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On June 23 2013 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 20:43 Kurumi wrote:
Are you being serious or did someone went against the tips of the hosts and gave you a post restriction?
1) townread on BC 2) shitty OMGUS on me 3) irrelevant softpush on austin that's literally everything you ever did, and out of this only the townread on BC counts as a contribution.
You were the person to OMGUS me on basis that I am not trolling, get real man.
I am NOT softpushing austin, I said already that I am suspicious of him and his logic seems SCUM to me, but I believe you to be offender #1 and want to get rid of you. What's the problem about pushing your biggest scumread instead of second or third, huh?
I talked with BC a lot in private so I know what he thinks about malicious people and what I know is represented in his actions.
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On June 23 2013 20:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
So how are you in a position to call me out for contributions again?
Not to mention your threats are empty beans anyways, your vote is already on me and you can't do more than that.
I can't do anything yet, that's day. Not many people go for day roles, especially roles with means of hurting other people.
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On June 23 2013 20:50 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 12:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Dandel is really fucking weird after this events. I fully understand why he went ape shit on me. I do and find that perfectly normal. However On June 23 2013 09:19 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote:
@Sk8ter. You missed my key question. How is it that pre-shot you have BC as 100% scum (of 130%) but aren't trying to use the shot to help divine BC's alignment? Your post shot conclusion is not a bigger better push on BC but that Dandel is town. Explain. Look at this guy It's like he really wants people to read BC as scum (without calling him so himself) and like he really doesn't want people to see how supertown I am (without calling me scum himself) It's like he's scum. This is wtf. Geript asked a question that actually makes a ton of sense. Rather than try and label me as scum, or scumhunt, sk8 comes out with dandel is town. Not only that, Dandel takes massive offense to this. The seeming need to be viewed as "super town" is weird. Day 1 no one should be viewed as super town nor be pissed if someone doesn't see them that way. Should I want to be viewed as mafia? Explain that, that technique seems to be too advanced for me. I'm not saying I need to be viewed as supertown. I'm saying I am supertown. My meta is one of the easiest on this site (damn you iamp), and it's glaringly obvious that I'm town. Don't be hatin', it's just true. btw, reads on day1 are real. I believe.
Interesting, so somehow I see that you are scum but you are playing 1000% town meta?
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On June 23 2013 20:53 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 20:47 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 23 2013 20:43 Kurumi wrote:
Are you being serious or did someone went against the tips of the hosts and gave you a post restriction?
1) townread on BC 2) shitty OMGUS on me 3) irrelevant softpush on austin that's literally everything you ever did, and out of this only the townread on BC counts as a contribution. You were the person to OMGUS me on basis that I am not trolling, get real man. I am NOT softpushing austin, I said already that I am suspicious of him and his logic seems SCUM to me, but I believe you to be offender #1 and want to get rid of you. What's the problem about pushing your biggest scumread instead of second or third, huh? No, I didn't do that. It's like you haven't even read what's my filter and what's other people's post. lol. Nice lies. That is the definition of softpushing. I'm not mad about it, I just want you to know that you can't disguise it as a contribution when you say "oh he could be scum but atm i want to lynch X so idc ololol".
What's wrong about looking for more scum when you think you caught one already? Please, tell me more. I am not trying to make people think I contribute, look at my second post I believe. I don't care about your opinion, I just do my own thing and that's fine to me.
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On June 23 2013 21:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh wow, you really want to be mad and fight, huh.
Nothing is wrong with it. In fact, I'm all for you trying to find actual scum instead of tunneling me for posts other people wrote while you can't read and think I did them.
So how about you find the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling. I'm really interested because I can't remember doing that at all. Maybe on the way you'll actually read my filter and realize how wrong you are. Unless, of course, you want to be wrong. In which case, flame on.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2013 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 18:09 Kurumi wrote:On June 22 2013 17:40 Xatalos wrote:On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote:
For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense.
No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies? LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia... Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that. How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored? But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN! Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote:On June 22 2013 23:43 Xatalos wrote:On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote:
##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though. Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town.. He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy. Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy. Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote:On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote:
In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff. Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it? Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut. Oh I'm so impressed. Now could you respond to Wave's case on you? Thanks. His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments. WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws. he then responds to On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut. Oh I'm so impressed. Now could you respond to Wave's case on you? Thanks. His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments. Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul. Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal. I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys. I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures. Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum. Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad. Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy. You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure. Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy. Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote. This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it. Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change. First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend. Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be. Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed. On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote:
I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch? Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this. I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos. Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town. As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE" Can you stop making shit up please. Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers. would lynch BC. Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy. You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure. Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy. Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote. This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it. Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change. First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend. Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be. Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed. On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote:
I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch? Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this. I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos. Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias. First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend. You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that? Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be. I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad? You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light. ^horrible shitflinging stahp plz -BC claims SK here- Yeah let's just lynch BC. Or Kurumi.
Here you go.
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I know that geript was more about voicing his opinion on me being scum based on not trolling, don't worry.
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On June 23 2013 21:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah and where's the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling?
It wasn't for not trolling it was because I somehow played anti-town by not posting in a thread that was being spammed by the likes of you.
