EPTAlso speculation. Which are basically those 2 posts.
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Oatsmaster
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Also speculation. Which are basically those 2 posts. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I mean its like 2 votes on me already IIRC. Sure we are still early into the day but I am saying that we should lynch into adam or gk preferrably gk, but if that is not gonna happen because you think me scummier, fine lynch me but get gk next after you see my town flip. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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On June 24 2013 15:17 Oatsmaster wrote: town reads are the easiest thing to fabricate as scum because you know you are right. Also speculation. Which are basically those 2 posts. It is also opening up your thought process for town, of course townreads are easy to do as scum, I did them all day in I Swear too, but these "speculations" are striking me as townie. Which makes him townier than GK. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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what if that exchange with rayn was just to start distancing themselves as 2 last remaining scum but then coag went lol, gotcha already on them? Sounded more legit in my head then in the thread now, but yeah that's how fuckign lost I am in terms of this game right now | ||
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Adam4167
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I do not think a scum ShiaoPi would be giving me a town read of right here. Nor was I expecting GK to do it when he did, if he were actually scum. Something fucking fishy going on this game. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Like that post says people are town, then its left with you and GK. Then since you both cant be scum, someone else in his townreads is scum. BUT THEN HE SAYS THEY ARE ALL TOWN. SO ITS NOT USEFUL. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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On June 24 2013 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote: i like doing stuff like that as scum cause its easy to make a pretty long post that doesnt really say anything. Like that post says people are town, then its left with you and GK. Then since you both cant be scum, someone else in his townreads is scum. BUT THEN HE SAYS THEY ARE ALL TOWN. SO ITS NOT USEFUL. so we lynch adam? but he is fucking townier than gk | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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ShiaoPi
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Sloosh is gone yet again and OO has been gone forever as well. Let me go reread the filters. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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I like the posts he does, so besides the lack of activity there is like not much. Also of note is that he tried directing medics, I am not sure if that is alignment indicative as he wanted ppl to prot ange, which obviously failed. But would scum try to discourage medics on ange by trying to direct them towards her? Ugh, Wifom anyway, sloosh looks okayish and add the godfather vote again he is pretty town. On ObviousOne: OO and DP were targeting each other fairly early in d1, so I think it makes no sense for him to be scum. Fuck it besides activity and his entry with policying his townread on oats there is nothing that stands out to me as scummy. He is town -.- Both should get back into the thread to post though.... On June 24 2013 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote: but i just said why the posts you pointed out arent townier. :/ Point is I think they are townie... Also I am basically doing the same thing, since I have no fucking idea who the last scum is. Best bet imo is GK | ||
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ShiaoPi
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I mean there has been some inconsistency this daycycle: Look at these: Beginning of Day2: On June 24 2013 08:54 Hapahauli wrote: Right now I think I'm between lynching GK and Shiao. Adam's play has seemed fairly genuine to me. It's a bit of a gut-read, but one I'm comfortable with for now. On June 24 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah dude, I agree with you. Oats is town. You don't have to preach to the choir. On June 24 2013 08:59 Hapahauli wrote: As for who to vote, I'm not placing anything until I hear what they have to say. Despite the fact that we're ahead, lynching the last scum can be extremely difficult (harder to draw connections, especially when two scumbuddies die early). Best to take this one calm and slow. GK reenters the thread: On June 24 2013 10:07 Hapahauli wrote: @ GK Is Shiao really the only scumread you have in this game? Because "I agree with all of you regarding your town reads, Shiao has to be scum" is a bit hollow. GK answers with basically the same thing and between the posts we also have oats saying he wants to lynch into GK/adam/Hapa: On June 24 2013 10:28 Hapahauli wrote: Can you convince me that Oats is town again? He keeps trying my patience. Note that there is no more mention of the "hollow" reasoning of gk, but just oats as response. Now we are here: On June 24 2013 13:55 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote Shiao Not getting the bad vibes from GK What happened to letting all return before putting your vote? Now he is gone (like the rest of the thread seemingly  )I mean I know he got pushed to oblivion by rayn, but what if that was a bus, I mean the case of rayn was not that strong and I highly doubt anyone would have been onboard for a hapa lynch d2. I also admit that this is mostly pretty weak, but d2 hapa seems off in comparison to d1. Maybe it is just me becoming paranoid since the reads do not add up etc., but its weird as jackshit. Cannot really call hapa scum for just these d2 posts, but if he does not get shot soon hang him. