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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:31 GMT
#1941
On June 27 2013 08:56 gonzaw wrote:
SKATER WHY DIDNT YOU LIKE TOLD US KITA COULD HAVE BUSSED HIMSELF WITH DI?

XFIRE WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US THAT EITHER?

Is just everybody scum in this game?
Hamm it, I want a drink..

I didn't tell you about it day 1 or night 1 because it wasn't relevant. I didn't want it to be exposed to scum. Here I still thought that sk8r was town. Day 2 when I discovered kita got it, I told him to pass it immediately because that should have been possible with the way I wrote the role originally. When he said that it had an action associated with its passing I became confused and asked deconduo about it. Unfortunately, I had to leave shortly thereafter and could not post until I came back to thread when I was asked by pm to choose between geript or kita. I choose kita. At this point I realized kita could save himself but didn't want to mention anything because we couldn't do anything about it because geript challenged kita, so it was either geript or kita and either way kita could bus drive. In this instance I didn't say anything because kita didn't seem to realize that he could save himself, so I kept quiet hoping he would die. Unfortunately, he did figure it out and saved himself and killed dandel. I revealed all this when I came back to the thread right before the lynch.


On June 27 2013 09:00 gonzaw wrote:
XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA

I repeat:

XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA

I choose option three instead of escaping through the window or going out to the hall. This is when Yoz is fighting the WYM and I'm hiding in a room nearby.


On June 27 2013 10:59 gonzaw wrote:
Xfire, please tell me the name of the item you got, if you got any (and tell me which option you chose)
(regarding the story in the Central Station with Roshi the White-Haired Mohawk Rastafari Underworld Lord)

Don't know who this roshi guy is yet. Maybe I'll get a pm soon?

Also, I'll do whatever you want me to do because I'm town. I'm sorry I've played so terribly this game but it's the truth.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 15:32 GMT
#1942
On June 28 2013 00:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Not sure even he would be that dumb, but crossfire has a history of claiming scum.


I'm basically wondering if anyone else than him *could* bus drive atm. Apparently Kitaman27 can't bus drive anymore after giving away the TARDIS?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:33 GMT
#1943
On June 28 2013 00:21 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm... But that just means Crossfire99 might bus drive Kitaman27 and choose whoever he wants to vote for that way

Is Crossfire99 atm the only one who can bus drive or can Kitaman27 do that still? If Crossfire99 is the only one, I guess we can say he's 100% scum if Kitaman27 gets bus drived and assume he doesn't.

Kurumi can bus drive or protect tonight, but he says the TARDIS had its energy drained. I don't know anything about that. What I wrote for the abilities can be seen in sk8r's role pm when he flipped.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 15:36 GMT
#1944
Crossfire99, what are your scumreads currently? You're not planning on bus driving Kitaman27 are you..? Apparently you want him dead now so there's no real reason to at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 15:37 GMT
#1945
Yeah, I guess Kurumi being able to bus drive makes it hard to say who did it if it happens... Unless Kurumi targets someone else tonight.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 15:38 GMT
#1946
Gonzaw, a gun that only fires if pointed at scum, listcheck, parity check, a beacon you can drop in the OP on a player that beeps if there is scum nearby in the player list, second TARDIS/TARDIS repair kit, refresher for someone's abilities ... SO MANY OPTIONS. Dont' be complaining that anything town-favored is boring, that's bs, and you finally get to be a frigging inventor.

kita's reasons behind his bus on DI make no sense to me. If he were a survivor, he should have been trying to kill mafia. If he busses and kills mafia, he gets on town's good side, he's unlikely to be an immediate lynch candidate, and it brings him closer to endgame (quicker for him to kill mafia than town).

He thought I was mafia yesterday, but didn't use his bus on me. He used it on DI, but it's unclear what kita thought about DI:
I eliminated a player that brought no value to town and seems to have a personal vendetta against myself. However, even if you cut the head off a cockroach, it will still run around aimlessly for a while. Dandel is the type of player that would rather see myself lynched over all else, even if it resulted in a mafia victory. Do I even need to remind you guys that his town flip was fake?
His big post says Dandel brought no value to town and was gonna tunnel kita even if it resulted in mafia victory. Those statements indicate he thinks dandel is town.

