EPTWhy are we not lynching Zeph?
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
Why are we not lynching Zeph? | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
We definitely need a lynch, and we have a good chance to hit scum with Zeph. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 24 2013 03:58 s0Lstice wrote: and yea I dont want to lynch skater. I really think he is town. We definitely need a lynch, and we have a good chance to hit scum with Zeph. Why is sk8r town? You seemed to know that from the moment BC claimed his shot. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
I started leaning town on him fairly early, and when BC shot him, I found it a little upsetting. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I think there are plenty of people that did a good job of looking obviously town on day one. We're in a good position because of that. Either BC is lying about the roleblock or the roleblocker anonymously saved Sk8rguy without claiming. Right now, I have a town read on BC due to the fact that he would have been making an unnecessary lie at little gain for himself. Plus the fact that there were multiple actions sent in leads me to believe the shot and block were real. The fact that the roleblocker has not claimed, makes me think that it was likely a scum roleblocker. If a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, he would have claimed to remove any unwarranted suspicion of Sk8r. A day blocker is hardly such a strong role in a game full of blues that it is worth a mislynch to keep your identity safe. The other alternative is that there is a scum roleblocker trying to save a town Sk8r in order to make him or BC look suspicious. From a mafia perspective, just letting Sk8r die would make more sense and make BC look bad in the process, which leads me to the conclusion that a scum roleblocker saved a scum Sk8r. Initially, I had a town read based on the way he was willing to attract attention to him by pushing BC and the way that he explained why he was using his role. However, based on the way that he moved off BC so easily explaining that he obviously wasn't going to get lynched and wanted to avoid a split vote is pretty scummy. As for the other people under suspicion... Between s0Lstice and Zeph, I think s0L is more likely to be scum. He is willing to call both BC and sk8r town, but doesn't really explain what happened to the roleblocker (unless he is the roleblocker himself). I don't follow his reasoning to come to a both town conclusion based on what he has shared. His vote on Zeph seems like he needs to come up with a lynch candidate and push it, but the reasoning he grabbed on to isn't very strong. He is pushing the Zeph lynch with too much confidence to think he was scum based on the reasoning provided, which is generally what I fall into as scum. Also, posts like these always seem like they are more likely to come from scum than town: Between On June 24 2013 02:45 s0Lstice wrote: wow this town is awful 1 day, 1 apple I still think we should resolve the Sk8r situation first based on my reasoning above. ##Vote Sk8r | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 24 2013 03:57 s0Lstice wrote: cuz right now pushing off skater seems more effective than pushing on zeph. Also, people that I trust are reading skater differently, want to figure that out so I can read them better.Austin why are you not pushing Zeph? Why are we not lynching Zeph? | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:05 kitaman27 wrote: So here is where I'm at: I think there are plenty of people that did a good job of looking obviously town on day one. We're in a good position because of that. Either BC is lying about the roleblock or the roleblocker anonymously saved Sk8rguy without claiming. Right now, I have a town read on BC due to the fact that he would have been making an unnecessary lie at little gain for himself. Plus the fact that there were multiple actions sent in leads me to believe the shot and block were real. The fact that the roleblocker has not claimed, makes me think that it was likely a scum roleblocker. If a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, he would have claimed to remove any unwarranted suspicion of Sk8r. A day blocker is hardly such a strong role in a game full of blues that it is worth a mislynch to keep your identity safe. The other alternative is that there is a scum roleblocker trying to save a town Sk8r in order to make him or BC look suspicious. From a mafia perspective, just letting Sk8r die would make more sense and make BC look bad in the process, which leads me to the conclusion that a scum roleblocker saved a scum Sk8r. Initially, I had a town read based on the way he was willing to attract attention to him by pushing BC and the way that he explained why he was using his role. However, based on the way that he moved off BC so easily explaining that he obviously wasn't going to get lynched and wanted to avoid a split vote is pretty scummy. As for the other people under suspicion... Between s0Lstice and Zeph, I think s0L is more likely to be scum. He is willing to call both BC and sk8r town, but doesn't really explain what happened to the roleblocker (unless he is the roleblocker himself). I don't follow his reasoning to come to a both town conclusion based on what he has shared. His vote on Zeph seems like he needs to come up with a lynch candidate and push it, but the reasoning he grabbed on to isn't very strong. He is pushing the Zeph lynch with too much confidence to think he was scum based on the reasoning provided, which is generally what I fall into as scum. Also, posts like these always seem like they are more likely to come from scum than town: Between I still think we should resolve the Sk8r situation first based on my reasoning above. ##Vote Sk8r Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: People if you're voting solstice you should really read his and zephridd's filter back to back, it's a stark difference. Solstice is active, he explains his reads, while I think he hasn't followed up everything he's talked about I don't think that's something worth killing him for. Between the two solstice is helping the town a lot more and zephridd has done almost nothing. you've done jack shit. What's your stance on sk8r? | ||