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I mean rayn seems to have tried his best to get hapa lynched, but as Hapa says, its really hard to lynch him. And although there are certain posts that make me feel bad, in GENERAL, i get the feeling from I swear, but not very much though. What if this is his breakout scumgame? :o | ||
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ShiaoPi
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On June 24 2013 15:24 Adam4167 wrote: Mhmm, this is exactly what I was afraid of. I do not think a scum ShiaoPi would be giving me a town read of right here. Nor was I expecting GK to do it when he did, if he were actually scum. Something fucking fishy going on this game. So adam what now? Who to lynch in your opinion? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Can't say I'd expect something like this out of a scum Shiao. I'll have to do a read-through tomorrow. One thing that crossed my mind is that the last hostile party might be a traitor, which would open up some avenues. I'm not sure how likely this is (given that Cora claimed RB, which looks like a scum RB). But if there's no NK tomorrow, we need to start looking into that possibility. As for GK/Shiao, I've gotten townie vibes fromt hem, but nothing to override other town-reads I have yet. Anyway, let's see what GK has to say about all of this. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
lol. And what is your current read on adam? considering you asked shiao, i assume you have something new? | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 24 2013 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote: go to sleep hapa. lol. No! Eh yeah I will right now actually. And what is your current read on adam? considering you asked shiao, i assume you have something new? Nothing new on Adam after a brief skim of his filter just now. A deeper read is a project for tomorrow morning. That being said, Shiao is pulling off the paranoid townie real well. The fact that he's not just settling for the "process of elimination GK lynch" and is looking into other players (such as myself) as well is very townie. GK's approach looks a lot worse, with which he seems a bit too comfortable with the situation. ... Adam also I believe to be town, as he shows an active involvement in the game. I'm obvtown. His read on Adam seems scarcely informed. Adam is involved, and I tend to believe from his posting sounds townie, but the whole "he's actively involved, town, ez" seems a bit too... easy. That, and the "I'm Obvtown" thing rubs me the wrong way. Because he's clearly not, or he wouldn't be in this position as one of the two major lynch options for today. Anywho, I'd lean towards GK over Shiao at this point. Adam is a project for tomorrow. Yourself as well. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Of all the town-reads I have, the one I have on him is by far the least robust and the least justified. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
But yeah i agree with the analysis about the GK and Shiao issue. | ||
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Hapahauli
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1) How few questions he asks to other players after Day 1. GoodKarma does poke and prod a couple of players with random questions (mostly Shiao) on Day 1. However post-lynch, he really hasn't attempted to engage with anyone in the thread. He comes in, plops some commentary, and leaves without ever pursuing his reads. This is literally the only question he has asked since the lynch: Corazon, what is your read on Hapa? Huh. 2) It feels like his analysis posting empty "mass" and "drivel". One thing about the structure of his posts and analysis since the lynch is that his thoughts are often "dumped" into a post, are very rambly, are very poorly formatted... etc. The structure of his posts are really hard to read, and are almost designed to not take seriously. For example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453¤tpage=62#1235 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453¤tpage=69#1365 Like these two posts are essentially the culmination of him catching up on a giant block of posting. Perhaps this is baseless and I'm overthinking this a bit, but it just seems like he's posting in a manner that's just asking for us not to take him seriously. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
He's done so little this game, and everything I thought was a town-tell in the past in his filter is not robust. I've felt like his analysis was bad all game, and that's pretty classic for a scum GK. ##Vote Goodkarma He is the lynch for today. | ||
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