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On May 14 2013 06:03 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BH let me get this straight;
You want to lynch WoS for him straight up agreeing with you that scum killed DP, but not Vayne even when he did take a full 180 on flip analysis when you told him scum might have more than 1 KP? Almost! I want to lynch WoS for HOW he agreed with me that scum killed DP, and I want to not lynch vayne because HOW he did his 180 on flip analysis. Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough in my case: Whether someone buddies me, or whether someone disagrees with me, or whether someone derps or is wrong or is right, these are not how you catch scum. Scum can fake agreeing or disagreeing or being good or being bad as much as they want. A scum player could just bus all his buddies and pretend to be a master scumhunter, if all you look at is who he pushes and who he defends. I'm not saying this isn't useful information (since scum obviously don't want to bus) but this is only part of the picture. When you hunt scum, you need to pay attention to HOW people do things, and what they are thinking (or not thinking) when they do. WoS's post, imo, could not have come from a town mindset. I don't think he'd have written what he did the way he did if he really was town and was wondering why we were in agreement. Vayne, on the other hand, really just seems to be that wrongheaded, and although I don't think of him as captain mctown, i can see how from a town PoV Vayne has written what he has. This is how you hunt scum.
Ugh I just fucking deleted my post. Something along the lines of this being why I can't see you as town. You sit back and you ignore my reasoning completely as to what I wrote what I did and refuse to even consider it. Town wouldn't do this and just force the issue no matter the cost.
Recognize this post, by the way, scumBH?
On March 17 2013 15:51 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 15:50 ThePeashooter wrote:
Wadefall, consolidate your shit. I played one game of dota and somehow 80 fucking posts popped up and you are nearly a quarter of them. Nothing demotivates me more than a game that gets spammed to shit. I was really happy we weren't heading for a 100 page Day 1. please stop you're so helpful stop being so helpful
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I'm really having trouble right now deciding who I would rather lynch today. My issue stems from the fact that I find it really doubtful that both Oats AND BH as scum would be the first two to jump on a mislynch. Based on my thoughts from earlier that scum perceive me to be an easy mislynch to push (they always fail) I would be inclined to believe the scum is BH, but Oats flip-flop is SO scummy I don't know what to believe.
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Blazinghand
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WoS if you want to bring a meta case against me at least do the research and show it's something I do only as scum, rather than just something I always do
On February 13 2013 09:16 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 09:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Secret Ballot obviously best idea. I'm secretly scum and secretly don't want people to know who my secret buddies and I are secretly voting for. please stop, omg please stop you're being so helpful i'm being crushed by your helpfulness
etc etc
Clearly your goal is to paint me as scum rather than figure out if I am scum, because I literally make posts like this in every game. It's just what I do. I'm not saying the fact that I posted it makes me town, but it sure as hell don't make me scum.
If you were really trying to get a meta read on me you'd know this. But that's not what you're doing. You're just trying to fling shit before you die.
scum.
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Vivax:
On May 14 2013 06:11 Vivax wrote:
Now I don't understand where you are going with your questions, actually. You say it's fine if I want to lynch a lurker, when I wrote a case against prplhz, and in the next sentence you say it's not ok if it's a policy lynch where I could be wrong.
Rayn rayn
To me it seems like you are saying; "I have my reasons to lynch prpl, they are flimsy, but when he flips town i can tell people i policy lynched him for lurking".
WoS: What do you think of OO? What makes Oats or BH a better lynch than him?
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Telling your scumread to shut up and die isn't exactly the most productive way to head for a lynch BH.
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dont worry blazinghand.
you are always town in my eyes<3
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Blazinghand
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On May 14 2013 06:24 Vivax wrote:
Telling your scumread to shut up and die isn't exactly the most productive way to head for a lynch BH.
okay reasonable but look at what he posted! He's like "look at this, this is meta for BH being scum" and quoted a post I LITERALLY MAKE IN EVERY GAME.
I do see how a town player could make a mistake like this, maybe he's just cornered and defensive. But really, what this says to me is that he's scum, and he's more interested in painting me as scum and defending himself than he is in hunting scum. If he was really town and thought he was getting mislynched, he wouldn't auto-think I was scum , he would evaluate evidence and a quote like that, which I make both as scum and as town, is not evidence I am scum.
It's literally OMGUS. It's not an attempt to hunt scum, it's not an attempt to discern my alignment, it's an attempt to fling shit and try to cause collateral damage without giving up associative tells before he flips. I get that I'm a bit abrasive, but I'll tell you something else: I'm also right.
and I calls em like I sees em
/dunked
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shirokami who is your top scumread and why?
