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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:28 GMT
#1191
You are spending more time defending yourself about not making a case on me than the time it would actually take for you to make a case on me.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:31 GMT
#1194
Yep, so Adam and Cora are here.

You have an audience and "people to convince", so convince them.

No more excuses, right?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:32 GMT
#1195
This game is so much more fun when you're screaming at someone :3
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:36 GMT
#1199
On June 23 2013 13:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
hapa is wrong.
Can we lynch hapa.

THERE CASE. HAPPY?


I can't tell if you're serious.

But if for some reason you are, I mislynched the hell out of you in RTP when we were both town, and almost shot you in I Swear when we were both town.

Dafuq?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:37 GMT
#1200
Anyway if you're not going to be serious about me, it's fairly safe to assume that there are 3-4 scum in this game.

Therefore, even if you think I'm scum (for god knows why), have to have a scum-buddy or two. Who are my scumbuddies and why?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:40 GMT
#1204
On June 23 2013 13:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv cause he has bad reasoning for yamato being town.
Coag cause he is NOT USEFUL. IN THE SLIGHTEST.


Regarding marv, what about his town-read on Yamato was bad?

Regarding Coag, how do you explain the fact that he voted DP, and is literally never useful as town or scum?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:41 GMT
#1207
On June 23 2013 13:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
But if for some reason you are, I mislynched the hell out of you in RTP when we were both town, and almost shot you in I Swear when we were both town.

So why do you think you are right this time?
I mean you have a track history of getting my alignment wrong.


Well given your completely beyond retarded approach to being suspicious of me, I don't think I'm wrong.

Like you usually have bad reasons to think I'm mafia, but in this game, you literally have no reasons beyond a couple of joke posts.

What the hell am I supposed to think when you're making every effort to not take this seriously?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:44 GMT
#1210
On June 23 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 13:40 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 13:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv cause he has bad reasoning for yamato being town.
Coag cause he is NOT USEFUL. IN THE SLIGHTEST.


Regarding marv, what about his town-read on Yamato was bad?

Regarding Coag, how do you explain the fact that he voted DP, and is literally never useful as town or scum?

oh he voted for DP. Coag town.


aksdhfakslfawlekfajdfasjdhfkajshf

Why are you not reading the thread? You were explicitly attacking me for not voting DP. How on earth did you miss that about Coag?

He said he was acting like normal town yamato. When he wasnt. When you said he wasnt.


So the only reason that both marv and I are scum is because we both at the time thought Yamato was town based on meta. Nevermind the fact that we both have large game-histories with Yamato as well as conversation-histories (skype, podcast, etc).

Like honestly, how is a town-read even alignment indicative? Hell speaking of poorly justified town-reads...
On June 21 2013 15:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

Any other reasons... at all?
coag makes me laugh, hes town
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:45 GMT
#1211
EBWOP:
On June 21 2013 15:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

coag makes me laugh, hes town


Any other reasons... at all?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:52 GMT
#1213
On June 23 2013 13:46 cDgCorazon wrote:
So when Oats flips scum, will this count as the first scum I've ever caught?


Sure why not. Team effort bro.

Though in seriousness, I'm constantly thinking to myself if scum would actually be this bad at answering questions pertaining to scum-reads.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:56 GMT
#1216
On June 23 2013 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
You take this game too seriously hapa.

Now does this feel like I swear or not.
hmmm..

Also when marv flips scum, I CAUGHT HIM.


If you're not going to take this seriously, don't blame me when everyone votes you tomorrow.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:57 GMT
#1219
On June 23 2013 13:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 13:56 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
You take this game too seriously hapa.

Now does this feel like I swear or not.
hmmm..

Also when marv flips scum, I CAUGHT HIM.


If you're not going to take this seriously, don't blame me when everyone votes you tomorrow.

This means?


It means that you should start scumhunting or start dying.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 04:59 GMT
#1222
On June 23 2013 13:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
No hapa, you said 'if you're not gonna take this'
this meaning the game?
Or this meaning pressure? Or this meaning what?


The game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:02 GMT
#1226
On June 23 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Can you ask me some specific questions?


What is your complete read on myself and marv? Is there anything else other than our "bad-town reads" on Yamato?

