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Vivax it's okay that you're trolling a bit but please don't make this another Personality 2 mafia. That game was bad for all (town) parties involved and your excessive spam was big part of that. In fact everybody should consolidate because this game is going to be complicated enough with all the themed stuff going on. | ||
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How the hell do you know anything about the setup? This is N0 and it's a closed setup. | ||
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@ObviousOne Are you serious? | ||
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Why isn't Viscera "MostActiveGuyInMafia" Eyes around? | ||
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On May 14 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote: Good to see you're available for some conversation. I wrote the reasons already, just read my filter. I would also like if you gave a good summary of what's on your mind currently, read-wise. You mentioned Hiro, no reasoning. You said SlOosh sucks, no idea what you wanted. You abruptly stopped contributing after your early questions. You don't look like you want to win this game, but sure made it look like it very early in the game. I read your filter. I don't have a lot of reads right now, mainly a few tentative town reads. I have a bad feeling about HiroPro, he doesn't seem to care much about this game after putting his vote down and some of his posting seems weirdly constructed. How do you feel about HiroPro? I said slOosh sucked because at the time and in the context of his performance as of then, he blew. I am sure you agree. Okay. I remember ObviousOne doing some ridiculously trolly post and then I thought "There's nothing in this thread right now that I want to participate in". Now why exactly am I scum? If you're town I don't want this to turn into a Vivax tunnel like you did marvellosity in Personality 2 because as Acrofales said after the game, scum couldn't wait for you to make another post. If you're scum then carry on. | ||
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On May 14 2013 18:48 Vivax wrote: Isn't having a bad feeling about Hiro, a scumread? Could you point out which posts you are alluding to? I have my eye on Hiro but nothing that really sticks out to me yet. So you were around at the time after you stopped posting? If I were tunneling you I wouldn't be asking you these questions. Just lay back and let's talk a little. Like how he says that WaveofShadow is town because of how WaveofShadow asked chaoser about RebirthOfLeGenD. What the hell does that have to do with anything, that was completely alignment neutral and was probably just because WaveofShadow was curious. His vote on ObviousOne seems extremely confident (especially considering that it was not very long into the game) yet he does nothing to push the lynch after that. I remember that game where HiroPro was scum with Palmar and Ange777 and I figured him out because he wasn't all over the place and voting 10 different people, he was just tunneling me, don't know exactly what game that was but maybe HiroPro can remember it. He also wants to lynch shirokami who doesn't seem like scum to me. I left around 30 secs after I asked ObviousOne if he was serious. Now, for the third time, why exactly am I scum? | ||
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On May 14 2013 19:46 Oatsmaster wrote: uhuh. Prp, the last time you played scum was LIX right? Uh I don't remember but I am pretty sure I haven't been scum for like 5 games. I think Dwarf Fortress was my last scum game. | ||
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Like I said before I want to lynch HiroPro. The guy made an early poke and then he did nothing. Reminds me a lot of [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&user=258487]Rockband Mafia where I thought he was scum for the same reasons (and I was right). Then I fakeclaimed Vigilante as town while my mason buddy claimed that we were masoned. HiroPro's activity drop along with this meta read and then just a general feeling of scum when you read his post means that he's the best lynch today. ##Vote HiroPro I'm going to bed soon so if you have anything then let me know.[/b] | ||
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VayneAuthority could very well be scum. From his filter he seems like a thoughtful guy but his case on me is just bullshit and when confronted with that he doesn't try to explain himself, he simply launches an ad hominem. Why would he do that if he thinks I'm scum who is just calling his case bad? It seems like he's just uncomfortable with my opinion on him because he knows I'm town. ##Vote VayneAuthority Good night. | ||
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On May 15 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much guarantees my opinion that hes scum right here, the old nice cop/bad cop routine. Dude seems cool and thoughtful and blah blah blah....hes scum! doesn't get any worse than that for me. Won't be changing my vote ever. LOL I complain about how he's not acting like he thinks scum and then he goes full "okay i need to act like i think he's scum" and comes up with this. Okay bed for real now. | ||
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It seems genuine and also I actually like some of it, mostly the second part. | ||