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BH, from 1 to 10, how sure are you WoS is scum
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On May 14 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 06:24 Vivax wrote:
Telling your scumread to shut up and die isn't exactly the most productive way to head for a lynch BH. okay reasonable but look at what he posted! He's like "look at this, this is meta for BH being scum" and quoted a post I LITERALLY MAKE IN EVERY GAME. I do see how a town player could make a mistake like this, maybe he's just cornered and defensive. But really, what this says to me is that he's scum, and he's more interested in painting me as scum and defending himself than he is in hunting scum. If he was really town and thought he was getting mislynched, he wouldn't auto-think I was scum , he would evaluate evidence and a quote like that, which I make both as scum and as town, is not evidence I am scum. It's literally OMGUS. It's not an attempt to hunt scum, it's not an attempt to discern my alignment, it's an attempt to fling shit and try to cause collateral damage without giving up associative tells before he flips. I get that I'm a bit abrasive, but I'll tell you something else: I'm also right. and I calls em like I sees em /dunked
I am neither cornered nor defensive. You will not be lynching me today. 
You're STILL ignoring what I've asked you to look at you; you only pick out the part of my post that is easy for you to dump on. How is this town behvaiour? If you expect me not to try and turn it around on you, STOP ACTING LIKE SCUM.
Rayn I think it's too early to lynch OO, he has decent potential and despite his trolly nature, he gets MUCH more useful later on in the game, much more so than prplhz. I'm a little surprised he hasn't done more yet but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
I'm not sure BH IS a better lynch; I'm trying to understand why he's acting this way but he refuses to acknowledge my questions of him and the fact that he is basing his entire read of me on one post---that is what makes him look scummy to me. I am certainly most comfortable with my vote on Oats right now due to his blatant flip on me without explanation.
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Blazinghand
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On May 14 2013 06:30 Vivax wrote:
BH, from 1 to 10, how sure are you WoS is scum
10
it's basically impossible he's town
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And BH you don't literally make it in every game. I wasn't going to go back into every single game of yours to look for that post; I looked into the games we have played in together and the only one you posted that in was The Game in which you were scum. You did not post it in LX, where you were DT. Lazy, fine. Grasping, maybe and I will admit it was a weak point. But you sure do seem to be the one getting all riled up about this, not me.
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Blazinghand
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On May 14 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:On May 14 2013 06:24 Vivax wrote:
Telling your scumread to shut up and die isn't exactly the most productive way to head for a lynch BH. okay reasonable but look at what he posted! He's like "look at this, this is meta for BH being scum" and quoted a post I LITERALLY MAKE IN EVERY GAME. I do see how a town player could make a mistake like this, maybe he's just cornered and defensive. But really, what this says to me is that he's scum, and he's more interested in painting me as scum and defending himself than he is in hunting scum. If he was really town and thought he was getting mislynched, he wouldn't auto-think I was scum , he would evaluate evidence and a quote like that, which I make both as scum and as town, is not evidence I am scum. It's literally OMGUS. It's not an attempt to hunt scum, it's not an attempt to discern my alignment, it's an attempt to fling shit and try to cause collateral damage without giving up associative tells before he flips. I get that I'm a bit abrasive, but I'll tell you something else: I'm also right. and I calls em like I sees em /dunked I am neither cornered nor defensive. You will not be lynching me today. You're STILL ignoring what I've asked you to look at you; you only pick out the part of my post that is easy for you to dump on. How is this town behvaiour? If you expect me not to try and turn it around on you, STOP ACTING LIKE SCUM. Rayn I think it's too early to lynch OO, he has decent potential and despite his trolly nature, he gets MUCH more useful later on in the game, much more so than prplhz. I'm a little surprised he hasn't done more yet but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm not sure BH IS a better lynch; I'm trying to understand why he's acting this way but he refuses to acknowledge my questions of him and the fact that he is basing his entire read of me on one post---that is what makes him look scummy to me. I am certainly most comfortable with my vote on Oats right now due to his blatant flip on me without explanation.
if you're not cornered or defensive how do you explain your lies about my meta?
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I'll sheep you, but I'll stalk you if it turns out wrong. 10 is serious business.
##Vote WoS
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On May 14 2013 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes and after that you seemed to be sure it was mafia hit. Why did you change your point of view suddenly when BH brought up mafia KP?
Probability. Much more likely it was just 2 mafia kills instead of vig/3rd party/etc being the killer.