Given that your Coag suspicion went away in like 5 seconds, who else would you consider a scum-read?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:03 GMT
#1228
On June 23 2013 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa, the reason you think Im scum is because I cant explain why I think you are scum, Associative to DP and meta. Right?


Not anymore. You're constantly refusing to substantiate any reads on myself and any other player you have scum-reads on.

Hell if you can't explain why I'm scum, why the fuck do you think I'm scum?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:05 GMT
#1229
On June 23 2013 14:01 Adam4167 wrote:
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools.


We're not lynching Oats unless we think he's scum. Period.

Do you think Oats is scum? Also presumably you caught-up with the thread now that you're posting - who are your other scum-reads?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:15 GMT
#1232
On June 23 2013 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:05 Adam4167 wrote:
On June 23 2013 14:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kush flipped town in smurf.
I dont get where you are going with this.
So far, in the examples you gave, bad people were town. Where do you get the idea that I would flip scum then?


I'm well aware what he flipped. He made himself intentionally unreadable, as you are doing now. I'm done with unreadable. If you don't want to play the game, don't sign up.

so you are pissed at me cause you are bad and dont know how to read the 6 pages of filter day 1 where everyone thought I was town.

Huh.

Hapa, im not sure. which is why i didnt POST ANYTHING.


What do you mean "not sure"? What's all this crap then?

On June 23 2013 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
hapa is bad or scum.
probably scum.


Whoop.

Why?

1. Consolidation is a good thing.
2. Meta needs to be compared with my scum games too.
3. Early d1 and late d1 reads change. I did say that I thought DP was town. Also I was asking marv how he thought yamato was town and I pointed out the scummy stuff... CONTEXT BOY.

On June 23 2013 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol why you give up?
BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM.

Anyway yeah Scum is Hapa and Marv currently.



Don't backtrack on me about "not being sure". You weren't acting that way, and when I called you out on it, you showed up with nothing.

What is your read on me?
What was the purpose in posting all that shit above about me being scum if you don't think I'm scum?

It sounds like you tried to buddy Rayn's case and now you're back-peddling when I smacked you in the face for it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:19 GMT
#1234
On June 23 2013 14:15 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 14:01 Adam4167 wrote:
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools.


We're not lynching Oats unless we think he's scum. Period.

Do you think Oats is scum? Also presumably you caught-up with the thread now that you're posting - who are your other scum-reads?


I am reasonably caught up.

Right now I want to see more out of GoodKarma, ShioaPi and Raynpelikoneet. Oats would be on this list as well if he weren't playing like a dick.


So presumably you find each person scummy to some degree. Can you elaborate your thoughts on each? I'm most interested in your thoughts on Rayn.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:38 GMT
#1236
@ GK

There's really not much in that post I can draw from, but I await to see what you have for us when you catch up.

That being said, I want to address one thing:
As for Hapa, it doesn't sit well with me how he seems to still be of such a conviction that I'm scum, when scumteam would have every motivation to push my mislynch over losing DP on day 1. It also doesn't sit well with me how he's spent much of his focus on those that weren't on my wagon, when those specifically on my wagon is really something that deserves a lot of attention.

The thing about the DP lynch is that there wasn't much vocal opposition to it. Even players on your wagon (such as marv and I) were perfectly happy to see DP hang. You say that scum wanted to resist the DP wagon and want to do everything in their power to stop it, but where does that resistance come from?

For me, the key to figuring out this game is your allignment. If you're town, then players like Adam and Shiao catapult to the top of the lynch list.

However you've done very little to demonstrate that you're town, or even care about this game. You posted a case on Shiao and fucked off without having ever pushed it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 05:50 GMT
#1239
Anyway, it looks like I've gotten everything out of Oats that I will for a while.

I'm not as sure that he's scum anymore. He's responding fairly quickly and not showing very much guilt while doing so. While his answers are incoherent and unprepared, they do make sense provided that he was calling me scum in order to "poke" me and see how I'd react.

I still find him "poking" somewhat uncharacteristic for his town-game (he's usually much more direct/forceful with his reads), but I'll need to sleep on it and see what his actual reads end up being before I make a final judgement call.
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