each day, and used it to shoot at town I find the third more likely than the first two. An infinite vig is not crazy broken in a game where multiple people pass out nukes every 2 nights, or at least I don't believe it to be. As of now, based on what we've seen, the only nukes that started off existing were the volatile ones, and we've seen multiple folks flip as technicians. Implying that nukes that didn't start in this game are created. It's less damning when it doesn't match up with stutters role PM, but you guys know who I raided if I end up killified.
Honestly, I believe that you believe what you've been saying, I just don't necessarily agree with it; it seems just as likely to me that some random scummer only had two nukes or something.
I won't have time until after the flip later tonight, but can someone compile a list of claims/roles we know of so far and actions?
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On July 15 2013 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA. I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers. would I receive a notification that I was raided? The answer is in my filter, but yes. So you weren't raided. IM VOTING AUSTIN. IT GOES NOWHERE. Either you're lying or VA is. Targeted him N1.
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On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
would I receive a notification that I was raided?
just as a reminder...
On June 21 2013 05:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
All questions should be asked through PM. In-thread questions will not be answered and may lead to a warning or even a modkill in severe cases.
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On July 15 2013 02:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Are we suspicious of Gumshoe and CA?
No one has answered me as to wether ninja voteing is a scum tell or not (first game with vote thread) if it isnt I dont think we are, but I dont want a lurker lynch today anyway.
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I'm not suspicious of gumshoe really and am somewhat suspicious of CA but not severely. They aren't lynch options for today either way.
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This makes me want to see austins flip even more, if town we have VA now,.
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@WaveofShadow Are you staying on geript or not? If not where are you going? I think I will follow you...
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On July 15 2013 02:28 Stutters695 wrote:
Or the hosts felt that having a role with the knowledge of every type of nuke on towns side would be game breaking? Or the host forgot to say toy store owner. There are plenty of scenarios that fit this yet you aren't even considering them.
Sentinel I answered what you're saying I didn't.
Where at? Does this mean you know about the types of nukes now?
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On July 15 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
@WaveofShadow Are you staying on geript or not? If not where are you going? I think I will follow you...
There are a few options I see open to me atm. I would switch within reason but of today's 'popular' topics I will not be voting for MG, Austin, or CA.
Right now I am staying on Geript. If we a lot of trouble consolidating I would feel comfortable voting Gumshoe. I would really like to see what Ace is going to be doing with his vote today, because as of now he is still on MG.
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mods refused to give me any info on the notification thing, which usually means it has to do with something fishy.
##unvote
##vote: austinmcc
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On July 15 2013 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
mods refused to give me any info on the notification thing, which usually means it has to do with something fishy.
##unvote
##vote: austinmcc
how does that mean that theres something fishy at all? it's a closed setup..
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On July 15 2013 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
mods refused to give me any info on the notification thing, which usually means it has to do with something fishy.
##unvote
##vote: austinmcc On July 15 2013 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 15 2013 02:13 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, scratch the silent nuke stuff. My action resolves at the same time a nuke would be made, so me raiding someone means they'd still have any nukes they made.
Raided VA N1. So the silent nukes implicate him, not stutters. Stutters role PM still looks fake, but the silent nukes line up with a raid being successful on VA. I don't follow, how does raiding me implicate that I fired a nuke? Especially when I cannot given my claim? I have no powers. would I receive a notification that I was raided? The answer is in my filter, but yes. So you weren't raided. IM VOTING AUSTIN. IT GOES NOWHERE.
One of these things is not like the other.
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On July 15 2013 02:56 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
mods refused to give me any info on the notification thing, which usually means it has to do with something fishy.
##unvote
##vote: austinmcc how does that mean that theres something fishy at all? it's a closed setup..
yea and its closed for a reason. So that we can't figure out scum purely by notifications and such. He is scum.
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I'm not convinced. The fact that mods didn't answer your question isn't a fucking scumtell -.-
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On July 15 2013 02:58 johnnywup wrote:
I'm not convinced. The fact that mods didn't answer your question isn't a fucking scumtell -.-
That's not but his filter is.
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On July 15 2013 02:36 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 02:20 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 14 2013 12:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 13 2013 13:00 Onegu wrote:On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote:On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why weren't you pushing me before that?
Why didn't you make a case on me?
You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon.
I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had.
Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread? I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE -BOSAN lolwut don't contribute? I contribute more than you. In fact, my earlier contribution put me back to null on you I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him And now just because I baited you into voting for me you easily do so?? And your case is that I have had many scum reads, even though right now I have like 3-4? You're pathetic. Or scum. Have to see which. You have had 10 (11 if you count me) scum reads but your votes havent been on one of your reads. And your actions after you list made me feel scum on you which I said.
Is this your big tell? I've never had 10 simultaneous scum reads, they go changing as I gather more information. That's called scumhunting, something which is next-to-null in your filter. Also, there's a difference between " omg! you scum!" and " hmmm... xxxx is suspicious"
read my filter and you will see my real scumreads.
Btw, your choice for lynch makes little sense from a townie perspective. The moment I bait you into voting me, you do just that. And yet, you agreed with my lists. You agreed that geript shouldn't be lynched today. You agreed with me on austin.
Your choice to pursue me seems to be strictly based on the fact that you have already casually included me in your scum lists thrice, and nothing else (which is why I baited you), and not on the fact that you really think I'm scum, your "10 scum reads" thing is weak as all hell.
And btw, "waffleing" is a townie characteristic, as townies = confused and scum = certain.
If you are town you have to do better than that.
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