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xxSK8rGUy277xx
300 Posts
My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role. I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack. I am Sally Sparrow. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote: Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this.[/QUOTE] So it is your opinion that a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, but will not claim because he wants to see Sk8r burn at the stake? Or that a mafia roleblocker saved Sk9r because he wanted to lynch him rather than vig him? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived. My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role. I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack. I am Sally Sparrow. So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie? | ||
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xxSK8rGUy277xx
300 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote: So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie? Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it. At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:10 Zephirdd wrote: you've done jack shit. What's your stance on sk8r? I may have less posts than you but in terms of content you're the one who's done jack. I already talked about my position on sk8, I'm with gonzaw and I think he's probably not scum. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived. My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role. I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack. I am Sally Sparrow. If you thought that you can just say you were fucking bulletproof and say that BC was lying about being roleblocked, AND PUSHED THAT HARD god damnit. It's also entirely possible that your protection ability means roleblocking attackers, not holding bullets. I say this because I believe BC is town. It's also super entirely possible that you are lying hard right now and there is a blocker in your scum team. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:13 kitaman27 wrote: Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this. So it is your opinion that a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, but will not claim because he wants to see Sk8r burn at the stake? Or that a mafia roleblocker saved Sk9r because he wanted to lynch him rather than vig him?[/QUOTE] oh this is fun ...or one of the million lurkers we have has an automatic dayvig shutdown and hasn't been around to say anything about it or isn't caring/is checked out to the point that they don't realize that information would be pertinant right now? Like Xfire? your focus on this is silly | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:05 kitaman27 wrote: So here is where I'm at: I think there are plenty of people that did a good job of looking obviously town on day one. We're in a good position because of that. Either BC is lying about the roleblock or the roleblocker anonymously saved Sk8rguy without claiming. Right now, I have a town read on BC due to the fact that he would have been making an unnecessary lie at little gain for himself. Plus the fact that there were multiple actions sent in leads me to believe the shot and block were real. The fact that the roleblocker has not claimed, makes me think that it was likely a scum roleblocker. If a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, he would have claimed to remove any unwarranted suspicion of Sk8r. A day blocker is hardly such a strong role in a game full of blues that it is worth a mislynch to keep your identity safe. The other alternative is that there is a scum roleblocker trying to save a town Sk8r in order to make him or BC look suspicious. From a mafia perspective, just letting Sk8r die would make more sense and make BC look bad in the process, which leads me to the conclusion that a scum roleblocker saved a scum Sk8r. Initially, I had a town read based on the way he was willing to attract attention to him by pushing BC and the way that he explained why he was using his role. However, based on the way that he moved off BC so easily explaining that he obviously wasn't going to get lynched and wanted to avoid a split vote is pretty scummy. As for the other people under suspicion... Between s0Lstice and Zeph, I think s0L is more likely to be scum. He is willing to call both BC and sk8r town, but doesn't really explain what happened to the roleblocker (unless he is the roleblocker himself). I don't follow his reasoning to come to a both town conclusion based on what he has shared. His vote on Zeph seems like he needs to come up with a lynch candidate and push it, but the reasoning he grabbed on to isn't very strong. He is pushing the Zeph lynch with too much confidence to think he was scum based on the reasoning provided, which is generally what I fall into as scum. Also, posts like these always seem like they are more likely to come from scum than town: Between I still think we should resolve the Sk8r situation first based on my reasoning above. ##Vote Sk8r If a scum roleblocker indeed did roleblock BC, then I agree that sk8r is more than likely scum. But that's not confirmed at all. There are other possibilities: 1) A town roleblocker roleblocked BC and doesn't want to reveal his identity (yet). If this is the case, PLEASE REVEAL NOW. We all have blue roles so it's not worth it to mislynch just to keep your role secret from scum. 2) BC is lying about his role/actions/something. Not very likely. 3) Something else unexpected. There are probably so many weird roles capable of doing stuff that it's stupid to base a scumread on role speculation. Are you still convinced? Unless scum roleblocked BC, I don't see sk8r as particularly scummy. | ||
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xxSK8rGUy277xx
300 Posts
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec. I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10 | ||
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