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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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For voting the guy writing in rhymes. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 21 2013 13:49 DarthPunk wrote: Calm the fuck down. Jesus. Hapa is like the most obvious scum ever. WE don't need to overreact off one throwaway post. PLus it's his first post of the game and oates was being silly. Seriously though, what the fuck is going on with everyone this game? Yamato was totally joking ya know >> I think. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 21 2013 13:57 yamato77 wrote: Hapa and I know each other well. Don't concern yourself with what goes on between us. dude, you said over Skype a couple of days ago that you'd roleclaim to me you haven't roleclaimed yet, what gives? T_T @ Oats On June 21 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote: cora is town because what dp? I'm not going to make the same mistake as last game and say that Cora is 100% town. Scum are capable of early-game sheannanies like that. However his behavior so far is indicative of a fearless townie. He's posting rhyming lyrics for crying out loud. We'll see if he can keep up with his behavior of course, but so far so good from him. That being said, nothing you're jumping on is remotely scummy. Like, how on earth is a policy lynch on Marv alignment indicative? | ||
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On June 21 2013 13:59 Sylencia wrote: Until goodkarma was scum last game yet no one listened to us :D I'm not saying that Oats never gets things right. However he has a propensity of locking onto obv-townies, especially town-leaders. I firmly believe that his behavior, especially on Day 1, does more harm than help for the town. I don't mind aggression, but he just locks on to people, calls them scum, constantly antagonizes them, refuses to listen to any logic whatsoever. For example, how long did he tunnel me in that game? I consider myself a fairly level-headed player, and I was seriously contemplating shooting him with my mayor shot solely because of his disruptive presence. Or him tunneling obv-town Palmar in Red Team's Prize. The list goes on. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:06 yamato77 wrote: I said I would breadcrumb my alignment to you. But since you're scum, you know my alignment already. But if you're blue, let me know so I can blue-snipe you. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Hapa. I only tunnel day 1. And only in selected games. So its not like I do it all the time or the whole game. Every game. Every day. I don't think I've ever advocated a policy lynch on a player. Ever. That's how disruptive and anti-town I find your tunneling antics to be. DP meta please I don't have a very firm grasp on his meta - he's one of the best scum-players on TL. I have some ways to read him though, but revealing my hand now is incredibly counter-productive to those efforts. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Eh. Not going to vote an obv-townie. | ||
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We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far? | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote: Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point. Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote: It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already. This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum? | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote: It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative. So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice. Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:41 ShiaoPi wrote: why is yamato so pro at looking scummy as shit regardless of what alignment he is? anyone tell me? Or am I remembering wrong? Yamato is pretty readable. He doesn't get mislynched as town very often, and when he does, it's often pretty terrible. I'll explain if/when I make a scum/town case on him. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:41 yamato77 wrote: I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer. Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past. You have town-reads on SloOsh, Sylencia, and ObviousOne already? This needs some 'splainin. | ||
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I agree with Yamato that that post of yours is incredibly scummy. On June 21 2013 14:41 ShiaoPi wrote: why is yamato so pro at looking scummy as shit regardless of what alignment he is? anyone tell me? Or am I remembering wrong? I mean what is the purpose of this? "Oh dudes Yamato is totes scum, but I could be remembering wrong." You seem more interested in criticizing his play rather than calling him scummy. Hell you're not really calling him scummy >> | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:48 yamato77 wrote: Sloosh and Sylencia are people to ignore until later in the game. Sloosh is obvious as town and absolutely lurk-fucking-tastic as mafia. No need to concern myself when time will tell with him. Sylencia might be a coinflip either way, to be honest, so I ignore him until he flips or something. Ok, that's fair. OO's townread of Oats is ballsy at that point. I don't expect a scum OO to jump into the game calling someone under fire town. Offering a town-read and calling him a good policy-lynch isn't exactly a "ballsy" opening. Coag is worth worrying about because I have no idea how he plays, but he's obviously here, reading the thread, just not very active except when mentioned. I really don't understand why you equate null with "worry-some" | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:52 Coagulation wrote: Yamato can go on sideboard for now. I want to see you guys do the marv thing over because it was dropped entirely too fucking fast and conveniently. How is dropping a joke tunnel on a TL vet "fast and convenient"? We've had our fun with marv, and now it's time to move onto more productive things, such as thoughts on players that have actually... you know... posted? Regarding Oats I'm really, really sad that no one has asked me about my unvote of Oats. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:59 goodkarma wrote: @Hapa: Why you unvote Oats? Because his play so far has been based on antagonizing every single person in the thread. There's no scum survival instinct in his play. He's playing like a paranoid townie. Which is why I have severe objections to how you interpreted his play so far: On June 21 2013 14:55 goodkarma wrote: I'd say that right now I'm most suspicious of Oats. He's called multiple people scum already, including: Cora, Hapa, DP, and has sheeped onto Yamato. But what I've failed to see from him is conviction in his reads. This is something I've seen from Oatsmaster in the past, even this early into the game, and I'm not seeing it here. Oats, care to explain your current thoughts on DP and Hapa? I have no idea how you associate any of this with scum-behavior. Firstly, "lack of conviction" seems the exact opposite of his play thusfar. Sure he doesn't have great justifications for his reads (which is normal on Day 1), but he seems to have as much "conviction" as possible. Secondly, calling multiple people scum is completely non-alignment indicative, and might even be a town-tell (paranoia, natural suspicion, etc). You are holding "townie conviction" to an immeasurably high standard. If there's anyone that has "conviction" about their reads so far, it's Oats. And hell it's early Day 1 - are you expecting the guy to have one clear scumread already or something? | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:07 Oatsmaster wrote: coag makes me laugh, hes town While I'd use this heuristic for most players, Coag is known as more of a troll, so this is normal for him as either alignment methinks. | ||
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