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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 06:23 GMT
#1664
Yeah that's FUCKING RIGHT.
All 'dem hataz. Nice shot whoever that was.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 07:51 GMT
#1667
LOL AND I JUST REALIZED MY FUCKING SCUM TUNNEL ME EARLY HEURISTIC IS RIGHT
/fucking flex
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 09:38 GMT
#1678
VE as far as Oats is concerned now that BH has flipped scum I find it very difficult to believe he would be scum simply based on the fact that they both jumped on my wagon super quick. Two scum being first to jump on a wagon that looked as though it might be ridden all the way to my death (and subsequent townflip) would look mighty bad imo.

Not to discount Oats' seemingly scummy play for part of the game, but yeah it just doesn't seem altogether likely to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 09:45 GMT
#1681
lol looking back and BH calling me out for attempting to 'buddy' him I knew that was horseshit. People buddy each other all the time in this damn game yet I get called out every time I feel like trying it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 17:10 GMT
#1723
On May 19 2013 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 19:23 ObviousOne wrote:
On May 14 2013 05:52 Vivax wrote:
Prplhz isn't just of a policy lynch from my perspective, but it adds up to the decision.

I hydrad with kush in Hydra II and I don't recall him playing that badly there, if he doesn't stay regularly active and eager to share who his reads are, then he's up for lynch. That should be more or less the situation atm, so yeah, add kush unless he brings some more to the table.

I prefer to lynch prplhz before Rayn, I appreciated his latest contributions, although I'll need more time to get to a conclusive read.

My recap about prplhz is that he tried too hard to play the "good & helpful townie" role at the beginning, while his inconsistency and lack of contribution tells otherwise. He had a bunch of unanswered questions and completely stopped pursuing them, and he spoke about some general advice/moderation stuff before that.
After that, he disappeared to come back to say something about sloosh.


Prplhz is who I wanna lynch.

QUOTED FOR JUSTICE

Vivax would hate it if I didn't post this, I'm pretty sure. I just remembered that I have a boner for his town play and this sprung to mind.


Vivax' deathwish was for WaveofShadow's head on a pole. Just sayin. If we're respecting the dead, we gotta RESPECT the dead. For whatever reason he felt more strongly about Wave before he died than he did about prplhz...and I was townie on prplhz when Vivax was calling for his lynch sooo...I don't know about invoking Vivax in that way.

Just catching up but Vivax ALWAYS wants my head on a pole. He thought I was scum right up till the end in LXI.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 17:14 GMT
#1724
OO I'm not sure where I refused to give reads, but I promise (read that, Oats?) you will get them; probably not before 9-10 EST tonight. Expect me then and you can hold me to this. Let me know who and in what capacity you would like them and I will give you all.
ALL.

/buddy
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 01:11 GMT
#1735
lol what is with the fucking martyring on TL lately?
Also hai guise I back and will be for the next little while.
OO you never answered me as to on whom you would like a read.

Oats you still think I'm scum huh? Why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 01:19 GMT
#1737
On May 20 2013 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol what is with the fucking martyring on TL lately?
Also hai guise I back and will be for the next little while.
OO you never answered me as to on whom you would like a read.

Oats you still think I'm scum huh? Why?

I dont know why you are town!!!!!!!
Is it cause BH pushed you?
Cause you didnt actually get lynched, and OO almost got lynched.
And the night after, BH was pushing the OO lynch not you.

Clearly our entire exchange was an elaborate double-bus attempt. What have I done that is anti-town?
Should I just ignore you for the rest of the game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 02:07 GMT
#1739
On May 20 2013 10:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol what is with the fucking martyring on TL lately?
Also hai guise I back and will be for the next little while.
OO you never answered me as to on whom you would like a read.

Oats you still think I'm scum huh? Why?

I dont know why you are town!!!!!!!
Is it cause BH pushed you?
Cause you didnt actually get lynched, and OO almost got lynched.
And the night after, BH was pushing the OO lynch not you.

Clearly our entire exchange was an elaborate double-bus attempt. What have I done that is anti-town?
Should I just ignore you for the rest of the game?

What the fuck are you talking about?
Confirmed town due to interactions with flipped player and town due to 'townplay' is different.
What I dont see the the 'confirmed' town part, considering the fact that BH didnt even wanna lynch you after day 1.


