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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 02:32 GMT
#1901
Hmm...Xfire I don't really trust you right now.
Please:
1)Respond to my questions
2)Guys,so what do you think we could "force" Xfire to do, to benefit town the maximum, even if we are not sure about Xfire's alignment (and he could easily be scum)?
Basically, "force" him to do something that helps town, and if he doesn't he's confirmed scum, and we can 100% know whether he did it or not.
I'm thinking about making him RB kita, but if both are scum kita can fake-claim RB and Xfire can use the busdriver/KP/etc on anyone of his choice
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 02:33 GMT
#1902
On June 27 2013 11:29 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 10:42 gonzaw wrote:
Or...I could just make a creative, fun and useful to town invention...

..hehe...

...hehehe...

.....he

Wait...now I want to invent another thing.
WHAT DO I DO I HAVE ALL THESE IDEAS AARRHHHGG

listcheck baby


Pfff those are like baby-inventor-steps, I don't need that basic shit.

Allayloo!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 02:35 GMT
#1903
Also if you refer to Aperture Mafia's listcheck (Nisani did) that's insanely OP and I doubt deconduo will let me do it (it can basically confirm all remaining anti-town in a single go...like it did in that game)
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2013 02:36 GMT
#1904
On June 27 2013 11:35 gonzaw wrote:
Also if you refer to Aperture Mafia's listcheck (Nisani did) that's insanely OP and I doubt deconduo will let me do it (it can basically confirm all remaining anti-town in a single go...like it did in that game)

TL Mafia had listcheck dts in some normal games I think, they are always featured in PYPI
listcheck best ever
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 02:37 GMT
#1905
Listcheck is kinda cheating though...

...

Can I invent a DT Listcheck?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 03:57 GMT
#1906
Whatever, see you tomorrow guys
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 04:11 GMT
#1907
You know, fuck this shit I'll make you a listcheck....
...but it's not what you may expect
...maybe...
...maybe not...
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 04:14 GMT
#1908
EBWOP:

By "you" I didn't mean Kurumi in particular
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 04:28 GMT
#1909
BOOOOORING

This might be my last time on this planet and nobody is doing anything.
Well tough titties
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 04:45 GMT
#1910
Sorry I'm too busy being absolutely and utterly alive.

A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 05:09 GMT
#1911
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 05:09 GMT
#1912
that is all for now.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 05:41 GMT
#1913
y u say that?
now you are gonna die tonight

CROOOOSFIIIIIIRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

*sigh* fine I'm going to sleep.

In town we trust
Respect
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#1914
Huh? Didn't anyone notice my latest post yet? In any case, I decided to send "geript is forced to vote for Kitaman27" for now. It's a shame I can't PM Gonzaw or BC (or DI now that he's alive? or half-alive?) with this, but basically I want to use this power in the optimal way to make hammering the most likely scum easier (so: 2nd most likely -> most likely pretty much). With this majority lynch rule it's impossible to get anyone lynched unless most players agree, so this ability doesn't feel that powerful if I just throw it on my own. So Gonzaw/BC/DI, could you vote for a better alternative if you disagree with my choice? Like maybe austinmcc/Crossfire99/Kurumi in place of geript or something.

I also think that one of you three (Gonzaw/BC/DI) will definitely die tonight, probably BC because you have DT, so you can think of this a "vote from the grave" if you want.. Lol.

So did Kitaman27 actually kill Dandel Ion? I'm still too confused about what happened yesterday.

Also everyone should look at geript, I don't think almost anyone(?) has suspected him as scum so far but his filter is full of sheeping and filler posts (AND nothing townish). I think it's more than worth taking a look at.

