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On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 29 2013 01:41 Crossfire99 wrote:well gonzaw, i'm not lying. the hosts condradicted themselves. On June 28 2013 12:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
so i got some answers gonzaw. The TARDIS activates immediately. The only way a dayvig shot can be bus driven by the TARDIS is if the person getting shot has the TARDIS.
Gonzaw, the only restriction on who can have the TARDIS is that if 2 scum have the TARDIS in a row, they can't choose who to pass it to for the next person, so it is random. Because Kurumi just had it and died, it was randomly distributed and anyone can have it no restrictions.
As for what option to choose. I actually don't know if it is a good choice for me to use the rubber duck now knowing what we know. The only way scum can get dayvigged is if they don't have the TARDIS, but that means they will still have it tonight. Them being able to busdrive will mess us up. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to have my bus drive ability to use to tonight to give scum something to worry about. I know this is difficult for you to allow because you think I might be scum, but I think we are in such desperate straights that we need to do something to save ourselves. I won't make my choice now, but I'm just throwing this out there. I got those answers from sent. Today i got answers from dec. and they're different. He told me that i don't know when teh tardis activates. He told me the TARDIS supersedes all day actions which means to mean that whoever has the TARDIS can do whatever they want. I specifically asked about silent dayvigs and what not. and to further muddle the waters, sent told me i get my day ability now and dec told me i get it tonight. How does this change the fact that someone would have had to protect OR bus MZ in 9 minutes, unless the TARDIS can undo the fucking shot after MZ flipped. Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 06:23 Crossfire99 wrote:On June 24 2013 06:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:There is no way he picked up a mason, or the Mason would have been shot as well. The role clearly says Pick up companion - you pick up a companion. Your companion travels with you in your TARDIS and anything that happens to you also happens to him. You may only have one companion at once. You share a mason chat with your companion. Yeah you're right. I didn't think through that completely, I just saw him post asking about masons immediately after solstice got shot, but before his role was revealed and then the Doctor was revealed to be able to mason people, so I got suspicious. I jumped the gun a little. Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 06:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jack the ripper has claimed another victim Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 07:00 deconduo wrote:Rose Tyler had been acting increasingly suspicious, and eventually someone acted on it. A sword ripped through her stomach and she dissolved into a heap of fleshy goo. Colonel Manton laughed far away in his control room, "Looks like they figured out about our Doppelgängers." A voice responded from the shadows, "Looks like you forgot to watch your back" Meapak_Ziphh as Rose Tyler as Colonel Manton has been eviscerated. + Show Spoiler +You are Colonel Manton
In order to trick the doctor you and your allies have kidnapped and disguised as some of his allies. In addition you have taken their powers. [Redacted]
Your allies are:
[Redacted]
You have a [Redacted]
You win with The Church
Your disguise is as follows:
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You are Rose Tyler!
You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking.
During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing.
At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business.
In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself.
Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power.
You win with The Alliance I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself.
How could you have gotten sk8 to give it to you quietly exactly?
I also don't see how that proves you and kita aren't the same alignment, especially if you wanted to avoid it going to someone random because scum got it twice.
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I'm responding just to rip this to pieces:
On June 29 2013 01:23 kitaman27 wrote:
So let me get this straight:
geript, xfire, and I are scum buddies.
I decide to claim in the thread about the TARDIS, knowing that xfire created it, because outing two scum members is totally worth the one-shot medic protect.
When would two scum members be outed?
See how no one was outed until I just realized it a little while ago?
You already "outed" yourself by fake-claiming Survivor. If you assumed you could play it off (i.e if you assumed nobody would think you are actually mafia, or at least not think too much about how you knew about the TARDIS even if they did), then Xfire would be safe, just as he was until now.
Again, specially if you thought geript would be safe as well.
xfire decided to claim in the thread that he created the TARDIS role to implicate himself, because why not?!
Claiming he created the TARDIS to gain townie points is a good choice yes.
He would need to do so at some point wouldn't he? Specially if sk8 said something like "hey guys? Like...Xfire made my role and he created the TARDIS and he hasn't said anything about it....just so you know"
Kurumi is lying about the TARDIS getting drained because he likes to troll town and my role has nothing to do with the TARDIS.
That can be explained by a hidden "cooldown" effect being given to the TARDIS by either of these reasons:
1)Xfire gave that indication to the hosts, but didn't put it in the role PM (I did this a lot with the role I gave to Xfire, and I did it in the last PTP I played)
2)Hosts nerfed it without anybody realizing it
Geript decides to use his day vig power on myself, knowing that I have the bus drive ability and can bus the results of the vote to any player, but rather than challenging someone like Sk8r and busing a shot from Sk8r to BC anonymously, he wants to shoot his scum buddy and implicate the two of us even more.
lol you fucking kidding me?
Because geript challenging Sk8 out of nowhere wouldn't be scummy at all, yeah sure.
