EPT##vote: Austin
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Stutters695
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I dont really think that trying to guess flavor is a good thing, cause mafia definitely has fakeclams. SnB is really starting to annoy me. He keeps popping in and voting as someone said earlier. SnB as town can be useful. Not here. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 15 2013 03:45 Koshi wrote: You say that we only agree on Geript, while we also agree on not killing MG (which is rare) and that gumshoe is an option as well. I have also said 1684567856444 times in this thread that I am pro Austin and the only reason that I want him lynched is because Xatalos said so. CA is CA and I don't really want him lynched but I wouldn't mind. Fucking hell. Oh boo-hoo I didn't mention gumshoe omg You disagree with him on austin, a top lynch choice for today. But you say you view the game in pretty much the same exact way, not trying to discuss that aspect in the slightest. Are you like 15 or something? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Z-Boson, I already elaborated. On July 14 2013 15:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok NOW I'm going to bed. I hate your filter. Looks horrible, but the above post is what forces me to believe that you're town. Nothing more to say. I actually need to go read Chrono Trigger for another reason as well---good reason as any to have a look at SnB's play. Oats you're better at yelling at people than me. Less than 3 hour to lynch, no consolidation. Do your thing breh. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:10 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh boo-hoo I didn't mention gumshoe omg You disagree with him on austin, a top lynch choice for today. But you say you view the game in pretty much the same exact way, not trying to discuss that aspect in the slightest. Are you like 15 or something? Haha I kind of agree here. For what it's worth though I'm pretty sure Koshi is town. I don't think I've ever seen mafia do in-depth numbers analysis like he did, and it wouldn't make sense to try and alert the town to KP reduction possibilities. Z Boson I'd like you to comment on Geript atm. You already shot my case down but you really didin't offer much in terms of reasoning, and especially now that we know that if we simultaneously lynch and nuke MG we don't find out if the nuke is real or not it makes sense that Geript is looking to bury info and buy scum as much time as possible. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm a person. Z-Boson, I already elaborated. I actually need to go read Chrono Trigger for another reason as well---good reason as any to have a look at SnB's play. Oats you're better at yelling at people than me. Less than 3 hour to lynch, no consolidation. Do your thing breh. Hmm, given that he's a newer player that post does seem fairly implausible. Also, for SnB, take a look at mario mini: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&user=strongandbig 100% a different player. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Gumshoe or SnB. Rereading SnB's filter, he doesnt push shit. Just complains and snipes at people but doesnt have any constant push on anyone in the game. I also dont think he's that bad to read austin as scum. Trying to push that mislynch man | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Haha I kind of agree here. For what it's worth though I'm pretty sure Koshi is town. I don't think I've ever seen mafia do in-depth numbers analysis like he did, and it wouldn't make sense to try and alert the town to KP reduction possibilities. Z Boson I'd like you to comment on Geript atm. You already shot my case down but you really didin't offer much in terms of reasoning, and especially now that we know that if we simultaneously lynch and nuke MG we don't find out if the nuke is real or not it makes sense that Geript is looking to bury info and buy scum as much time as possible. Problem I'm having with geript lynch is two things 1) His posts in beginning of day1 were pretty decent. I recall that when I was catching up I ended up agreeing with him in a lot of aspects 2) Him shooting down jampidampi nuke for his weird-ass reasoning if a reaaally weird play to make as scum. Only possible scum scenario I can think of is if he wanted some town cred for shooting down a townie, but that's just so risky. Can you link the main points against geript you'd like me to answer? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote: Problem I'm having with geript lynch is two things 1) His posts in beginning of day1 were pretty decent. I recall that when I was catching up I ended up agreeing with him in a lot of aspects 2) Him shooting down jampidampi nuke for his weird-ass reasoning if a reaaally weird play to make as scum. Only possible scum scenario I can think of is if he wanted some town cred for shooting down a townie, but that's just so risky. Can you link the main points against geript you'd like me to answer? I agree with what you've said and I firmly believed him to be town earlier on in the game but I changed my mind on him based on his shitflinging towards me and now his actions regarding jampi. It's not the protection of jampi that worries me (ie 'well-meaning townie' as Oats says) it's that plus the idea that he wants us SPECIFICALLY not to nuke MG from the very start of last night and rather to use our lynch on him. Combined with scum reasoning for shooting down the jampi nuke (towncred + wasting our lynch as he knew town sentiment was against letting jampi live, therefore he knew we'd waste our lynch on him) Geript must be scum. As far as Geript responding to me, I believe he did already but he didn't really tackle my points against him head on, and tries to skirt around it by treating my claims as ridiculous. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
As I see it, we agree on two options: gumshoe and SnB (two similar low-profile players who look scummy) Now, lynching MG seems kinda pointless because of the nuke sent at him, which has some chance to detonate and kill him. Austin I feel still has good chances of being scum, but I'm hesitant to lynch him at the moment because of his activity as of late (even if that's something a scum austin would totally be capable of). Geript I want to talk about more, but I don't feel he's a good lynch choice for today. That being said, I would like to discuss SnB and gumshoe more, once were finished with geript | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard. 2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters. The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
So Ace, who do we lynch? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote: Let me try and put things in order here. 1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard. 2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters. The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. No mention of Geript whatsoever? And why is the choice between Onegu and SnB, Ace? I mean, that's an easy choice for me as I have Onegu firmly as town, but why did you present those two as options specifically? It reads as though you're trying to lead a lynch away from somewhere. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Holy shit I'm going to need a fucking week to read Chrono Trigger. What the fuck guys? Read his 11 page filter on mario I posted earlier, you don't need to see the game and shit to be able to tell how different it is from this game. In Chrono, he was at least trying, he was my scumbuddy, so I remember it a bit Right now he's with this weird "I don't give a shit" attitude that seems contrived, and is anti-town regardless Will investigate geript right now on your earlier post | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 15 2013 04:34 Oatsmaster wrote: You dont really need to read chrono WoS. Lotta setup talk. So Ace, who do we lynch? NOT RELATED TO THIS GAME: That's exactly why I need to read it eventually.  | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Ace just to confirm you only received 1 nuke d2 right? | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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