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On May 19 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.
Can you see what you are doing? I am being unsure of myself, but thats because imThe thing is; whatever you believe is the best plahy for town, is to find scum, as soon as possible. Nothing else counts. Period. How you achieve this is up to you. You seem like a bright guy, but i think you lack some basic experience (don't get me wrong here). Okay, let's go for hunt scum now? Do you think Goodkarma is suspicious at all?
I do not think he is remotely suspicious as of now, no. My scumreads are s0lstice, Stutters, WoS in that order. to consolidate what I have said so far
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On May 19 2013 06:54 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.
Can you see what you are doing? I am being unsure of myself, but thats because imThe thing is; whatever you believe is the best plahy for town, is to find scum, as soon as possible. Nothing else counts. Period. How you achieve this is up to you. You seem like a bright guy, but i think you lack some basic experience (don't get me wrong here). Okay, let's go for hunt scum now? Do you think Goodkarma is suspicious at all? I do not think he is remotely suspicious as of now, no. My scumreads are s0lstice, Stutters, WoS in that order. to consolidate what I have said so far
Did you read at all what I just wrote?
Marv, your thoughts?
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Hey, lynch GK for D1 scum lynch, maybe we can teach Vayne smth <3
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On May 19 2013 06:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.
Can you see what you are doing? I am being unsure of myself, but thats because im new to this whole lynch the fuck out of some one with PR roles still in play. I am doing my best. vayne, can you explain this better to me please? you've played twice on this forum before this game, where both times there was a lynch day 1, and there was no question of a no-lynch. why are you so surprised about our eagerness to lynch on day 1 given your experiences on this forum so far?
I am more surprised about everyone jumping down my throat when I want to no lynch everytime so I am changing my playstyle so I am not a detriment to the town cause I want to win. does that make sense?
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On May 19 2013 06:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Vayne, the reason consolidating this early looks scummy is because my wagon was the biggest at the time and looks like a safe place for scum to park a vote. There is absolutely zero reason consolidation is necessary with over 24h left to go in a day since lynch wagons are still constantly forming and dying off and there is no danger of a no-lynch... LOL I just realized. Why the FUCK would there ever be a no-lynch in plurality? Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 02:58 goodkarma wrote:
The way he brought up starsenses here was under heavy pressure, as Darthpunk has also pointed out. Also, I couldn't find an instance where the guy OMGUS voted like he did here. In general, this is a very scummy thing. Finally, while Grush may troll quite a lot, I've found there are instances of sanity where he does contribute as town, which I also haven't really seen here.
As for consolidation, yes it's a bit early. But given the last few games I've obs'ed / been in have had profound problems with this, I figured I'd rather push for it sooner than later. I feel Wave is a good lynch for today, so I have no issue switching my vote to him. Yes, there have been recent games where no-lynch may have been an issue (I am not at liberty to speak of more) but that's instant majority where if you don't reach a certain threshold there is a no-lynch. Here you'd specifically have to VOTE for a no-lynch (which you've recently realized we find scummy early game) or there would have to be a tie. Thread non-participation is not an issue here; we WILL see a lynch in 24 ish hours, and that's even IF this thread weren't active, which it is. Fuck this, I'm changing my vote. If sputnik comes back I'll look at him then---just vig him tonight or some shit. ##Unvote
##Vote: Goodkarma
My bad I was getting to you. Again, I do not see anything suspicious about what he said. A scum would read his post more thoroughly and not post something that retarded and obvious in my opinion, or maybe im giving him too much credit. Regardless I do not want to lynch GK right now.
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Wave - I hosted goodkarma's first (I think?) newbie game, number 24.
In this game, in the first 2 days, town had massive problems with consolidation, despite it being plurality lynch. Votes were spread all over the place. Only on day 3 did GK understand the value of consolidation (even in plurality). So that point doesn't ring true to me, just because I know goodkarma was taught a serious lesson about consolidation. You can go read his filter from there, or perhaps you could read my post-game analysis there where I touch on the same things.
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On May 19 2013 06:56 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:53 marvellosity wrote:On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.
