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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:02 GMT
#781
On May 19 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay. gk. fu. you are scum. vayne are you okay with this lynch, if yes, why? if not, why?


I trust your judgement so I am okay with the lynch. You seemed to have good scumreads and reasoning in carnival and I know we both flipped town so I think you're an asset.

I am not picking up scum from GK though, null read as of now.

You seem to be kinda bandwagony for a guy who would like a no-lynch for d1???
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:06 GMT
#782
On May 19 2013 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On May 19 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay. gk. fu. you are scum. vayne are you okay with this lynch, if yes, why? if not, why?


I trust your judgement so I am okay with the lynch. You seemed to have good scumreads and reasoning in carnival and I know we both flipped town so I think you're an asset.

I am not picking up scum from GK though, null read as of now.

You seem to be kinda bandwagony for a guy who would like a no-lynch for d1???


People told me not to do that on this site apparently. Should I just stay shitty at this game then?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:11 GMT
#783
Also I am fucking voting who I think is mafia so you are being completely contradictory right now. I ain't bandwagoning shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:13 GMT
#784
On May 19 2013 06:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I am fucking voting who I think is mafia so you are being completely contradictory right now. I ain't bandwagoning shit.

No i'm not. It's okay you are voting for the guy you think is scum, but given your "policy" that makes no sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:15 GMT
#785
btw who are you voting for? it's a policy to most your vote on LT aswell.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:16 GMT
#786
On May 19 2013 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 06:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I am fucking voting who I think is mafia so you are being completely contradictory right now. I ain't bandwagoning shit.

No i'm not. It's okay you are voting for the guy you think is scum, but given your "policy" that makes no sense.


If im going to get berated every game I play in im obviously going to change my policy. Nobody likes no lynch here.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:16 GMT
#787
I voted for s0lstice. ##vote:s0lstice
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#788
I'm not gonna argue why a nolynch is bad, why s0lstice?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 18 2013 21:20 GMT
#789
Vayne why are you null on GK?
Did you read my points against him at all?

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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2013 21:31 GMT
#790
DP - I'm not so sure I like this WoS wagon anymore. What say you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:34 GMT
#791
yo marv, WoS is town.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:34 GMT
#792
On May 18 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:40 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:24 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:21 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta?

Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?


it's pretty simple dude....I just updated it last night so it's a brand new convenience for those who want to use it. that's all.



You did not post it merely for people's convenience, you posted to specifically point out that you were always town.

On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.



Yup, both things are there. I said I'm always town because, like I said, some folks may find it helpful to know. On a personal note, I happen to think it's hilarious that I can't seem to ever draw scum.

That's related to Stutters question that I missed. If you have never played scum before, chances are your first time isn't going to be so graceful. It's just one more piece of the puzzle; it helps me weight any nervousness/silence/inconsistency that I see.


also I find this post suspicious as hell, as if he is trying to meta himself already for the rest of the game. FoS s0lstice


On May 18 2013 07:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On May 18 2013 03:02 s0Lstice wrote:
stutters, you got any scum games you can quickly point me to save me some time?


I point you to exhibition #1, where he directly calls out stutters and asks him if he has any games where hes played scum before. Why? did they roll scum together?

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On May 18 2013 03:06 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:04 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:02 s0Lstice wrote:
stutters, you got any scum games you can quickly point me to save me some time?


OOHHH Let me.

As town, He lurks but sometimes says useful things. As scum, He lurks.


Ohhh but not this time, according to him. Stutters you are forbidden to lurk.


Why is he forbidden to lurk? doesn't want his partner to seem suspicious?

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On May 18 2013 03:40 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:24 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:21 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta?

Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?


it's pretty simple dude....I just updated it last night so it's a brand new convenience for those who want to use it. that's all.



You did not post it merely for people's convenience, you posted to specifically point out that you were always town.

On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.



Yup, both things are there. I said I'm always town because, like I said, some folks may find it helpful to know. On a personal note, I happen to think it's hilarious that I can't seem to ever draw scum.