So ignore the BH interaction then and read my filter and show me how my play isn't 'townplay.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 15:13 GMT
#1772
So here's a question. how is what is effectively a 19-5-1 setup balanced exactly? Like I know we've sucked thus far but that seems entirely too town-unfavoured to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 18:02 GMT
#1783
Prom your list seems off to me. First of all, you're sure of Oats despite what I said about the voting patterns? It may be one of the only things he has going for him but it's pretty strong imo. I also don't see how you can call his interest minimal.
Second, you're sure about Kush? Simply the fact that I want to lynch him less this game now that he's doing shit makes me almost want to lynch him MORE, in that it's not very kush-like.



twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 18:03 GMT
#1785
On May 21 2013 02:50 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
prome what do you mean they shot you and you were protected?
any indication of that happening via pm? you think you were jked or what?


I wasn't informed of anything so I was not JK'd. But the bum rush at me as SK from scum today suggests to me that scum shot me last night and seeing me not die went all out today. I have no proof of this but basic analysis suggest that this was the case.

And also how the fuck is this possible? Why make this kind of an assumption with absolutely nothing to back it up?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 19:03 GMT
#1793
I can't post in great detail right now I'm on my phone, but I"ll getb to it. Prom can you answer mw questions regarding Oats and kush in your reads list? You say you want to talk about your reads but when I bring stuff up you ignore it.

As far as SK and whatnot is it not possible for it to have been a vig? Just curious.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 19:41 GMT
#1796
Prom I mean specifically that BH and oats were the first two to vote me. Do you think it likely that scum jump on a town wago like that?

Again I will discuss your big posts when I get a chace but I can't type paragraphs atm
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 20 2013 23:33 GMT
#1808
Fuck can you guys not hammer him please? I want to read into him and re read the last 5 pages or so but I won't get a chance for another little bit.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2013 00:45 GMT
#1820
Wow I wanted to fucking yell at you guys but he got hammered so I couldn't post...after LXI when Palmar threatened to get me modkilled I scurred of posting after hammer now.

So...lol gj. And extra lol that the fucking SK starts up suspicion on me early and then fucking scum picks up what he believes to be an easy wagon and rolls with it. 'Scum suspect/push Wave early' #1 fucking heuristic NA.

Question is can we look at anything Prom said in the last little while and use it? It's pretty clear he needed mafia lynched too...
Also it's going to take me a while but I plan on re-reading the last bunch of pages really carefully because I wasn't following too closely.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2013 00:58 GMT
#1821
Kush...are you town?
[image loading]
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2013 01:59 GMT
#1826
On May 21 2013 10:55 ObviousOne wrote:
Only read I have any real doubt on right now is VE and it's activity based only. HIs early D2 felt like town VE and he just hasn't been around since. So yeah, I think Kush's list pretty much solves the game.
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 15:47 kushm4sta wrote:
grush57
slOosh
kushm4sta
strongandbig
shirokami

VisceraEyes
prplhz
ObviousOne
WaveofShadow
Oatsmaster
Promethelax

sloosh - huge mega case on 3p, very little effort in finding mafia. the post about 3p comes right after a night with no town deaths so i'm led to believe it was constructed with the idea that he 1) as mafia knows the mafia kp 2) saw that the actual kp was higher and 3) bullet did not go thru ergo case on 3p to get rid of threat to his side.
snb - heavily interested in lynching prome as soon as it was topical. thinks oats is scum (this is really lol). letting Siri write his posts (LOL AGAIN!) contrast it to how hard he pushed for lynches on known townies / your town reads.
shiro - refuses to participate in the scum hunting, defensive about his posting but not proactive about anything at all. hiding.
prplhz - "AMA" is not proactive, playing reactive / "by-ear" is scummy IMO. most recently his wagon went nowhere after his martyring, nobody called him scummy for it (i didn't, handily enough i was the litmus test for whether or not people would jump on scum for it and you saw how differently people reacted when I did it versus when prp did it)

it's a fucking slam dunk


I'm still in the midst of re-reading but I feel like I could sheep this. This game is exhausting me.
No fuck this I don't sheep.
BACK TO READING
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2013 02:20 GMT
#1827
On May 21 2013 02:31 Promethelax wrote:
hi guys, I'm back.