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I didn't vote yet. I also think I'd rather lynch kushm4sta. I'll write a case around noon (6 hours from now). | ||
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The guy hasn't notably pushed anything hard this game. He's fine being lurkish and just poking in here and there. I don't really find that to be scummy in itself but it's not a town tell either. What my problem with kusm4sta is is how he's focused on himself and how he himself appears and not about other people. This is especially prevalent in his early game with posts like this and this and this. Those posts have only one purpose: showing people that he doesn't care about how he appears, but by being so blatant about it becomes apparent that he very much cares about how he appears to other players. Contrast his early posts from Dessert Mini Mafia where he was town. In this post which is one of his very first he comes out pretty strong with a "I'm going to tell you a scum read in a second", there's no focus on how he appears but focus only on contributing. Read for yourself, the filters are pretty short: Dessert Mini Mafia This game I also find this post very off. First of all he is promising us something very insubstantial: "more activity", it's really hard to hold people up on that. He's also promising it to us "second half of the game" but when is that? This game could end in a few days or it could drag on until 3 players left. He's promising us nothing and at a time no townie knows when is. I imagine townies who were busy would say "I am busy this weekend, will post something after" or something like that, not say "I am busy for the first half of the game"?! And then look at his latest post: On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote: But if you did get scum, you would still spam. First kushm4sta says that WaveofShadow spams as scum but he has absolutely no way to know this as WaveofShadow has never been scum. He is literally making things up here and there is NO townie motivation for this. His response also seems really nervous in that he makes a weird jokish comment on it like it means nothing when WaveofShadow has actually caught him in a direct lie that no townie would ever make. Would you as town ever say that someone is acting like last time he was scum, when he has never rolled scum before? He also says it in a weirdly reassuring manner "Don't worry guys, just lynch him". Anyway, lets lynch kushm4sta. ##Vote kushm4sta | ||
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On May 17 2013 23:55 Blazinghand wrote: Although you've noted a small thing that he did in one game as town that he's not doing this game, you have failed horribly at meta because you haven't shown that it's something kush does as scum. Meta cases can't just be "I usually see him do this as town and he's not", it has to be "He does X as town and Y as scum, and this game he is doing Y". This is because people's play varies from game to game even within their alignment. People are busier or more or less active or just have good or bad analysis games. Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?! Show me where he does this as scum OR tell me you have a red check on him OR tell me this is a policy lynch. Until then I will not unvote ##unvote ##vote prplhz LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a meta case, this is me saying that kushm4sta's early game doesn't look like his town game and contains general traits that are indisputably scummy AND he has been caught in a straight up lie that no townie would ever do. No I'm not going to make this into a pure meta case because you vote me. Jesus christ. Seriously look at it: "Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?!" So what?! So that's a pretty good sign that something might be up. Can anybody tell BlazingHand that he's being completely ludicrous. | ||
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I need to sleep now but we absolutely need a lynch today, lynches are really important and we can't have scum kill three times in a row without us lynching a single person. For some reason kushm4sta isn't happening but I'm kinda fine with HiroPro too. ##Vote HiroPro | ||
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BlazingHand defended kushm4sta from a straight up lie by saying "that's not scummy in itself". Do you understand that kushm4sta straight up lied about something a townie would never lie about and BlazingHand defended him because he had said earlier that he wanted meta on a kushm4sta case? My case had some comparison to Dessert Mafia but BlazingHand said that kushm4sta couldn't be guilty unless I could show that kushm4sta lies as scum. Anybody? @ObviousOne I'd respond to your case on me but it's all about what someone else said. I can't really argue against being on some offhane 3 people list that BlazingHand made at some point in this game. Also, you can check out the timezones, lynch is at 6AM for me and I'm usually not around at that time nor around 6 hours before. Don't like your case at all. I have no idea why people are suddenly going for BlazingHand's main scum read, someone he went out of his way to call scum. If I were scum don't you think he'd just tell me that my case on kushm4sta was bad because it didn't have meta? Instead he actually called me scum because of it and out of nowhere. kushm4sta didn't even give that a single thought, just full tunnel mode engaged. | ||