Did austinmcc fulfill his promise to use that power?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 07:09 GMT
#1915
On June 27 2013 11:32 gonzaw wrote:
Hmm...Xfire I don't really trust you right now.
Please:
1)Respond to my questions
2)Guys,so what do you think we could "force" Xfire to do, to benefit town the maximum, even if we are not sure about Xfire's alignment (and he could easily be scum)?
Basically, "force" him to do something that helps town, and if he doesn't he's confirmed scum, and we can 100% know whether he did it or not.
I'm thinking about making him RB kita, but if both are scum kita can fake-claim RB and Xfire can use the busdriver/KP/etc on anyone of his choice


Wait Crossfire99 has roleblock? Damn. Maybe I should have used my power in secret after all (in case he's scum).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 07:53 GMT
#1916
Okay I'm starting to get more and more confident that geript is a scum. Then one of Kitaman27 and austinmcc (probably not both considering how D2 votes were divided between them). Then probably Crossfire99. Still not sure about Kurumi but since he's "inventing" I guess he may be town.

So basically: Gonzaw, BC, DI town. Kurumi maybe town. One of austinmcc/Kitaman27 town. That just leaves geript and Crossfire99.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 27 2013 09:34 GMT
#1917
Sorry guys I suck three dicks gg
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 09:43 GMT
#1918
On June 27 2013 04:50 gonzaw wrote:
Conspiracy Theory Time!



Sk8
Xatalos
Xfire


austin being town (or 3p) in this case.
Sk8 does shit all until deadline and sheeps on the popular vote on a townie (Zepphird or snb). Xatalos goes against solstice
Xfire joins the fight against soltice with a ninja-sheep-vote.
solstice dies to a shot from another 3P maybe (maybe kita lol)
Alternatively, they shoot solstice because their role allows them to somehow, and then they laugh as votes pile onto austin. SK8 and MZ don't vote austin for...some reason? Maybe they were indeed inactive (if the shot was 3P it would make sense, solstice/Zeph is getting misslynched so why the hell bother being at the deadline?)

After that austin mislynch ALMOST goes through, but is 1 vote short (saved by superheroe of the day geript maybe? If austin is town then he surely is lol).

After that, Xatalos goes on full austin-scum tunnel-mode, doesn't really talk much about other people, specially not sk8 and Xfire from what I remember
Xfire does shit all as expected. Sk8 does shit all as expected (but why would they do otherwise? Other than BC nobody really even pressured them enough to do so).

Remember this?:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me.

Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else?
That baffles me.
It seems that you knew he was town all along.


Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)?

Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain?

He defends himself based on the role he has.
I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask.


I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much?

I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch.


Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:54 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me.

Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else?
That baffles me.
It seems that you knew he was town all along.


Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)?

Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain?

He defends himself based on the role he has.
I ain't believin' a guy who's hiding behind a mask.


I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much?

I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch.


Lol, that's a pretty lackluster reason I must say...... Why would scum want austinmcc dead when he was A) scum or at least B) otherwise harmful to town and a good lynch candidate for D2? It just makes no sense for scum to rush in and vote for austinmcc. And it didn't even go that well, which proves that scum didn't want it. So austinmcc is either scum or scum otherwise want him alive.


Possibly. Except you could use the same argument against Solstice, and Solstice was the original lynch target and flipped a blue. If you follow the votes, players who were on both the Solstice lynch and Austin lynch were
Solstice lynch train - Xatalos, WoS, Zephirdd, kitaman, gonzaw, Crossfire99, geript, Dandel Ion
Austin lynch train - Zephirdd, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, kitaman, Crossfire99, gonzaw, Kurumi

Zephird, Xatalos, Dandel Ion, Kitaman, Xfire were on both the Solstice and the Austin lynch.


Now, why would scum Sk8 not push this idea further and completely forget about it?
Oh...wait, 2 out of 5 are part of his scumteam? I guess it DOES make sense for him to not push it further then.

Then what happens?
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote:
Why'd everybody go quiet?

Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems:

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you.

NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS

JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.

If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.

To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.

Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.


I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good.

Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die.

HUH?

If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw.

Next:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 19:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-

On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.



LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.

If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!!
More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town).

Onwards and upwards!
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 20:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.

Hey Kurumi.
Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles.
Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?

Also I know who wrote my role.
:D


That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again?

We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART!

Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them.

Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.




In closing: lets kill Xatalos



Oh snap!
So what happens next?

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 06:04 deconduo wrote:
Acrofales, Winston Churchill met a grisly end.