Also, until people figured it out (because you 2 were scummy as fuck in their eyes), geript was like "confirmed town" because of that. Well, at least I personally fell for it, since there'd be no reason for scum geript to randomly choose to kill you in MK.
Doing what he did, geript:
-Killed a townie of his choice
-Gave him townie points because he used his day vig on claimed anti-town instead of a townie
-Confused the hell out of town, both on the MK thing and Dandel dying
Yeah, because those aren't enough reasons to do that shit...
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I would post a picture of a flail because of all this flailing being done by the scumteam right now, but Sent will yell at me and I'm just a head so I can't duel him with lightsabres.
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On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote:
I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself.
On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote:
Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi.
So kita is 3P, and you are not the same alignment as kita?
Thank god! This means we don't have 2 survivors!
Unfortunately, it still means you can be scum (hint: scum have different alignment than 3P)
Also maybe you have slipped there that you are treating kita as scum (with the "I'm not the same alignment as him" comment and the next one), when you specifically said you think he's 3P now
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Fuck this these are just too many coincidence and it assumes the hosts are the greatest fucktards in the world that contradict themselves and break the game, so I'll treat Xfire as scum with kita+geript until convinced otherwise.
Therefore, Xfire, please choose option (3) (Use Rubber Duck).
You'll gain votethief which I don't like scum to have, but at least you won't have bus driver so we can kill kita tonight.
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On June 29 2013 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
I would post a picture of a flail because of all this flailing being done by the scumteam right now, but Sent will yell at me and I'm just a head so I can't duel him with lightsabres.
All I have is a claymore with geript's dried-up blood on it.
But I believe Dec can shoot lightning out of his anus so that's another story
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On June 29 2013 02:07 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote:
I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself. Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote:
Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. So kita is 3P, and you are not the same alignment as kita? Thank god! This means we don't have 2 survivors! Unfortunately, it still means you can be scum (hint: scum have different alignment than 3P) Also maybe you have slipped there that you are treating kita as scum (with the "I'm not the same alignment as him" comment and the next one), when you specifically said you think he's 3P now
Ugh. I don't know what i can do to convince you guys i'm not scum. How about this? Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice. We have all our dayvigs accounted for day 2. We know that I and austin can't be the mason dayvig role, so who has it? xata or kita? One of them is going to kill us again today, because they will have been recharged. P.S austin either lied or mistakenly said that zeph created meapak's role. I'm thinking lied because i believe kita's third party claim because i don't see him knowing about the TARDIS unless he's third party because I know I'm town.
Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me.
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Hey Xfire:
On June 29 2013 01:48 gonzaw wrote:
Speaking of which, would you mind explaining that "Xata claimed he wasn't RBed" thing?
Please explain
On June 29 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
It might be the confidence is a massive bluff and the TARDIS can't be used anymore...? I don't know if that's a risk we can take.
Sk8 and SnB fucked us over so hard.
If it was just 'used twice--->gets drained' then why wouldn't it have been in Sk8's role PM? I can't see hosts nerfing something and not telling the guy who HAS the fucking role.
Why isn't it possible? IF Xfire told them not to tell him that it's possible.
If the hosts wanted to nerf the role without altering the role PM it's possible.
From what I gather, it's not that sk8 is the "master of the tardis", he's just a guy that has the TARDIS at the beginning of the game, thus he would get the same info as any other player that gets the TARDIS.
If Xfire/hosts don't want those players to know that info about the TARDIS, then they wouldn't want sk8 to know either.
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On June 29 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote:Hey Xfire: Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:48 gonzaw wrote:
Speaking of which, would you mind explaining that "Xata claimed he wasn't RBed" thing? Please explain Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
It might be the confidence is a massive bluff and the TARDIS can't be used anymore...? I don't know if that's a risk we can take.
Sk8 and SnB fucked us over so hard.
If it was just 'used twice--->gets drained' then why wouldn't it have been in Sk8's role PM? I can't see hosts nerfing something and not telling the guy who HAS the fucking role. Why isn't it possible? IF Xfire told them not to tell him that it's possible. If the hosts wanted to nerf the role without altering the role PM it's possible. From what I gather, it's not that sk8 is the "master of the tardis", he's just a guy that has the TARDIS at the beginning of the game, thus he would get the same info as any other player that gets the TARDIS. If Xfire/hosts don't want those players to know that info about the TARDIS, then they wouldn't want sk8 to know either.
Ok I didn't know that kind of thing was possible.
I forgot about the other roles that were created by the dead people...this mason/dayvig business. Masoning could also explain how kita knew about the TARDIS but if this is true then it changes everything we've talked about.
I think at this point we need a list of the roles and who created them....and for those we don't know we at least need to write down what was claimed about them.