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I'll look more closely into them. | ||
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On May 19 2013 19:44 kushm4sta wrote: usually a bad play to lynch town. @VE dude you just start screaming in all caps out of no where. Usually a push comes after a case but there wasn't one. I hope you aren't wasting your time writing an epically misguided case on me right now... @PRPLHZ WHAT WAS THE LIE On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote: But if you did get scum, you would still spam. @ObviousOne your case on me is a joke. Just gonna quote this: "1 mafia 2 town? Standard right? Possibly." You are literally saying that I am scum because I was on some arbitrary list where you think scum might or might not be found. Those are your own words. And then I am scum because I don't want to lynch ... one of your town reads. Those are literally your points. You are scrambling in panic to lynch me and I don't like that at all. I don't know what the hell is going on but kushm4sta and ObviousOne are probably scum can we just lynch kushm4sta now? | ||
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Where is marvellosity or yamato77 when you need them. | ||
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On May 19 2013 05:49 kushm4sta wrote: quadruple post for mafia justice. read his filter its only 2 pages there are myriad reasons why the man is scum.. 1 robotic overuse of misapplied meta in his arguments 2 constantly talking about past games instead of this game 3 vayne tunneling him, sure he's scum. then vayne dies 4 his top scumread is hiro d1. Nothing he says ever indicates that that changes. Yet on d2 he makes this random ass out of the blue case on me to distance himself from the hiro mislynch. If you are town and your top scumread has a huge bandwagon, why wouldn't you help push that wagon instead of introducing some lynch that's never going to happen. 5 his longest post in the game is about me. If you think I'm scummy, fine, but my content was so paltry at that time that a wall of text to analyze it is going way overboard. 1 Where? and no I'm not. 2 Where? and no I'm not. 3 I simply just find it weird that you know who scum killed. Three dead on n2, how do you know why they were killed? I doubt that scum even killed them all and I have been under the impression that Vivax killed VayneAuthority and raynpelikoneet and Vivax were scum killed but for some reason you seem to know something that I don't really find very likely and now you're using it to push me. This is horrible night kill speculation just to incriminate me. 4 This is absolutely not what happened you are just making shit up. I got a stronger read on you so I voted for you but you'll notice that my vote was on HiroPro way before the lynch happened. I was concerned with getting a lynch because d1 was a no lynch and I didn't want to give scum 3 rounds of shots before we could get a single lynch off. You're right now complaining that I'm pushing you early in the day when it's not going to happen, well what do you know about what lynches are going to happen? It's the same on d2, you could have gotten lynched but people wanted to go with HiroPro and I wasn't really opposed to that and I really wanted a lynch so 6 hours before deadline when it didn't look like you were getting lynched, I switched to HiroPro. 5 Where did I write a wall of text? Your case is horrible and there isn't a single point in there that even suggests that I'm scum. Your initial case was something like "He's trying to help town" which is completely backwards. | ||
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On May 19 2013 23:48 kushm4sta wrote: prplhz scum diaries + Show Spoiler + On May 13 2013 03:31 prplhz wrote: The last Ace game I played in was Death Factory 2 and that game was complicated as nothing I've ever tried before or since. I suggest that everybody does what Ace suggested post game: keep a file where you write down role and theme related stuff that has happened. Just about everybody in that game had three unique powers and it became a huge problem to remember who did what and when. On May 13 2013 03:48 prplhz wrote: We should just ignore DarthPunk's claim for now. Vivax it's okay that you're trolling a bit but please don't make this another Personality 2 mafia. That game was bad for all (town) parties involved and your excessive spam was big part of that. In fact everybody should consolidate because this game is going to be complicated enough with all the themed stuff going on. On May 14 2013 18:37 prplhz wrote: I read your filter. I don't have a lot of reads right now, mainly a few tentative town reads. I have a bad feeling about HiroPro, he doesn't seem to care much about this game after putting his vote down and some of his posting seems weirdly constructed. How do you feel about HiroPro? I said slOosh sucked because at the time and in the context of his performance as of then, he blew. I am sure you agree. Okay. I remember ObviousOne doing some ridiculously trolly post and then I thought "There's nothing in this thread right now that I want to participate in". Now why exactly am I scum? If you're town I don't want this to turn into a Vivax tunnel like you did marvellosity in Personality 2 because as Acrofales said after the game, scum couldn't wait for you to make another post. If you're scum then carry on. On May 14 2013 20:21 prplhz wrote: Like