Oh.....I wonder why?

Jumpstart to D2:
Xatalos still tunnels austin, is wishy-washy as fuck about kita and sk8, but most importantly sk8 (read that post above in my previous post).
Sk8 does shit...oh wait he NINJA-VOTES THE GUY HE THOUGHT SCUM GANGED UP ON. Seems like town sentiment is against austin, he's getting the "noob town" cred so he's free to do whatever he does
Sk8 then lies about other shit, gives confusing info about Tardis (all game long. Most of it is right, but he purposefully makes it confusing so he can go posts and posts and posts confusing us more and appear active).
He LIES ABOUT MY ROLE BEING NERFED. THE HOST FUCKING CONFIRMED IT (I'll expand on this if I can post my role PM).
Here:
READ THIS SHIT I THINK ITS DAMNING AS FUCK
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 11:36 gonzaw wrote:
How about straight up stating the role?

If I get lynched a random dude that voted me dies
But here's the best part, each night I can visit someone and he gains the same ability (after I visit him, if he gets lynched a random dude that voted for him dies).

I have no use for it and there is no use in hiding it from scum or whatever because I'll never use it, so let's just get it over with (hopefully obs qt guys have pity on me or something)


Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 12:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
dont be all upset cause the role I wrote for u got nerfed. I could post the original I wrote for you. It was jester veteran lookout but the lookout gives u numbers with alignment instead of names, cuz that would just be OP. and then u can use your second ability to remove the jester ability from people based on the number u received.

i.e.
When activatd
1 visted u, they are MAFIA
2 visted u, they are town

so basically u could confirm players that visitedd u BUT u dont know who visited u and then become jesters. I guess it got nerfed though since apparently u say it blos. I thot it was pretty balanced



Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 03:43 deconduo wrote:
Some roles may have been altered slightly for whatever reasons, but nothing big or significant was changed. Pretty much everyone was given word for word the role PM we received.


Xfire continues not doing shit, even going as far as asking random shit like "oh what's going on I'm confused".

Veredict: Well, It did start as a conspiracy theory but the more I wrote about it the more I convince myself of it lolol
That's most likely confirmation bias either way though, but there's stuff here to really make you think and re-think this lynch.
Also, if Xata/Xfire are scum we can try to understand this on N2 as well.

To be honest, the one LESS likely to be scum of the trio is Xfire. Maybe you can replace him with snb...but I dunno Xfire seems to "fit" more than snb, but snb should die soon so it's not like it matters (if snb flips town put Xfire back into the trio)


austin, you have the tin-foil hat, so you speculate about this shit

This should make good discussion shit.

Also I a skimmed Xata's scum game in GoT and I guess I can see him playing like that here. No thorough reading though.
Have little time to read him properly, will do so after sk8 hopefully dies and after I come back from uni

This is your time to shine Town! Show me what you got!

Please kill sk8! Unless you want a super-gambit and kill Xata now or something (although I haven't really read his filter properly yet to make a precise read on him)


This is mostly based on sk8r flipping scum and austinmcc flipping town -> I'm also scum because of some connections and Crossfire99 as well because he's not doing anything.. But sk8r flipped town and austinmcc is still a question mark so I don't see much value in these speculations. Also how am I playing like in Game of Thrones Mafia...... That's as far from the truth as you can get LOL. My filter was like 3(?) pages there with zero scumhunting. Then look at my filter in this game. But you should rather look at my more recent games.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 09:48 GMT
#1919
On June 27 2013 05:06 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote:
Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot?

He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita?

That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum.

Aren't you the one with the bus driver role?
I was talking about you.

Don't ignore me Xfire. Respond to this.

Oh, yeah I have a bus driver ability, but I have not used it and it can only be used at night. Gonzaw can confirm that.


Didn't notice this before. Can you confirm this Gonzaw?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 27 2013 11:00 GMT
#1920
Yes xfire has that ability and alk his abilities can be used only at night....
....at least the ones he has for now

I think he can gain some day abilities tomorrow but i already forgot about them. Ill check them latwr and see if theey are poweeful or not lol
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