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On June 23 2013 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:05 Kurumi wrote:
I know that geript was more about voicing his opinion on me being scum based on not trolling, don't worry. There's no MORE. I never said anything about it. At all. I know that because it's not my opinion and it hasn't been. And you calling me scum for it is complete bullshit and that you can't see that is actually scummy.
Okay, for fourth time I reread your filter and indeed there's no word about me not trolling = scum. Sorry. You were right.
Still, OMGUS was there on another basis.
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On June 23 2013 21:08 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:07 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah and where's the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling? It wasn't for not trolling it was because I somehow played anti-town by not posting in a thread that was being spammed by the likes of you. Yeah it was for you being hypocritical and Show nested quote +Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown.
So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad.
Which is it?
So how is it about trolling again? How is it town motivated again?
What is the best course of action to heal a thread spammed by trolls?
STAY AWAY AND WAIT FOR THEM TO GO TO BED.
Foolproof strategy.
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On June 23 2013 21:10 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:09 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:08 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 23 2013 21:07 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah and where's the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling? It wasn't for not trolling it was because I somehow played anti-town by not posting in a thread that was being spammed by the likes of you. Yeah it was for you being hypocritical and Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown.
So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad.
Which is it?
So how is it about trolling again? How is it town motivated again? What is the best course of action to heal a thread spammed by trolls? STAY AWAY AND WAIT FOR THEM TO GO TO BED. Foolproof strategy. Not posting at all. GENIUS TOWN STRATEGY, 10/10 WIN EVERY GAME
I told the thread already that I am going to post whenever I like, I am going to leave the thread whenever I like, because I don't CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY. If I believe that my posting will not bring anything new to the thread or that I am tired I AM GOING TO JUST DISAPPEAR. Excuses are for the weak.
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Why did you defend sk8r on basis he voted BC on the very start of the game?
Could you explain why you Lovetapped him?
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On June 23 2013 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:16 Kurumi wrote:
Why did you defend sk8r on basis he voted BC on the very start of the game?
Could you explain why you Lovetapped him? ? I didn't defend him for that. I defended him because I think he's town. I lovetapped him on basic math, I have explained this. + Show Spoiler +DISCLAIMER: IT WASN'T EXACT MATH OK? THAT'S WHY I SAY BASIC
Why do you think he is town?
What basic math?
Those things ARE missing from your filter.
You were on sk8r's side from the very start of The Crisis, you fought with both BC and WoS, why?
You called BC a bad player, do you really believe that?
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Oh that 75/25 thing.
REALLY?
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On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now. BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own.
I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO.
I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.]
Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play.
Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure.
Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet.
I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff.
Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
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On June 23 2013 21:27 Dandel Ion wrote:what about it?
When I read your posts I was like "damn, you really explained that lovetap thing in detail?"
Then I scramble to find that post and a mention of it happens when BC asks you why you lovetapped Sk8r. You bring up that he is more likely to be town than scum based on that there are more town than scum. What the heck man.
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On June 23 2013 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:41 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:27 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 23 2013 21:24 Kurumi wrote:
Oh that 75/25 thing.
REALLY? what about it? When I read your posts I was like "damn, you really explained that lovetap thing in detail?" Then I scramble to find that post and a mention of it happens when BC asks you why you lovetapped Sk8r. You bring up that he is more likely to be town than scum based on that there are more town than scum. What the heck man. Okay look at this: Conversely, randomly giving powers to a person is also 24.8% to hit scum. I'd take those chances on their own. Why wouldn't you? Add to that that I didn't find it scummy how he asked for it, I'm going in deep.
No no no, I did not say that you found BC scummy on basics of the question, I just wanted to locate when and who did you give the answer to that.
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On June 23 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
wat
I thought you made a detailed post on that lovetap thing but it turned out that you just replied to BC when he asked about it saying "75/25".
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On June 23 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw, if the lovetap was a big deal the role creator would have said by now.
he didn't so it's a) not or b) fake
either way no harm done anyways
Well, maybe role creator and sk8r are mafia together?
Or maybe third party?
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On June 23 2013 21:52 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:50 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw, if the lovetap was a big deal the role creator would have said by now.
he didn't so it's a) not or b) fake
either way no harm done anyways Well, maybe role creator and sk8r are mafia together? Or maybe third party? whatever I'm not threatened by an ability called "lovetap"
We don't know what it does. It could even decide the lynch!
Or force a no-lynch...
We'd probably have no idea who did it.
I am scared of unknown, is that bad?
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On June 23 2013 21:54 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 21:53 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:52 Dandel Ion wrote:On June 23 2013 21:50 Kurumi wrote:On June 23 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw, if the lovetap was a big deal the role creator would have said by now.
he didn't so it's a) not or b) fake
either way no harm done anyways Well, maybe role creator and sk8r are mafia together? Or maybe third party? whatever I'm not threatened by an ability called "lovetap" We don't know what it does. It could even decide the lynch! Or force a no-lynch... We'd probably have no idea who did it. I am scared of unknown, is that bad? It's american. Dunno if that's bad. btdubz, krumumi, you were the one that made my role in themed right?
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