how he says that WaveofShadow is town because of how WaveofShadow asked chaoser about RebirthOfLeGenD. What the hell does that have to do with anything, that was completely alignment neutral and was probably just because WaveofShadow was curious. His vote on ObviousOne seems extremely confident (especially considering that it was not very long into the game) yet he does nothing to push the lynch after that. I remember that game where HiroPro was scum with Palmar and Ange777 and I figured him out because he wasn't all over the place and voting 10 different people, he was just tunneling me, don't know exactly what game that was but maybe HiroPro can remember it. He also wants to lynch shirokami who doesn't seem like scum to me. I left around 30 secs after I asked ObviousOne if he was serious. Now, for the third time, why exactly am I scum? On May 14 2013 20:21 prplhz wrote: Uh I don't remember but I am pretty sure I haven't been scum for like 5 games. I think Dwarf Fortress was my last scum game. On May 15 2013 05:52 prplhz wrote: Well I for one don't feel this WaveofShadow lynch at all. The guy is simply just way too active and the arguments against him aren't convincing at all. He also got himself into a lot of trouble last town game he played so apparently it's his thing. His defense seems pretty real. Like I said before I want to lynch HiroPro. The guy made an early poke and then he did nothing. Reminds me a lot of Rockband Mafia where I thought he was scum for the same reasons (and I was right). Then I fakeclaimed Vigilante as town while my mason buddy claimed that we were masoned. HiroPro's activity drop along with this meta read and then just a general feeling of scum when you read his post means that he's the best lynch today. ##Vote HiroPro I'm going to bed soon so if you have anything then let me know. THAT is just page 1 of your filter. All your posts but one either mention another game or is a one-liner. Can you state your god damn problem with my post instead of just saying that I am talking about another game and then act like that's a problem? First post was literally one of the first posts in the game. I talked about how our host himself recommended in post game of his last game that you take notes. What is your problem? Next post was also one of the first posts where I am trying to prevent that Vivax goes full Personality 2 mode because everyone in that game will agree that that was FAR FROM IDEAL. Same with third post. Why is this a problem? Ask everyone anywhere if Vivax tunneling in Personality 2 was good for town or if it was big part of what was destroying town. Fourth post, I AM LITERALLY ANSWERING A QUESTION BY SOMEONE ELSE. YOU ARE SAYING THAT I AM SCUM BECAUSE I AM ANSWERING A QUESTION SOMEONE POSED ME. You are just making a list of stuff and saying it's scummy but you never explain why it is scummy because it isn't. | ||
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It doesn't get any worse than that. Where is everybody anyway? | ||
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grush just convinced me that my role pm cannot be right | ||
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BETTER HIM THAN ME LOL | ||
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prplhz AMA starts right now | ||
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##outlawz ##wessyde ##Vote shirokami | ||
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On May 25 2013 07:57 Ace wrote: End game post coming soon. Game is over Soon™ | ||
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On May 25 2013 08:35 kushm4sta wrote: can i get a list of the hosts that don't balance their teams? because the majority of hosts on this site would not allow these teams. i don't know where you have that from and i also think it's wrong | ||
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a lot of games this size will be scum 2kp and then drop when scum gets lynched but that just makes for snowballing games, scum will be powerful for longer if town can't kill them and scum will get nerfed if town manages to kill them, and that's not too cool | ||
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On May 25 2013 08:54 kushm4sta wrote: yes I stopped trying because I thought the game was solved. I thought the game was solved because I thought the scumteam was balanced. There should be some transparency in how the teams are created. like host should say in the OP if teams are going to be completely random or fucked with. @VE ok enjoy your next scumgame that I'm in. because I now have a tell on your scumplay that has remained consistent and exclusive to your past 5 scumgames (the only ones I've looked at). It is simple and it is distinctive and I will catch you within your first 20 posts. future gg you can just PM the host and ask, i'm pretty sure most hosts don't balance their teams unless they're very imbalanced (Ace+Sandroba+EchelonTee v first gamers). | ||
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On May 25 2013 12:49 VayneAuthority wrote: also looking through my filter.. 2. what the hell is that? out of nowhere and then sloosh starts talking a little later...are they in communication or what? so confused by this post. so since sloosh and prp were both scum together, was this in fact a scumslip like I thought? or unrelated ? we weren't in communication about this in any way | ||
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