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On June 21 2013 14:13 ObviousOne wrote: I'm getting town vibes from Oats. He's not begging to be sheeped yet, which from my recent game on OMGUS was the trigger that made me think about his play and ended up with me getting a scum read on him day 1. He did that in Carnival, too, (later in the game) where he was town, but he ended up flipping cop. What I think this means about him is that when he has more information (be it cop or scum), he is much more confident in his pushes even if they are nonsensical. I'm not getting that confidence vibe from Oats here. What you said is mostly correct, however. He is a good policy lynch if it comes down to one. He mucks up the thread with his random interjections. His tunnels can be beyond paranoid. I don't see a reason to think he's mafia. As far as the other stuff in the thread is concerned, the only thing nobody has touched on yet is that Coag popped in just to vote for Marv and then went radio silent. Very back-seat driver. I can't remember any games I've played with him so I want to take a quick look at his older games for the sake of establishing a baseline of expectations. Coag, what do you think about Oats and my thoughts regarding him? Are you going to hit-and-run style post all game? I just don't get how someone could spend a whole paragraph explaining how someone is town and then in the very next sentence be willing to policy lynch that same person. | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote: So much exaggeration GK. So much. Also yamato is totes scum and why isnt everyone voting for him? You could be right. I don't like how he disappeared when the pressure was off. | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:28 DarthPunk wrote: You could be right. I don't like how he disappeared when the pressure was off. NVM it's late in US he probably went to bed. I'm going to wait and see what he does tomorrow. | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote: yamato stays up pretty late normally though. But yeah. What do you think of GK and hapa DP? They are both wait and see people like every game. GK has the ability to completely stomp a scum team, but takes a long while to get going and has recently tended to get bogged down in defending himself rather than catching scum. Nothing really alignment indicative either way at this point to be honest. But when GK get's rolling it should be pretty clear if he is town or not. Scum GK just never gets rolling. Hapa is pretty useless as scum and his cases aren't as good as they are as town. Fairly obvious, he hasn't done anything I have really loved yet. But I am confident he will either be really obv town or be fairly obvious scum later. Hapa is leaning town though because he was upset people didn't ask him about his read on you. That sort of shit screams townie to me. At the moment obvious is like totally ignoring me calling him scummy. Which is weird. Like he flamed me hard in our last game. And his first post where he was willing to policy lynch his town read is scummy as shit. Yamato needs to do something that isn't backflipping off his scum reads that were never scum reads or whatever the fuck he was doing. I know yamato can be valuable as town. So if he isn;' I will push for his lynch. | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:39 cDgCorazon wrote: First of all there is the 180 on me because it was obvious no one agreed with you. Then it was the only semi-explained reasoning for DP, Hapa, and Yamato scum. It doesn't equate to much contribution. I see a whole lot of nothing in your filter, and that's not good seeing as it's three pages already. Do you agree or disagree with what hapa said about townies often being paranoid and casting suspicion on many different people for this reason? | ||
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On June 21 2013 16:36 Ange777 wrote: @DarthPunk: What is your current stance on Oats? Still scummy which in Oats terms means nullish? Because I don't understand why Obvious is called scum for giving Oats a town read while Hapa gets away with the same thing. It's not for giving him a town read. It's for giving him a town read when it is in my opinion incredibly difficult to give oates a town read in the context of the thread at that point in time and then saying he could policy lynch the town read he just spent most of his post establishing. Hapa is someone who gives town reads out to 'bad townies' all the time. It is not alignment indicative with hapa. I believe it is with Obvious. | ||
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On June 21 2013 17:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not scummy in every game Like games when I play scum. Only you can see it man. LOL. That is kind of true actually. Maybe you are just scummy to ME every game. | ||
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On June 21 2013 16:36 Ange777 wrote: @DarthPunk: What is your current stance on Oats? Still scummy which in Oats terms means nullish? Because I don't understand why Obvious is called scum for giving Oats a town read while Hapa gets away with the same thing. Was there a reason behind this question? I was hoping for some discussion but I find it weird you would ask something and then disappear. | ||
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On June 21 2013 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: It makes no sense. In Red Team's Prize i was all in for lynching town!OO for making a case on me that mostly said "rayn is doing this or that, i don't know what does it make him". After that game, when he flipped town, i have mostly ignored him and let other people do the reading on him, as i suck at it. I always find him suspicious regardless of his alignment. But yeah, his comment makes no sense to me. Do you think it makes him scum or not? What do you think about Hapa buying yamato's explanation behind his reads? Also why the hell are you buying it? Do you remember from top of your head which game that was? Yeah pretty much the same. Like in carnival cruise mafia I was sure he was scum in the game and in the obs qt for days. Like to me he always seems super scummy. He could just be bad and be wanting to policy lynch his town read, and he could be scum being wishy washy as fuck. if it was anyone other than obvious, I would want to lynch them for being willing to lynch their major town read. | ||
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On June 21 2013 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: And what was the purpose of asking me about OO in the first place? Because I need help figuring him out. I would think from your response that that would be obvious. | ||
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Did his explanations not seem genuine to you? Like I don't get how you could be so confident he is scum. | ||
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On June 21 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote: DP, for me, he has never professed to play this way. With so many 'townies' day 1 and then already using elimination to find scum? He fucked up and is trying not get lynched. I actually thought about this while i was watching TV and the comment marv made about handing out town reads like candy. That is actually something scum often do because they find it difficult to form scum reads. So it sort of lends credence to the idea that if his process has changed it has become scummier. Also marvs town read on him is based on yamato's personality from what i can tell. | ||
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On June 21 2013 19:25 marvellosity wrote: It's irrelevant who it was, I was pointing out that it's a thought process I've seen townies use before. Do you see mafia say "I think the whole town is fine, except x and y"? If so, when? Because I can't think of anything. No doubt is it a legitimate way to play the game. Eliminating townreads is something everyone does. The problem is he almost arbitrarily gave everyone town reads except myself and coag when it wasn't actually possible to have established so many town reads. Then backtracked on his scum reads or whatever they were hard under pressure. Like at this point the technique is useless because his town reads were meaningless. I'd be less worried if he thought we were null for not looking townie, but he clearly cast suspicion on us for absolutely no legitimate reason. Yamato is still definitely a question in this game regardless of how you feel about his personality. But i think we need to give him some time to contribute/explain himself. | ||
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On June 21 2013 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably because the discussion topics need to give some input. What do you think of Ange DP? Not really much to go off to be honest. | ||
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On June 21 2013 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think she has a clear train of thought? Could you elaborate a little more? No. I don't know what she is thinking when she asks her questions. I wish she would stick around and wait for the answers and participate in a discussion a bit, but what can you do. I seem to remember her playing the same way in my first newbie (in which she single handedly destroyed the entire scum team) | ||
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