But he also says DI's flip was fake, and
On June 27 2013 22:41 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
If he really wanted to work with us as 3P then he could have ensured his own survival by, ya know, NOT KILLING ONE OF US.


Not my fault you masked the alignment and revived my scum snipe. That's your problem.


Those sentences don't go together. DI wasn't helping town and was gonna tunnel kita, but also was scum. Moreover, he thought I was scum yesterday, seems to still think I'm scum, and chose to fire at DI over me.

If he's worried about being tunneled by DI, you know what helps get DI off your back? Shooting your scumread. He thinks I'm scum, so why didn't he bus me, expect to flip scum, knowing that once he did that DI would be happy with him and stop tunnelling, at least for a bit? Because he's not a survivor.

Tinfoil hat time, with relation to the above.

kita and DI scumteam.

kita knows DI will rez, AND that he gets to choose what he flips as. kita shoots DI, DI chooses to flip with a town PM. DI resurrects, and they go at each other hard. kita knows that he's about to get killed, by shot or by lynch, and if scum doesn't have anyone in a position above reproach, this lets them maneuver DI into that spot. kita shoots DI, DI flips town, kita and DI go at each other, kita dies, poof. DI has already flipped town AND had a spat with kita. He now looks SUPER TOWN when kita dies.

Does not seem as likely as ... regular options, unless drazerk is smurfing as one of the two. If DI were mafia, may as well wait as long as possible to die, still flip town, still look town, even without the extra push from kita.
Fe fi fo fum.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2013 15:38 GMT
#1947
On June 28 2013 00:37 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, I guess Kurumi being able to bus drive makes it hard to say who did it if it happens... Unless Kurumi targets someone else tonight.

I am not using TARDIS, I don't want to be branded RETARDIS.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 15:39 GMT
#1948
kurumi,

do you know what the TARDIS being drained of energy means? Can you use it this cycle? Multiple players have mentioned you bussing folks tonight, but I took the out of energy thing to mean that you couldn't protect yourself or bus.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 15:42 GMT
#1949
anyone,

On June 26 2013 07:38 kitaman27 wrote:
@gonzaw, I'm the Fallen Angel

Did anyone write this role?
Fe fi fo fum.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 15:45 GMT
#1950
Also if any of you are retarded enough to write a multiple shot dayvig and still didn't tell anybody about it, now's your chance.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 15:46 GMT
#1951
On June 28 2013 00:38 austinmcc wrote:
Gonzaw, a gun that only fires if pointed at scum, listcheck, parity check, a beacon you can drop in the OP on a player that beeps if there is scum nearby in the player list, second TARDIS/TARDIS repair kit, refresher for someone's abilities ... SO MANY OPTIONS. Dont' be complaining that anything town-favored is boring, that's bs, and you finally get to be a frigging inventor.

kita's reasons behind his bus on DI make no sense to me. If he were a survivor, he should have been trying to kill mafia. If he busses and kills mafia, he gets on town's good side, he's unlikely to be an immediate lynch candidate, and it brings him closer to endgame (quicker for him to kill mafia than town).

He thought I was mafia yesterday, but didn't use his bus on me. He used it on DI, but it's unclear what kita thought about DI:
Show nested quote +
I eliminated a player that brought no value to town and seems to have a personal vendetta against myself. However, even if you cut the head off a cockroach, it will still run around aimlessly for a while. Dandel is the type of player that would rather see myself lynched over all else, even if it resulted in a mafia victory. Do I even need to remind you guys that his town flip was fake?
His big post says Dandel brought no value to town and was gonna tunnel kita even if it resulted in mafia victory. Those statements indicate he thinks dandel is town.

But he also says DI's flip was fake, and
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 22:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 27 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
If he really wanted to work with us as 3P then he could have ensured his own survival by, ya know, NOT KILLING ONE OF US.


Not my fault you masked the alignment and revived my scum snipe. That's your problem.


Those sentences don't go together. DI wasn't helping town and was gonna tunnel kita, but also was scum. Moreover, he thought I was scum yesterday, seems to still think I'm scum, and chose to fire at DI over me.

