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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#141
speculating here, mabye because it didnt work how he wanted it to or was uneffective?
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:28 GMT
#142
thats why im trying a different approach, (plus there is no way i can respond to everything like i tried to last game)

im trying to think more than i post.
Mafia :D
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 24 2013 02:29 GMT
#143
On June 24 2013 11:21 Xzavier wrote:
jesus somebody went a long way to post alot of nothing xD

Lighten up bud, I was trying to make some conversation and get things started.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:30 GMT
#144
On June 24 2013 11:20 Xzavier wrote:
yup, im watching fullmetal alchemist then between episodes or every 5-10 min refreshing this.

Okay i lie, i have 2 windows open and im spamming F5 on this page.


Right now conversation is just picking up. Its smalltalk lol, then somebody is like: HEY FUCK YOU ##VOTE

then shit gets real

Why did you feel the need to say what you're doing right now?
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:31 GMT
#145
witch-hunting



witch-hunting everywhere....



i feel the need to say everything that pops into my mind. obviously
Mafia :D
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#146
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?


It was looked as spam/scummy in the obs chat so I cut it out.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#147
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#148
On June 24 2013 11:36 Chromatically wrote:
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?


hes the sexiest motherfucker alive. obviously. also town.
Mafia :D
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 24 2013 02:42 GMT
#149
On June 24 2013 11:36 Chromatically wrote:
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?


Spamming more than I like.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 02:43 GMT
#150
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?

I noticed that too.
This is Spicy's first post in his previous game, where he was town:
On June 06 2013 10:47 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the most important things I've learned about day 1 is to make sure that town is active and posting USEFUL information and not just fluff. Lurkers do nothing to help town and are scummy. As such, I will and I encourage others, to pressure lurkers to post.

That is quite a lot more content than his first post in this thread:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:43 GMT
#151
On June 24 2013 11:38 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:36 Chromatically wrote:
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?


hes the sexiest motherfucker alive. obviously. also town.

Of course, he's the second sexiest. What do you think about our other friend Spicy?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
June 24 2013 02:46 GMT
#152
Ugh, let's avoid the 'should we lynch lurkers talk' shall we?

I'm gonna go ahead and post the play I had written earlier this week analyzing this game from a pro-town perspective. If any of my analysis is off-base, please jump in and steer me back on track.

Pre-written segment starts now:

Alright, chums. First let me state that in NO WAY is the following message a call for a mass claim. If you are the Parity Cop (assuming you even exist), DO NOT SAY SO. In fact, if you're our town's parity cop, it's probably better if you appear to ignore what I'm about to say completely. Same goes for Trackers and Watchers. DO NOT CLAIM. But read carefully, because you are a big part of whether we succeed or fail (whether we follow my plan or not).

Now everyone, pay attention: Looking over the roles, the extremely juicy pro-town potential jumped right off the page at me, as I hope it did to many of you. Trackers can tell us if a person visits someone. Pretty good, but not nearly as good as the Watcher, who can pick a person and sees all who visit them. Obviously, this means we can try to guess the guy who's going to be mafia-killed, and we have a couple shots at seeing if he either gets visited, or manage to Track the mafia member who happens to be tagged to do the deed. Not great odds on either, but still better than nothing.

My plan utilizes each role to their maximum potential. Because we are not guaranteed to have a Tracker, Watcher, or even a Parity Cop, it's important that for the roles we DO get, we use them efficiently. The Watcher needs to guess the target they think will be mafia-killed tonight. This is up to your judgement, but I'll make a recommendation later today.

The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.

I can elaborate further, but I feel like you can all piece together whatever holes are out there without me holding your hand even further. This is an extremely pro-town set-up (assuming there aren't a bunch of red herrings in which case, Hi I'm sponge, and I just gave you all the book on me.) and I'd like to move fast before mafia can organize their thoughts in their private little forum. If we move fast, and force independent action, they lose one of their many advantages.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:47 GMT
#153
On June 24 2013 11:43 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?

I noticed that too.
This is Spicy's first post in his previous game, where he was town:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 10:47 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the most important things I've learned about day 1 is to make sure that town is active and posting USEFUL information and not just fluff. Lurkers do nothing to help town and are scummy. As such, I will and I encourage others, to pressure lurkers to post.

That is quite a lot more content than his first post in this thread:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

You don't buy his explanation?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 02:48 GMT
#154
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:47 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:43 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?

I noticed that too.
This is Spicy's first post in his previous game, where he was town:
On June 06 2013 10:47 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the most important things I've learned about day 1 is to make sure that town is active and posting USEFUL information and not just fluff. Lurkers do nothing to help town and are scummy. As such, I will and I encourage others, to pressure lurkers to post.

That is quite a lot more content than his first post in this thread:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

You don't buy his explanation?

I am reading through the obs for that game now. I am very new to Mafia and used the recent Roulette game as my introduction to forum mafia, so I did not follow the previous newbie games. I will post again when I have spent more time reading that obs.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 02:49 GMT
#155
Grr I need to preview before I post, messed that quote up. I am so used to being able to edit
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 24 2013 02:49 GMT
#156
Feel free to pm either WoS or myself with rules questions. I will do my best to answer in a timely fashion.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:52 GMT
#157
I highly recommend that no one claim.

HS, if a nosy neighbor claims, then scum can either nk them (and thus waste the tracker's action), or treat it as a VT claim and have a reduced pool of possible blues to snipe.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 24 2013 02:53 GMT
#158
On June 24 2013 11:43 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?

I noticed that too.
This is Spicy's first post in his previous game, where he was town:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 10:47 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the most important things I've learned about day 1 is to make sure that town is active and posting USEFUL information and not just fluff. Lurkers do nothing to help town and are scummy. As such, I will and I encourage others, to pressure lurkers to post.

That is quite a lot more content than his first post in this thread:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone


Sheeping off of others opinions already?

Also heres the QT chat i was referring too. Though i dont know how to post to a specific QT box
Heres the QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/YXgCU77iVMsa
and its posts: 11, 16, 21.

Spicydinosaur
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18810769


Fluffity fluff fluff fluff, I will, Fluffity fluff.
vote spicy as not the towniest MOFU in thread.



umasi xzav and yvanna are town
random guy that thinks hes better than he is and fferyl are probably town but not that much

i'd lynch firere and spicy for now
not sure about the third




spicy should be killed with fire



Furthermore you should look back at my other 2 games if you want to see what my openings were. They too were different.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:55 GMT
#159
Or a framer/scum tracker not carrying the hit can claim NN if they see that no one else has done so, and become "confirmed town".

HS, who's scum?
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 24 2013 02:58 GMT
#160
On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.


Whoa, whoa, slow down there bud, the Nosy Neighbor should NOT be claiming right now. Have a look at the rolecard again.

On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
Alpha 5 -- Nosy Neighbour
You visit a random person at night and do nothing, but can be tracked there and watched visiting. You are aware of this behaviour, but are not able to stop it or even control it.


See that? The part where it says RANDOM? The dude can't pick who he visits, so there's no point in revealing him. He might be visiting someone who isn't mafia-killed, sure, but he could just as easily be one of the mafia roles that doesn't kill. I appreciate the sentiment, but your plan is ill-advised and short-sighted.

You also are under the assumption that we have a tracker and that this tracker is going to reveal on day 2 to confirm the nosy neighbor as town. It's all very presumptuous and ill-conceived.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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