Can you see what you are doing? I am being unsure of myself, but thats because im new to this whole lynch the fuck out of some one with PR roles still in play. I am doing my best. vayne, can you explain this better to me please? you've played twice on this forum before this game, where both times there was a lynch day 1, and there was no question of a no-lynch. why are you so surprised about our eagerness to lynch on day 1 given your experiences on this forum so far? I am more surprised about everyone jumping down my throat when I want to no lynch everytime so I am changing my playstyle so I am not a detriment to the town cause I want to win. does that make sense?
Did you claim you want to no-lynch in those games? I guess I'll have to go look for myself.
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On May 19 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Wave - I hosted goodkarma's first (I think?) newbie game, number 24.
In this game, in the first 2 days, town had massive problems with consolidation, despite it being plurality lynch. Votes were spread all over the place. Only on day 3 did GK understand the value of consolidation (even in plurality). So that point doesn't ring true to me, just because I know goodkarma was taught a serious lesson about consolidation. You can go read his filter from there, or perhaps you could read my post-game analysis there where I touch on the same things.
Alright I suppose I can understand this then...sort of....but then why question it yourself at the same time I did?
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I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.
Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why?
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On May 19 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Wave - I hosted goodkarma's first (I think?) newbie game, number 24.
In this game, in the first 2 days, town had massive problems with consolidation, despite it being plurality lynch. Votes were spread all over the place. Only on day 3 did GK understand the value of consolidation (even in plurality). So that point doesn't ring true to me, just because I know goodkarma was taught a serious lesson about consolidation. You can go read his filter from there, or perhaps you could read my post-game analysis there where I touch on the same things. Alright I suppose I can understand this then...sort of....but then why question it yourself at the same time I did?
there's a reason i didn't make a case of it, dear.
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On May 19 2013 07:01 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.
Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why?
he seems active and involved, and he doesn't look that different to any of his other games.
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marv, don't be a bitch, lynch scum (GK) ok?
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On May 19 2013 07:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:01 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.
Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why? he seems active and involved, and he doesn't look that different to any of his other games.
It looks to me like he's just searching for the best town-created wagon to sheep, no?
Honestly, all meta aside, there is almost no difference between GK and WoS except the tone of their posting, and GK seems more inquisitive and insightful versus WoS' aggressiveness and decisiveness.
WoS may be here, posting, but I have yet to see what I expect from WoS, which is actual personal insight into the game versus parroting what people are already saying about players.
I mean, do you think GK is scum? I'm on the fence, to be honest. It's hard to tell whether he seems more like his town game or his scum game.
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And for the record, I do not like Rayn. This influx of spam and hop onto the GK wagon is disturbing.
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I'm leaning scum on GK, purely because of the reason he made a really weak activity related meta read on reyn. That shit is nasty.
Your own words here "Wos' aggressiveness and decisiveness" - you think that's how a first-time mafia player would come across, when it's been pretty clear from past games he's shit-scared of rolling mafia?
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okay im off to bed. let's lynch the guy who misused all the guys meta he was..
good meta you got dood.
lynch gk.
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On May 19 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 06:56 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:53 marvellosity wrote:On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.
Can you see what you are doing? I am being unsure of myself, but thats because im new to this whole lynch the fuck out of some one with PR roles still in play. I am doing my best. vayne, can you explain this better to me please? you've played twice on this forum before this game, where both times there was a lynch day 1, and there was no question of a no-lynch. why are you so surprised about our eagerness to lynch on day 1 given your experiences on this forum so far? I am more surprised about everyone jumping down my throat when I want to no lynch everytime so I am changing my playstyle so I am not a detriment to the town cause I want to win. does that make sense? Did you claim you want to no-lynch in those games? I guess I'll have to go look for myself.
in carnival it was a night start so that game is irrelevant, in the newbie game I said that it was just a guess at this point and I ended up putting my vote on Targe after some analysis who flipped mafia later.
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This is my current thinking
1. Stutters695- very null I feel like im watching a rerun of a cartoon i have seen like 6 times. If he says yo im going to busy for the next 8 hours catch you later i will reach through the computer and bitch slap him
2. iamperfection- Innocent child
3. grush57- Starsenses- he can be vigged though the point that i had to drag it out of him makes sense. Plus he is useless anyways.