If he's worried about being tunneled by DI, you know what helps get DI off your back? Shooting your scumread. He thinks I'm scum, so why didn't he bus me, expect to flip scum, knowing that once he did that DI would be happy with him and stop tunnelling, at least for a bit? Because he's not a survivor.

Tinfoil hat time, with relation to the above.

kita and DI scumteam.

kita knows DI will rez, AND that he gets to choose what he flips as. kita shoots DI, DI chooses to flip with a town PM. DI resurrects, and they go at each other hard. kita knows that he's about to get killed, by shot or by lynch, and if scum doesn't have anyone in a position above reproach, this lets them maneuver DI into that spot. kita shoots DI, DI flips town, kita and DI go at each other, kita dies, poof. DI has already flipped town AND had a spat with kita. He now looks SUPER TOWN when kita dies.

Does not seem as likely as ... regular options, unless drazerk is smurfing as one of the two. If DI were mafia, may as well wait as long as possible to die, still flip town, still look town, even without the extra push from kita.

kita's words make no sense cause he pulls em out of his ass.

Like for reasoning for bussing me he quotes posts I posted AFTER I resurrected.
herpada derpa
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:47 GMT
#1952
On June 28 2013 00:36 Xatalos wrote:
Crossfire99, what are your scumreads currently? You're not planning on bus driving Kitaman27 are you..? Apparently you want him dead now so there's no real reason to at least.

Honestly, I'm super confused right now. I know who I think is town, but everyone else I have to spend time rereading. Gut feeling I have is that kita is 3rd party. He basically breadcrumbed it in his first post. Also, the fact that he knew about the TARDIS is weird. That was sk8r's role and he was town, so I can't really see mafia being told about the TARDIS, but idk. Also, if he really was 3rd party I can see him having an ability to drain the TARDIS's energy or something. I do not see scum having that ability because I intended for scum to be able to use the TARDIS in case Sally ended up being scum. That's where I'm at right now.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 15:52 GMT
#1953
On June 28 2013 00:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
kita's words make no sense cause he pulls em out of his ass.

Like for reasoning for bussing me he quotes posts I posted AFTER I resurrected.
herpada derpa
Yeah, but...they make no sense whatsoever.

If they don't make sense, why post em? He's trying to do something, and that something isn't "make myself look good."

Ugh.

DI, if every player in this game except for you were a sock, and you were a washing machine that was washing all the socks...

(1) Which sock is most likely to get lost in the wash?
(2) Assuming it's winter and the owner of all of us likes to wear socks, which pair of socks is warmest?
(3) this was not my best set of stupid questions.
Fe fi fo fum.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 15:56 GMT
#1954
Yeah or he did it so you could set yourself up for pushing me.

wifom baby
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 27 2013 15:58 GMT
#1955
1) Crossfire would be lost first because he doesn't ask for the way
2) geript is pretty warm*
3) no not really

*disclaimer: in german, warm basically means gay
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2013 16:06 GMT
#1956
On June 28 2013 00:39 austinmcc wrote:
kurumi,

do you know what the TARDIS being drained of energy means? Can you use it this cycle? Multiple players have mentioned you bussing folks tonight, but I took the out of energy thing to mean that you couldn't protect yourself or bus.

No. Yes.
I am not doing anything.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 27 2013 16:08 GMT
#1957
BC, you've seen skater's role now. Is there something in his role or yours that accounts for the returned bullet? So many abilities have popped off now, and we've seen no roleblocker yet, but we still don't know what happened with your D1 shot on skater.
Fe fi fo fum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 16:10 GMT
#1958
Austinmcc's conspiracy theory just triggered a revelation in me...

WHAT IF geript and Kitaman27 are scumbuddies... And geript shot him, knowing that he would bus drive himself with Dandel Ion, 1) killing a hard-to-lynch townie 2) gaining towncred for geript if/when Kitaman27 flipped red 3) making an easy bus bandwagon on Kitaman27 for scum team to gain towncred with. In this case I can see austinmcc being scum as well. Doesn't this seem like a plausible scenario? At least I don't see any obvious flaws in it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 16:15 GMT
#1959
And so:

geript is forced to vote for Kitaman27
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 27 2013 16:17 GMT
#1960
Btw did geript have some kind of a visitor-killing power? If yes, I might have to reconsider.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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