EPT[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia - Page 127
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:20 Xatalos wrote: I also think that strongandbig is the most likely fakeclaimer among us Immune Ones at the moment. xalatos onegu snb jamp (dead) 2 of you appear on the ON lynch. If you believe snb is scum, do you believe Onegu is Town? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote: snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? That isn't necessarily townie. Recall roulette where your whole scumteam was basically on random votes the entire first couple days. It's actually a great way to fly under the radar. I was referring more to the fact of his reasoning that he just lets his team do the dirty work. It seems like there are a few active scum, and he pops in once in a while to say random stuff then leaves. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:20 Xatalos wrote: I also think that strongandbig is the most likely fakeclaimer among us Immune Ones at the moment. What I don't understand is his motive for claiming if he is scum. I'm going to take a look at his votes on previous wagons and form a new read on him. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Also stutters. Why not stutters. This is an excellent choice as well. I forgot about him. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:23 FirmTofu wrote: This is an excellent choice as well. I forgot about him. Actually stutters may not be the best choice. It looks like he was on the Dandel lynch. It's possible he was bussing, but is it likely? I'm not entirely convinced. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Xatalos: if you subscribe to the theory that scum are on the ON lynch, snb is scum, and Onegu is Town then narrow the list down. Also I'm not nuking any of the active players unless something amazing comes up. Even though Firm and Xalatos are on the ON list nuking either of them right now would be stupid. It's Mazu, a lurker, or someone else on the ON list for now. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Just nuke MajuGarzett. It's not just the fact of him being scummy (especially after jampidampi's flip), but maybe equally important is how productive D3 will be. If MajuGarzett lives, (most) everyone will just vote for him and D3's activity, quality contributions, arguments, effort put in by various players..... Everything pro-town will be severy reduced. The same might have well happened during D2 if XigXag hadn't been nuked by Sentinel. We might have just all agreed to vote for XigXag in the end, destroying all the great activity we had with the jampidampi/MajuGarzett/VayneAuthority arguments. If there isn't one scummy player on whom everyone agrees on, it becomes much, much harder for scum to sheep/bus and townies will be more easily distinguished from scum. Just do it!  | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:30 Xatalos wrote: I'm going to sleep now but final words for Ace: Just nuke MajuGarzett. It's not just the fact of him being scummy (especially after jampidampi's flip), but maybe equally important is how productive D3 will be. If MajuGarzett lives, (most) everyone will just vote for him and D3's activity, quality contributions, arguments, effort put in by various players..... Everything pro-town will be severy reduced. The same might have well happened during D2 if XigXag hadn't been nuked by Sentinel. We might have just all agreed to vote for XigXag in the end, destroying all the great activity we had with the jampidampi/MajuGarzett/VayneAuthority arguments. If there isn't one scummy player on whom everyone agrees on, it becomes much, much harder for scum to sheep/bus and townies will be more easily distinguished from scum. Just do it! I can support this. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
SnB, I need your views on austin. You seem to want him lynched, despite him pretty agreeing with you on VayneAuthority. Why? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
The people on the DI lynch are far from clear. Vayne should know this, but a scum Dandel ACTIVELY encourages people to bus him. I can link proof from Les scum QT if you wish. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:38 WaveofShadow wrote: People seem to forget something. The people on the DI lynch are far from clear. Vayne should know this, but a scum Dandel ACTIVELY encourages people to bus him. I can link proof from Les scum QT if you wish. Lets not forget how the lynch went down and the different circumstances though. We cant just let everything be static. In that game it was obvious dandel was going to die from the beginning and we simply instilled that into the town. Here he was going to get lynched and then last second a bunch of people start a crazy bandwagon onto ON and get rid of a blue. Lets not act like that is not scum motivated behavior. Sure there is probably a few scum on DL but there is much more scum on ON. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Dandel Ion (8): strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, jampidampi (12): MajuGarzett (3): Day 1: OriginalName vs Dandel Ion We know the alignments of both people. We can infer that scum would probably not want to be bussing on day 1, when it is not absolutely necessary. Therefore, the people on the Dandel wagon are extremely likely to be town and the people on the ON wagon are probably around an even split between town and scum. The scummiest people on the ON wagon are those who pushed it to save Dandel from death. That includes me, but because I know I am town, I will exclude myself from this analysis. Remember, the deciding votes are especially important. In my opinion, these are are people coming off as scummy from the ON lynch (from most scummy to least): ghost_403/Koshi Alakaslam gumshoe Onegu geript Chezinu austinmcc Alakaslam is a funny one. He initially hopped on the Dandel lynch when he thought it was inevitable. Then, when it looked like ON was picking up steam, he hopped on that lynch. Finally, when the lynch was imminent, he jumped over to Vayne to appear like he had nothing to do with the mislynch. It feels like he knew what the flip would be beforehand. Day 2: This day is a bit harder to analyze. We know that Maju is somewhat more likely to be scum because of the flip but we can't be certain. People coming off as scummy from the jampi lynch (from most scummy to least): Onegu Alakaslam ghost_403/Koshi geript (gumshoe for not voting) These are basically the people that couldn't decide one way or another until the lynch was already decided. They just jumped onto the wagon with the most votes and hoped that no one would care. This signifies apathy and is somewhat suggestive that these players are trying to more concerned about staying in the town's "good books" as long as possible instead of scumhunting. I no longer think Vayne or Ace are scum. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:38 WaveofShadow wrote: People seem to forget something. The people on the DI lynch are far from clear. Vayne should know this, but a scum Dandel ACTIVELY encourages people to bus him. I can link proof from Les scum QT if you wish. You already have, yet please do. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
My new top 3 scumreads are: Onegu Alakaslam ghost_403/Koshi If I had to add two more people, I would say gumshoe and Chezinu. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:54 FirmTofu wrote: Voting Analysis: OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Dandel Ion (8): strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, jampidampi (12): MajuGarzett (3): Day 1: OriginalName vs Dandel Ion We know the alignments of both people. We can infer that scum would probably not want to be bussing on day 1, when it is not absolutely necessary. Therefore, the people on the Dandel wagon are extremely likely to be town and the people on the ON wagon are probably around an even split between town and scum. The scummiest people on the ON wagon are those who pushed it to save Dandel from death. That includes me, but because I know I am town, I will exclude myself from this analysis. Remember, the deciding votes are especially important. In my opinion, these are are people coming off as scummy from the ON lynch (from most scummy to least): ghost_403/Koshi Alakaslam gumshoe Onegu geript Chezinu austinmcc Alakaslam is a funny one. He initially hopped on the Dandel lynch when he thought it was inevitable. Then, when it looked like ON was picking up steam, he hopped on that lynch. Finally, when the lynch was imminent, he jumped over to Vayne to appear like he had nothing to do with the mislynch. It feels like he knew what the flip would be beforehand. Day 2: This day is a bit harder to analyze. We know that Maju is somewhat more likely to be scum because of the flip but we can't be certain. People coming off as scummy from the jampi lynch (from most scummy to least): Onegu Alakaslam ghost_403/Koshi geript (gumshoe for not voting) These are basically the people that couldn't decide one way or another until the lynch was already decided. They just jumped onto the wagon with the most votes and hoped that no one would care. This signifies apathy and is somewhat suggestive that these players are trying to more concerned about staying in the town's "good books" as long as possible instead of scumhunting. I no longer think Vayne or Ace are scum. I have posted all the reasoning behind stuff as I did it. | ||
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