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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 09:42 GMT
#1581
Isnt the above kinda what adam is doing?
No gg, No skill.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 24 2013 09:45 GMT
#1582
On June 24 2013 18:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Isnt the above kinda what adam is doing?


Adam is interacting with the thread.

GK is popping in, posting stuff, and then popping out.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 24 2013 09:47 GMT
#1583
There's also the fact that Adam was one of Rayn's scumreads right before his sudden demise. That's some points in Adam's favor.

Anyway, I'll double check all of this tomorrow.

For now, read through GK's filter and gimme an opinion.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 09:48 GMT
#1584
Adam has 2 page filter, I would say he is popping in and popping out too.
Adam isnt really asking questions too, and some of his stuff seems a bit too many words for what he is saying.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 09:48 GMT
#1585
You played in Duel mini mafia, I am getting TOTALLY different vibes from that game.
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 24 2013 09:56 GMT
#1586
I like where you are going with this Hapa.

ShiaoPi felt genuine when we were discussing things earlier. I am reasonably certain I do not want to lynch him today. His desire to trade himself seems crazy at first glance, especially if hes not certain that GK is scum, but its town crazy By contrast, GK was certain that ShiaoPi was the last scum, but also left himself an out 'in case ShiaoPi somehow flipped town for some really odd reason' (then he would reconsider his town reads).

Going by vote analysis alone, it would make sense that GK is also scum, as Rayn let his vote waste on OO rather than swing it over to GK after I threw mine on to get that wagon over the line and save DP. Granted, its entirely possible Rayn was AFK for the lynch.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 24 2013 09:57 GMT
#1587
On June 24 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
You played in Duel mini mafia, I am getting TOTALLY different vibes from that game.


I replaced into this game with 50+ pages to read in 40 minutes, made what looks like a bad vote and am feeling frigging lost Oats, put yourself in my place for a minute.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 10:04 GMT
#1588
On June 24 2013 18:57 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
You played in Duel mini mafia, I am getting TOTALLY different vibes from that game.


I replaced into this game with 50+ pages to read in 40 minutes, made what looks like a bad vote and am feeling frigging lost Oats, put yourself in my place for a minute.

how long has it been since then?
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 24 2013 10:10 GMT
#1589
around 36 hours.

I do not get the same feel reading a game that I wasn't in than when I do playing in one. It clouds my reads. My obs reads are notoriously shit as a result. Trying to form legitimate scum reads was difficult this game, made especially difficult by the caliber of the players that rolled scum. So I focused on what I could do, find town reads, be as open and clear with my thought process as I could. I have been extremely upfront with the fact that my scum reads were lacking this game.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 24 2013 10:16 GMT
#1590
What you're feeling as 'different' from duel mafia is simple - confidence.

The second Dieno stepped into the thread in Duel, I had him bagged, Kierathi soon after. I was confident almost to a fault, I led a crusade against two reasonably townie looking players because I was running on such a high from dragging down two scum. No one was anywhere near that obvious this game, at least not to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 10:21 GMT
#1591
On June 24 2013 19:10 Adam4167 wrote:
around 36 hours.

I do not get the same feel reading a game that I wasn't in than when I do playing in one. It clouds my reads. My obs reads are notoriously shit as a result. Trying to form legitimate scum reads was difficult this game, made especially difficult by the caliber of the players that rolled scum. So I focused on what I could do, find town reads, be as open and clear with my thought process as I could. I have been extremely upfront with the fact that my scum reads were lacking this game.

legitimate as opposed to false?
Also how do you know the quality of the scumteam? Like sure you thought DP and Rayn was town, but NOW?

I dont see you even TRYING to get scumreads.
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 24 2013 10:26 GMT
#1592
I know the quality of the scum team because two of them have flipped and I had both of them leaning town.

If you're going to take everything I say and turn it around from a scummy perspective, then there's really not much else we have to say to each other.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 11:57 GMT
#1593
On June 24 2013 19:26 Adam4167 wrote:
I know the quality of the scum team because two of them have flipped and I had both of them leaning town.

If you're going to take everything I say and turn it around from a scummy perspective, then there's really not much else we have to say to each other.

scumhunt and you are off my scumlist.
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2013 15:15 GMT
#1594
Too cool for school Coag, too cool for school.

So, I'm buying into the possibility that GK is scum, or rather, that wagons could have been split between 2 scum because pg38 ~ 42ish show rayn making a very good effort in trying to diffuse the DP wagon and start anything else possible (mainly yamato / OO / me). He bounced out at pg 42, and GK wagon built up steam starting around 48.

The end.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
June 24 2013 15:18 GMT
#1595
I've honestly grown pretty tired of this game, and all the bullshit it entails.

Every. Fucking. Game. People want to lynch me for stuff I do day one. Regardless of alignment. And said stuff just carries over endlessly until either the game ends or I am lynched. Sorry Marv, but I'm never ever ever reading role PM's day 1 ever again.


So here's the situation:

I think there's merit to everyone being town at this point, including Shao. So we have nine people, and among them I'd assume one scum (two would be a bit odd with 2 3P, which should go without saying). As such, we determine who to lynch and in what order today.

We can afford three mislynches, or 4 tries at this in total.

If we take Corazon to be "modconfirmed town," and assume that everyone on DP wagon is town, we're left with this situation.: We lynch into Oats, Adam, Shao, Hapa. It's just a matter of order.

Honestly, at this point, I'll probably just sheep whatever Obvious/Corazon/Coag/Sloosh come to a consensus on. I'm kind of worn out this game, and I don't need to be some kind of master scumhunter this game. We lynch between those four targets the next four days we should win.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 24 2013 15:18 GMT
#1596
sloosh thoughts on Adam and actual analysis of GK's behavior?
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2013 15:18 GMT
#1597
p.s.
I haven't actually read GK / Shiao's newer posts yet, I just saw the flip and reread that stuff. I'll be back in ~6ish hours to chat (but y'all know how flaky I can be, so don't hold your bowels ^^)
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
June 24 2013 15:20 GMT
#1598
Some food for thought too:

I'm the jailkeeper. I jailed Yamato last night.

May not be the optimal time, but whatevs you guys figure out what the fuck it means that Yamato died the way he did even with my action on him. I'm out for now. cya.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#1599
From the role pm:

3) Drug their food with a poison that only kills fake C.I.D. Investigators and that bypasses any form of protection.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2013 15:25 GMT
#1600
On June 25 2013 00:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
sloosh thoughts on Adam and actual analysis of GK's behavior?

Adam looked decent considering the rayn interaction. Rereading some of GK's posts right now
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