That's related to Stutters question that I missed. If you have never played scum before, chances are your first time isn't going to be so graceful. It's just one more piece of the puzzle; it helps me weight any nervousness/silence/inconsistency that I see.


worried about how his meta looks and is already consciously considering it so much that he even types it out into the thread.

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On May 18 2013 06:48 s0Lstice wrote:
yea I'm not down with a Vayne lynch right now.

at this moment, I could lynch Stutters though. call it OMGUS if you want, but pulling punches on your initial pressure looks a little weird...see below

On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta?

Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?


also don't like how he jumped on Vayne, seemed almost reflexive

##Vote Stutters695


A common mafia tactic is to go against the bandwagon to look like an independent thinker. Finds the opportunity to throw in a vote for stutter that he believes will never come to fruition as he isnt really pushing it just voting it. One of them flips scum later and the other looks like town.



End of analysis


On May 19 2013 00:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
My input from what I have read

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On May 18 2013 09:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 09:05 iamperfection wrote:
spicy you seem to have an interest in getting reads from me for whatever reason but you avoided the shitfest?

why?


you are one of the more active players and one of the first i filtered. As for the shitfests, I gave my 2 cents on the vayne issue. I knew how he played from our previous game and I saw no reason to jump on the band wagon. As for the marvellosity/ Dandel Ion cluster fuck, I felt it was best I stay clear of it. It turned into some kind of argument of meta gaming that I was unfamiliar with. A lot of guys in here have played dozens of games together and can do the meta argument. Dandel started off by just spewing spam but then it seemed he was doing it for a reason. Then the whole thread seemed to be jumping from one person to another. No reason to jump into a shitfest if I have nothing to add, would be just spam.


Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.

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On May 18 2013 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:

vayne was all the rage a few pages back, but he seems to actually believe in what he says (this is consistent with a dude that builds bt and qss as a core, lol)


whoa bro! I may or may not suck at this game but at least on LoL I can prove that im diamond. I made this account when QSS was good and it is pretty clearly not anymore.

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On May 18 2013 12:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Just catching up now. But I thought I would give some input. This post seems incredibly townie to me. Generally I find townies are the ones who will defend their ego's to the last breath. I don't want to lynch vayne today based on that post alone.


I appreciate the defense and all but could you explain why you brought this up after it was buried under the rug? it would help me a lot in reading you, thanks in advance. Also post your best lynch as of now if you would be so kind. You are one of the most reasonable players here from what I have seen so I really want to know that you aren't scum.

the grush thing: lynching him gives us worthless information, vig should shoot him if there is one and just put it to rest.

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On May 18 2013 13:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh, just as an aside, if WoS thinks he can read me with meta he is wrong like everyone else.

Never said it was meta, breh.
Also HAI GUISE I BACK
Holy fuck I leave for what like 6 hours and I come back to 10+ pages more of thread? Ugh.
K first things first: I have no idea what the fuck went on in that shitstorm between dandel and marv so I'm just fucking ignoring it. Ok, good.

Let's see. Sputnik still hasn't done shit, still scummy, k.
Grush is town, if you vote him you're dumb, k.
Ugh there's too many scumspects out there right now I have to re-read now and see who people think are scum 'cause I can't remember.
Oh yeah JJD is one. Looks scum, but I'd put him in the same category as sputnik right now; I'd like to see more from him but right now he looks shit. Vote staying on sputnik though.
Going back and reading.


This post is incredibly bad. Its not even asking anyone to stop lurking or stop being bad, just hey these players are bad lets kill them off. Fine to lynch this guy.

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On May 18 2013 13:27 s0Lstice wrote:
It'd be sputnik, and I'd feel ok about it.

