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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
lol we got godfather day1?!
fucking yeah, unless there is like some weird drastic stuff ange and sloosh are the towniest guys around now.
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On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Show nested quote +Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Show nested quote +Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: Show nested quote +I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious".
Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town.
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I wanted to ask you that because you brought that up yourself and i do not think it's anything concrete as you just said - GK is alive.
Do you think it's more probable that there were two scum wagons at the end of the day 1 than only one?
Also if GK is in fact mafia, do you think ShiaoPi could be mafia. Like, thay did nothing than attack each other on D1?
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On June 24 2013 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to ask you that because you brought that up yourself and i do not think it's anything concrete as you just said - GK is alive.
Do you think it's more probable that there were two scum wagons at the end of the day 1 than only one?
Also if GK is in fact mafia, do you think ShiaoPi could be mafia. Like, thay did nothing than attack each other on D1?
Is this @me?
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On June 24 2013 05:11 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa, let's talk about something else than D1 for a change. You said a lot about solving this game revolves around flipping GK, and if he flipped town you would then look into ShiaoPi and Adam. I can get the ShiaoPi part, but why Adam? And do you actually think GK is mafia or what were you trying to say there? That we should lynch him to have more information on ShiaoPi/Adam? That doesn't really sound like a reason to lynch someone. I was more throwing names out there, and not necessarily concrete examples. For example if GK is mafia, there's an overwhelming chance that the mafia was fairly lurky and passive. Thus the candidates to look into would be very passive players who hadn't had much influence in the game. So Shiao/Adam fit that bill somewhat, though it's not a complete list by any means - after all, why speculate about specifics until I actually know more about GK?
Ermmmm sorry I butchered that a bit and forgot my argument a bit.If GK is town, mafia would probably be a passive influence on the GK wagon (players like Adam, Shaio, and maybe marv). If GK is mafia, players on the GK wagon look much better, and it's worth to look into players either avoiding both wagons all together OR those that were extremely passive (also now that I think about it, would probably include Adam and Shaio as well).
Regarding Adam and Shaio specificly, I do have reasons to doubt they're mafia. Adam has come across as fairly genuine so far (even with his limited posting). Generally when he's posting as mafia, he just comes across as sounding terrible, illogical, and desperate. I don't get that feeling this game. As for Shiao, I posted my thoughts (directed at GK) just above. Given his mafia performance last game, it doesn't make very much sense for him to slink back into this lurky/wishy-washy game if he rolled mafia again. His wishy-washyness is a null-tell at best I think, and perhaps even a town tell.
Oh what the shit this came across as really wierd.
Ignore the part that I striked above. I thought I posted it for some reason, but it turns out I didn't and I confused myself.
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On June 24 2013 05:16 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious". Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town.
Ange is obviously town and you are a prime lynch candidate.
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On June 24 2013 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to ask you that because you brought that up yourself and i do not think it's anything concrete as you just said - GK is alive.
Do you think it's more probable that there were two scum wagons at the end of the day 1 than only one?
Also if GK is in fact mafia, do you think ShiaoPi could be mafia. Like, thay did nothing than attack each other on D1?
EBWOP: This was to Hapa.
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On June 24 2013 05:16 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious". Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town.
RE the bolded - she kinda is though in this situation.
Not only did she vote DP, but the circumstances she did it under make the vote more compelling (and townie). For example, she came back into the thread at the last minute, quickly read it, and then immediately voted DP and pushed the lynch? How could that come from mafia?
The bussing argument is hard to make, and made even harder by her general interest in this game so far.
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Hapa, i agree with you on ShiaoPi, i don't think he's scum. I disagree with Adam though.
Also do you still think Cora is town?
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On June 24 2013 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to ask you that because you brought that up yourself and i do not think it's anything concrete as you just said - GK is alive.
Do you think it's more probable that there were two scum wagons at the end of the day 1 than only one?
Also if GK is in fact mafia, do you think ShiaoPi could be mafia. Like, thay did nothing than attack each other on D1?
I'm 50/50 on GK right now. His recent posting is better, but still has some random questionable elements in it.
As for the GK/Shaio link, I really hate speculating on associations. However I do believe it's possible, as neither of them really pushed each other's lynch. Do I believe it's likely? Well that depends on a host of factors, and I'm not sure enough to give a concrete answer.
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On June 24 2013 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv
Can you explain your reads on sloOsh (seemingly null) and Coag (strong town) respectively?