This is how today goes: we lynch either Oats or Sloosh. Both of whom are scum. My only point on a town Oats was my early belief that scum had two night hits and his suggestion of a vig for the second hit. Since based on how the NKs worked out (as Sloosh correctly pointed out) there is probably a serial killer and scum only have one NK which means that Oats' townslip was actually a scumslip.
Why is sloosh scum? Well its because he is really easy to read as scum. If you need help because you are bad though look at his play this day: he is SK hunting not scum hunting. An sk lynch is the same as a town lynch for scum, probably even better since the SK needs to be shooting Scum right now as evidenced by the BH shot last night. Having the SK alive assuming that it is indeed an SK (KISS suggests it is) is way more beneficial to town than it is to scum. We get to lynch and Scum need to nk the SK since he is the only non-scum kp in the game (besides the flipped vivax).

SnB: no, there is no reason for me to think you are scum, but I need to call Kush scum to be able to read him and that was my chance to do so.

I said I liked the prp/kush lynch dichotomy earlier but I like it a lot less now. Kush seems really townie in these last few pages his appeals to me to claim serial killer and ally myself with town are a thing he would not suggest as scum.

In case you guys decide to lynch me I'm posting a full reads list with reasons so that you can maaaaybe make this a win for us.

Oatsmaster has played anti-twon the whole game, his activity is pathetic and his interest is minimal. Plus scumslip about n0 nk
SloOsh lurky scum play, focused attack on me trying to pass off sk-hunting as pro town while avoiding scum hunting. Chainsaw defense of bh.

VE less sure than I am on the above but his OO stuff early wasn't right and my meta case from Chrono still holds. VE hasn't added anything to the game that he should as a townie. This is either VE's scumgame or the single worst town game I have ever seen from him.

Shiro he was such an idiot early on that I had him as town, Rayn had a similar read. If we assume Rayn was the scum shot though that might have been to cover Shiro from someone who knew him. I wouldn't lynch him yet but I'm damn sure that I don't want him in lylo if it is at all avoidable.
OO I do like his d2 play. BH's retard push on him for martyring also suggests that he is town. Of the three guys in this null column he is the one I think would have the skill to fool me as scum though. For the moment not really worth calling scum but he'll need to be looked at again as the game goes on.
prp My heuristic with prp early game tells me he is town, his play hasn't done anything for me since that and he certainly could be scum. I find it somewhat unlikely though.


Me[/me]
WoS seriously the towniest mother fucker in the world.
Kush his play today, he is actually interested in killing scum and winning game for town. Asking sk to claim is a very townie thing for kush to do.
[b]Grush I believe in STARSENSES

For the purposes of the above list I treated this game as anti-scum/scum since the SK is on our side for now. I'm not to worried about him as town is so far behind right now (5-4-1) that he is shooting scum for a while and because of that scum HAVE to shoot him or push through a lynch on him. I say we lynch scum today and make scum waste their kp on sk so we can win this game.

##Vote: Oatsmaster you are all welcome to sheep me now.

If scum seriously think I am the sk it probably means they shot me last night and I was protected from their nk, that would explain the retard push on me today. I'll probably get hit next night since they are so sure I'm sk so after I flip remember this post and come back and read it. I'd like you all to pull out the win for us kthx.

Still in the middle of my read but this post interests me.
If Prom successfully got Oats lynched here, and Oats was town, wouldn't he have lost the game?
CONTINUING READ
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 21 2013 02:31 GMT
#1829
Prome's activity regareding Oats as well as Oats' activity himself makes me really think he is scum. Read Prom's obviously desperate case on Oats and some of the stuff I've said about him in the past.
Then there's this recent gem.
On May 21 2013 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ezezezezezez
Get a coach Prome.


Well WoS, you have to think about the fact that Prome's win con is to kill everyone, which means he has to get the game to a 1-1-1 preferably.
So I assume some of his townreads are scum, some of his null reads are town, some of them are scum or whatever.
Which means its not all that useful for picking out stuff that helps us.

Ok so for sloosh, nobody thought of the 3P explanation before, and I feel that his post was too clean to be townie. He knew that his shot didnt kill anyone, and if prome was 3P or not, it doesnt matter, just that 3P would get lynched if he called it out. So sloosh is scum.


If he knows Prom is right about him, this post makes a hell of a lot of sense. What say you gentlemen? I also think SnB could be town. Anyway we have a fair amount of time to discuss this; Kush god help me but I'm going to assume you're town right now. VE where are you?
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