What you were saying about Marv and his descent from rage was compelling though. Something caught my eye while reading the whole Marv/Dandel exchange

On May 18 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
anyways, i gotta go to bed.

apologies to anyone i riled and vice versa, but i think it came in useful. i think we have some really good targets for tomorrow.


the apology....as Marv has done this before, I wondered if he ever has apologized for it. If he has done this before but never really showed any sign of guilt, then that is something. I've been digging through personality to see. Need to look at his scum games as well, its a fat wad of meta to get through. Still though, food for thought.


Im almost tunneling at this point but another ridiculous waffling post from s0lstice. hey guyz id feel "ok" about this, blah blah summary, food for thought bunch of other bs. Its like he doesnt want to associate himself to any flips.

I am honestly seeing the start of a stutters/s0lstice/WoS mafia here. I just need the night killings to confirm it now. I will be putting my vote on s0lstice as he is the most suspicious to me.


Here is what I have said about s0lstice so far rayn.

WaveofShadow: I dont understand how consolidating a vote is scummy but you can try and explain. I was leaning more on you being mafia than GK so yea...
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2013 21:35 GMT
#793
On May 19 2013 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yo marv, WoS is town.


wasn't asking you, bitch <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:40 GMT
#794
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.

Can you see what you are doing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:41 GMT
#795
On May 19 2013 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yo marv, WoS is town.


wasn't asking you, bitch <3

sry baby :/
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2013 21:45 GMT
#796
On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.

Can you see what you are doing?


I am being unsure of myself, but thats because im new to this whole lynch the fuck out of some one with PR roles still in play. I am doing my best.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 18 2013 21:49 GMT
#797
Vayne, the reason consolidating this early looks scummy is because my wagon was the biggest at the time and looks like a safe place for scum to park a vote. There is absolutely zero reason consolidation is necessary with over 24h left to go in a day since lynch wagons are still constantly forming and dying off and there is no danger of a no-lynch...


LOL I just realized. Why the FUCK would there ever be a no-lynch in plurality?
On May 19 2013 02:58 goodkarma wrote:
The way he brought up starsenses here was under heavy pressure, as Darthpunk has also pointed out. Also, I couldn't find an instance where the guy OMGUS voted like he did here. In general, this is a very scummy thing. Finally, while Grush may troll quite a lot, I've found there are instances of sanity where he does contribute as town, which I also haven't really seen here.

As for consolidation, yes it's a bit early. But given the last few games I've obs'ed / been in have had profound problems with this, I figured I'd rather push for it sooner than later.
I feel Wave is a good lynch for today, so I have no issue switching my vote to him.

Yes, there have been recent games where no-lynch may have been an issue (I am not at liberty to speak of more) but that's instant majority where if you don't reach a certain threshold there is a no-lynch. Here you'd specifically have to VOTE for a no-lynch (which you've recently realized we find scummy early game) or there would have to be a tie. Thread non-participation is not an issue here; we WILL see a lynch in 24 ish hours, and that's even IF this thread weren't active, which it is.

Fuck this, I'm changing my vote. If sputnik comes back I'll look at him then---just vig him tonight or some shit.
##Unvote
##Vote: Goodkarma
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:51 GMT
#798
On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.

Can you see what you are doing?


I am being unsure of myself, but thats because imThe thing is; whatever you believe is the best plahy for town, is to find scum, as soon as possible. Nothing else counts. Period. How you achieve this is up to you.


You seem like a bright guy, but i think you lack some basic experience (don't get me wrong here). Okay, let's go for hunt scum now?

Do you think Goodkarma is suspicious at all?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 18 2013 21:53 GMT
#799
On May 19 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne, i do not think your case is good. At all.
One point why you call him suspicious: Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.

Can you see what you are doing?


I am being unsure of myself, but thats because im new to this whole lynch the fuck out of some one with PR roles still in play. I am doing my best.


vayne, can you explain this better to me please?

you've played twice on this forum before this game, where both times there was a lynch day 1, and there was no question of a no-lynch.

why are you so surprised about our eagerness to lynch on day 1 given your experiences on this forum so far?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 18 2013 21:54 GMT
#800
blah, failed at quoting....
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