On May 14 2013 06:03 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BH let me get this straight;
You want to lynch WoS for him straight up agreeing with you that scum killed DP, but not Vayne even when he did take a full 180 on flip analysis when you told him scum might have more than 1 KP? Almost! I want to lynch WoS for HOW he agreed with me that scum killed DP, and I want to not lynch vayne because HOW he did his 180 on flip analysis. Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough in my case: Whether someone buddies me, or whether someone disagrees with me, or whether someone derps or is wrong or is right, these are not how you catch scum. Scum can fake agreeing or disagreeing or being good or being bad as much as they want. A scum player could just bus all his buddies and pretend to be a master scumhunter, if all you look at is who he pushes and who he defends. I'm not saying this isn't useful information (since scum obviously don't want to bus) but this is only part of the picture. When you hunt scum, you need to pay attention to HOW people do things, and what they are thinking (or not thinking) when they do. WoS's post, imo, could not have come from a town mindset. I don't think he'd have written what he did the way he did if he really was town and was wondering why we were in agreement. Vayne, on the other hand, really just seems to be that wrongheaded, and although I don't think of him as captain mctown, i can see how from a town PoV Vayne has written what he has. This is how you hunt scum.
very true, im a shitty town player. Never had the game as town where I dont get accused of being scum at least 20 times, just check out the latest newbie mafia game I just played in LOL.
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On May 14 2013 06:34 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 06:30 Vivax wrote:
BH, from 1 to 10, how sure are you WoS is scum 10 it's basically impossible he's town
Look at this posturing. People talking about how good BH is at the game: he is saying it is impossible I am town; what does it mean for the godly BH if he is wrong?
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Blazinghand
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On May 14 2013 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And BH you don't literally make it in every game. I wasn't going to go back into every single game of yours to look for that post; I looked into the games we have played in together and the only one you posted that in was The Game in which you were scum. You did not post it in LX, where you were DT. Lazy, fine. Grasping, maybe and I will admit it was a weak point. But you sure do seem to be the one getting all riled up about this, not me.
Ah, the scumsplanation emerges
I don't even need to point out how scummy WoS is at this point, just read this paragraph and the previous posts he's made attacking my sterling credibility for no reason and tell me he's town, I dare you
in fact, I might even say WoS has /dunked himself
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Day 1 wagons
With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
ObviousOne[L-8]: Promethelax, HiroPro
WaveofShadow[L-8]: Blazinghand, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes,Vivax
raynpelikoneet[L-8]: chaoser, slOosh
Oatsmaster[L-9]: WaveofShadow
prplhz[L-8]: VayneAuthority, VisceraEyes
Day 1 ends Wednesday, May 15 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached
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On May 14 2013 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 14 2013 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:On May 14 2013 06:24 Vivax wrote:
Telling your scumread to shut up and die isn't exactly the most productive way to head for a lynch BH. okay reasonable but look at what he posted! He's like "look at this, this is meta for BH being scum" and quoted a post I LITERALLY MAKE IN EVERY GAME. I do see how a town player could make a mistake like this, maybe he's just cornered and defensive. But really, what this says to me is that he's scum, and he's more interested in painting me as scum and defending himself than he is in hunting scum. If he was really town and thought he was getting mislynched, he wouldn't auto-think I was scum , he would evaluate evidence and a quote like that, which I make both as scum and as town, is not evidence I am scum. It's literally OMGUS. It's not an attempt to hunt scum, it's not an attempt to discern my alignment, it's an attempt to fling shit and try to cause collateral damage without giving up associative tells before he flips. I get that I'm a bit abrasive, but I'll tell you something else: I'm also right. and I calls em like I sees em /dunked I am neither cornered nor defensive. You will not be lynching me today. You're STILL ignoring what I've asked you to look at you; you only pick out the part of my post that is easy for you to dump on. How is this town behvaiour? If you expect me not to try and turn it around on you, STOP ACTING LIKE SCUM. Rayn I think it's too early to lynch OO, he has decent potential and despite his trolly nature, he gets MUCH more useful later on in the game, much more so than prplhz. I'm a little surprised he hasn't done more yet but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm not sure BH IS a better lynch; I'm trying to understand why he's acting this way but he refuses to acknowledge my questions of him and the fact that he is basing his entire read of me on one post---that is what makes him look scummy to me. I am certainly most comfortable with my vote on Oats right now due to his blatant flip on me without explanation. if you're not cornered or defensive how do you explain your lies about my meta?
Already did, bro. And I NEVER LIE. All I did was post something and ask if you recognized it.
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On May 14 2013 06:36 Vivax wrote:
I'll sheep you, but I'll stalk you if it turns out wrong. 10 is serious business.
##Vote WoS
Remember this.
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