I have sloOsh at very strong town given how much sense he's making. Also regardless of GK's allignment, he was the hammer vote on the Godfather, which makes me incredibly skeptical of any sort of suspicion on him.
As for Coag, I'm not sure what his behavioral tells are, but his vote on DP actually isn't that important. It wasn't made in the last minute scramble, and almost seemed like a throwaway vote made in the middle of D1 when DP had virtually no chance of getting lynched.
coag actually voting for mafia is one of the strongest tells you're going to get out of him probably. And he still seems more interested than I think he would be as mafia.
And yes, I already conceded slOosh should have been greener than I put him.
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GK, your comments on me are some of the most stupid drivel I've ever seen.
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On June 24 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa, i agree with you on ShiaoPi, i don't think he's scum. I disagree with Adam though.
Do you think Adam is scum, or that he's just not a town-read of yours?
Also do you still think Cora is town?
I have him behaviorally as town, though my town-read has somewhat waned with the whole Ange thing. That, and his town-read on Darth Punk was really really weird looking back at it.
So yeah, a bit of a wishy-washy answer, but I'm assuming I'll have 48 hours with him tomorrow to set things straight.
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On June 24 2013 05:19 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious". Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town. Ange is obviously town and you are a prime lynch candidate.
Way to follow thread sentiment yet again Yamato. Step up your play.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
looks like no quedtions for me wil just buggger off to sleep then and cwlatch up the rest tmr.
good night!!
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On June 24 2013 05:28 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa, i agree with you on ShiaoPi, i don't think he's scum. I disagree with Adam though. Do you think Adam is scum, or that he's just not a town-read of yours? I have him behaviorally as town, though my town-read has somewhat waned with the whole Ange thing. That, and his town-read on Darth Punk was really really weird looking back at it. So yeah, a bit of a wishy-washy answer, but I'm assuming I'll have 48 hours with him tomorrow to set things straight.
Adam is a scumread of mine. I have been trying to read his posts over and over again and i still can't see him having anyone as a suspect.
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EBWOP:
FUCK totally missed my post that turned me to awesome reaver!! aww yeah
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On June 24 2013 05:29 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:19 yamato77 wrote:On June 24 2013 05:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious". Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town. Ange is obviously town and you are a prime lynch candidate. Way to follow thread sentiment yet again Yamato. Step up your play.
ROFL. Get real.
Lynched scum D1. GGNORE
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On June 24 2013 05:34 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 05:29 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 24 2013 05:19 yamato77 wrote:On June 24 2013 05:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 24 2013 04:59 Hapahauli wrote:@ CoraI will say that GK has a really good point about your "read" on Ange. Finally there's his last set of reads, which clearly make no sense from a town perspective. I simply can't visualize a townie making the Ange read in particular, given her contributions to getting scum lynched on DAY 1. All in all, this is a guy with a lot of activity who hasn't had a whole lot of stances on who's scum. He's content to suspect lurkers and be pretty wishy-washy on everyone else. Ange in particular he's gone from "possibly Ange" to "probably not Ange let's not consider lynching her even though I think she's scummy" in very short order when pressured about it. Like what kind of townie does that??? The Oats read I could possibly see a townie making, but everything else just doesn't make sense at all to me from a town perspective. Why would you be suspicious of the person who was the driving force behind the Godfather lynch? And even if you are suspicious, your quotes on her don't come across as very natural... Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. So you mention that you're "really suspicious" of her right here, but then when someone confronts you about it, you immediately back down to a very non-committal stance: I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. And now it's a "bit suspicious". Perhaps I used the wrong wording in how suspicious of Ange I was. Her sub-par D1 play was only revived by the fact that she voted for DP at just the right time. Then she goes on about how I look bad for voting DP which is so ridiculously obvious. I'm still feeling on edge after the DP vote because I thought I was going to be a prime lynch candidate because of it. I considered (and still do, but to a lesser degree) myself to be lynch bait and when she mentioned my name I saw her possibly as scum jumping on the lynchbait. She shouldn't be hailed as an angel just because she voted for DP. Everyone still has to do their part in the town. Ange is obviously town and you are a prime lynch candidate. Way to follow thread sentiment yet again Yamato. Step up your play. ROFL. Get real. Lynched scum D1. GGNORE
That doesn't give you an excuse to do nothing the rest of the game.
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