I've actually gotta go to work for a couple hours but I'll do my best to make up for my generally shit D1 play with some serious work tonight. Optimally I make it so scum has to shoot me.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:22 GMT

#1397

Honestly as scum I could see Marv still getting riled up over something straight-up terrible like DI. Scum players get mad as well. It's also worth noting that Marv is a sly fox, and this kidn of thing wouldn't be beyond his gran cleverness. I think, though, this is more indicative of Dandel's alignment than of Marv's. The intentional riling is not town-motivated.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:22 GMT

#1398

Just to be clear: I have a town-read on marv. I Masoned him because he's the guy i'll be most productive with also

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:25 GMT

#1400

Marv is definitely the kind of guy who gets riled up. I consider the action of riling to be scummy, whereas the getting-riled is not.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:25 GMT

#1401

omg 12k!

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:29 GMT

#1404

On May 20 2013 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:

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I would have preferred it if you had masoned someone the town agreed on to prevent shenanigans personally.

Interesting, but not really relevant. There's no choice more optimal than Marv. We work well together, he's smart, he's active and is around all the time, and I have a townread on him. He may not be as townread-ey to me as you are, but I don't interact well with you and my time wouldn't be as well-spent.

If you think there are shenanigans going on, and want to posit a Marv+BH scumteam, come at us bro

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:32 GMT

#1406

On May 20 2013 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Grits.
While I agree with you that your statement is more likely, can you honestly tell me you've never attempted to rile up someone you believe to be scum, as town, knowing you and your play?

I definitely try to rile people up all the time. Although there are times and places to put people on tilt, putting Marv on tilt doesn't tell us a huge amount about his alignment and actually decreases his usefulness to town (as town) or reduces the amount of info we have to work off of regarding him (if he's scum). I don't see it as a good move unless you're sure he's scum and are trying to manipulate thread opinion to make him look bad and build a wagon up.

Tldr although there is a time and place for it that was neither the time nor the place-- the move was antitown

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:33 GMT

#1407

On May 20 2013 12:32 DarthPunk wrote:

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I mean it is not impossible for you to be scum together is it. Regardless tomorrow night you can mason someone we pre determine if it comes to that.

or I could just mason someone who I want to mason. get off my balls. by Night3 I'm confirmed town anyways, i'll just mason a different person each night

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:34 GMT

#1408

oh wait, right I could be a mafia masoner

look the point is, if you've got a case to make against both me and marv, make it

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:34 GMT

#1409

also there could be 4 scum instead of 3 scum which I guess makes more sense for a 16 player game

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:37 GMT

#1412

Wow if I get lynched for that I'm never gonna live it down am I

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:38 GMT

#1413

On May 20 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:

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You fucking slipped bro.

Scumslips don't exist etc etc

Well, I guess I'm not getting shot tonight any more.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:39 GMT

#1415

God it's gonna be so hard to get DP off my balls now. I dun stepped in it. Come on man, that's not even a scumslip.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:41 GMT

#1418

On May 20 2013 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Explain it to me like I'm an idiot. How is what he said about Night 3 a scumslip?

I assumed this game was a 3-scum game. If this were a 3-scum game, by night 3 I'll have masoned a 3rd person, it's no longer possible we're all scum together.

The OP Does not state the number of scum, and for 16 players 4 would be more normal. DP assumes that I assumed 3 scum due to outside knowledge (ie being in the scum QT) and is attacking me based on that.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:42 GMT

#1420

For what it's worth, assuming this is a scum slip, it's a scum slip ONLY a scum MASONER could have made, since he intends to prove his innocence by masoning at least one town player.

So for what it's worth, at least this definitely deflates the "marv and bh scum together, bh not actually a masoner" theory.

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:44 GMT

#1422

I mean, I assumed it, so I stated it as a fact. That's kinda how assumptions work

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:45 GMT

#1423

though I dunno how things are in australia maybe assumptions are different there

Blazinghand

United States25563 Posts

May 20 2013 03:46 GMT

#1424

Mario Mini Mafia:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16895808

On November 14 2012 07:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Scumslips don't exist. Townies "scumslip" as much as scum do. There are scum mindsets and scum ways of doing things, but revealing "extra info" or telling someone you're scum inadvertently happens equally to scum or town. It's self-serving of me to mention this, but it's also true.