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On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 02:07 gonzaw wrote:On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote:
I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself. On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote:
Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. So kita is 3P, and you are not the same alignment as kita? Thank god! This means we don't have 2 survivors! Unfortunately, it still means you can be scum (hint: scum have different alignment than 3P) Also maybe you have slipped there that you are treating kita as scum (with the "I'm not the same alignment as him" comment and the next one), when you specifically said you think he's 3P now Ugh. I don't know what i can do to convince you guys i'm not scum. How about this? Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice. We have all our dayvigs accounted for day 2. We know that I and austin can't be the mason dayvig role, so who has it? xata or kita? One of them is going to kill us again today, because they will have been recharged. P.S austin either lied or mistakenly said that zeph created meapak's role. I'm thinking lied because i believe kita's third party claim because i don't see him knowing about the TARDIS unless he's third party because I know I'm town. Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me.
Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice
Meapaks' role is a mason and has a day vig bullet
Granted, MZ would have NEEDED to post in the thread to kill him, so it would have been silently.
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Anyways, this is good, because we now know with 80% certainty one of these is true:
These are the only possible configuration of players+alignments:
(Read Xfire's post here to figure out why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=113#2247 )
Option 1:
kita is 3rd party
Xfire is town
Austin is scum
Xatalos is scum
Option 2:
kita is scum
Xfire is scum
Austin is town
Xatalos is town
So choose people! I'll take bets!
So, Austin+Xata you should like make a case on kita and Xfire being scumbuddies and shit (although I kind of already did it for you)
Xfire, make a case for Austin+Xata being scumbuddies. Please explain Xata's tunnel on austin, and all the shit that needs to be explained.
Disclaimer: I'm assuming there are either 3 scum and 1 3P, or 4 scum. If it's not actually like that the above options may differ....and if it's not actually like that fuck the system dear god
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This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
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On June 29 2013 02:24 gonzaw wrote:Anyways, this is good, because we now know with 80% certainty one of these is true:These are the only possible configuration of players+alignments:(Read Xfire's post here to figure out why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=113#2247 )Option 1:kita is 3rd party
Xfire is town
Austin is scum
Xatalos is scumOption 2:kita is scum
Xfire is scum
Austin is town
Xatalos is townSo choose people! I'll take bets!So, Austin+Xata you should like make a case on kita and Xfire being scumbuddies and shit (although I kind of already did it for you) Xfire, make a case for Austin+Xata being scumbuddies. Please explain Xata's tunnel on austin, and all the shit that needs to be explained. Disclaimer: I'm assuming there are either 3 scum and 1 3P, or 4 scum. If it's not actually like that the above options may differ....and if it's not actually like that fuck the system dear god
Your 1st option has 4 scum and 3p.
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EBWOP:
Disclaimer: I'm assuming there are either 4 scum and 1 3P, or 4 scum. If it's not actually like that the above options may differ....and if it's not actually like that fuck the system dear god
If option 1 is the true case...I don't know if there is only just 3 scum and 1 3P, in which case only 1 of austin/Xata is scum.
Discuss
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Fuck it let me post it again:
Option 1.0:
kita is 3rd party
Xfire is town
Austin is scum
Xatalos is scum
Option 1.1:
kita is 3rd party
Xfire is town
Austin is town
Xatalos is scum
Option 1.2:
kita is 3rd party
Xfire is town
Austin is scum
Xatalos is town
Option 2:
kita is scum
Xfire is scum
Austin is town
Xatalos is town
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Xfire, austin, Xata, post your cases
Dandel, WOS, BC, let's discuss this shit.
Suddenly the game got a lot more interesting didn't it?
I can't believe we figured all this shit out just because of that "obvious" detail about kita nobody noticed lol
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On June 29 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote:Hey Xfire: Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:48 gonzaw wrote:
Speaking of which, would you mind explaining that "Xata claimed he wasn't RBed" thing? Please explain Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
It might be the confidence is a massive bluff and the TARDIS can't be used anymore...? I don't know if that's a risk we can take.
Sk8 and SnB fucked us over so hard.
If it was just 'used twice--->gets drained' then why wouldn't it have been in Sk8's role PM? I can't see hosts nerfing something and not telling the guy who HAS the fucking role. Why isn't it possible? IF Xfire told them not to tell him that it's possible. If the hosts wanted to nerf the role without altering the role PM it's possible. From what I gather, it's not that sk8 is the "master of the tardis", he's just a guy that has the TARDIS at the beginning of the game, thus he would get the same info as any other player that gets the TARDIS. If Xfire/hosts don't want those players to know that info about the TARDIS, then they wouldn't want sk8 to know either.
I can't explain about the tardis being drained. Everything I wrote is in sk8r's role pm. He just started with the TARDIS. The hosts must have done something with it because I didn't have any restrictions on the TARDIS. The thing is that sk8r used the tardis both day and night 1 because you have to use it in order to pass it.
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On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote:
This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
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On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote:
This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
Why?
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On June 29 2013 02:34 gonzaw wrote:
Xfire, austin, Xata, post your cases
Dandel, WOS, BC, let's discuss this shit.
Suddenly the game got a lot more interesting didn't it?
I can't believe we figured all this shit out just because of that "obvious" detail about kita nobody noticed lol
Not really I'm actually really bored atm.
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