4. Blazinghand- Very null. May suffer from sudden amnesia. nothing he has done has shown me that oh shit bh clearly thinking deeply and clearly about the game. I have seen bh derp it up before as town but generally he is super involved even when he is derping it up and im just not getting that feel from him of his overall commitment to town
5. WaveofShadow- i dont know- He dosnt seem that scummy to me reading his filter. Activity is ok seems to care to me probally should have a town read on him
6. JarJarDrinks- summyish more like null though- Has been generally inactive. It was wierd when he was confused on what i meant earlier with him and bh. I dont know what to make of that
7. goodkarma- scum- It seems like to me he is going from easy target to easy target. I dont see much interaction with town it seems he is more interested in trying to justify why he is voting for some or why he is voting then actually trying to figure things out. has been not very active and if you look at the filter i dont see the interaction with town that i would think you would see from a town player. Focused on justification more than figuring it out it looks to me.
8. yamato77- null- want to know why he thinks gk is town because i dont see it.
9. s0Lstice-town for now- Since he dislikes sputnik and gk that seems good to me.
10. VayneAuthority- town- Seems to be making a spectacle of himself thats a townie trait. I ignore most of his posts though
11. sputnik.theory- Scum- THe only thing that bothers me is that he claim vt for good knows what reason which is confusing if he were to be scum. The rest of his filter is complete shit. List post general inactivity not hunting scum.
12. marvellosity-town Our mind meld when we posted the same exact thought about bh's point about jar jar makes me think he is town. Been generally active and seems to care. Probably should only be suspicious of him if i die over him. If that were to happen lean on him heavily for support to figure out the game. If he gets lazy stab him in the back.
13. Spicydinosaur-town Went against thread sentiment with his thoughts on grush would be weird to do that as scum with everyone against him. marv had a point to i guess you can use that lesser argument as well for evidence that he is town.
14. Dandel Ion -town- i Didn't think his shit fest with marv made him scum at all and all his posts in general seem to have been pretty reasonable to me.
15. DarthPunk- town- His pressure on wos seems sincere i also liked his quick answer to my pressure in the beginning. No reason to not think he is town at the moment.
16. raynpelikoneet-null- wants to kill gk and sputnik makes him ok in my book bad activity though
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On May 19 2013 07:07 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:03 marvellosity wrote:On May 19 2013 07:01 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.
Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why? he seems active and involved, and he doesn't look that different to any of his other games. It looks to me like he's just searching for the best town-created wagon to sheep, no? Honestly, all meta aside, there is almost no difference between GK and WoS except the tone of their posting, and GK seems more inquisitive and insightful versus WoS' aggressiveness and decisiveness. WoS may be here, posting, but I have yet to see what I expect from WoS, which is actual personal insight into the game versus parroting what people are already saying about players. I mean, do you think GK is scum? I'm on the fence, to be honest. It's hard to tell whether he seems more like his town game or his scum game.
What the fuck Yamato. I dare you to tell me who I'm parroting.
I was the first person to mention how scummy sputnik is and I'm the only one coming up with constant legit reasons to lynch GK, Rayn started up after I did; he just happened to vote him first.
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On May 19 2013 07:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:07 yamato77 wrote:On May 19 2013 07:03 marvellosity wrote:On May 19 2013 07:01 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.
Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why? he seems active and involved, and he doesn't look that different to any of his other games. It looks to me like he's just searching for the best town-created wagon to sheep, no? Honestly, all meta aside, there is almost no difference between GK and WoS except the tone of their posting, and GK seems more inquisitive and insightful versus WoS' aggressiveness and decisiveness. WoS may be here, posting, but I have yet to see what I expect from WoS, which is actual personal insight into the game versus parroting what people are already saying about players. I mean, do you think GK is scum? I'm on the fence, to be honest. It's hard to tell whether he seems more like his town game or his scum game. What the fuck Yamato. I dare you to tell me who I'm parroting. I was the first person to mention how scummy sputnik is and I'm the only one coming up with constant legit reasons to lynch GK, Rayn started up after I did; he just happened to vote him first.
grush was the first person to mention that sputnik was scummy.
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