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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 16 2013 06:49 GMT
#1641
GG guys. Not much to say honestly, the game pretty much solved itself due to lack of activity from half the scummers.
I'm gonna have to make a themed game with more nukes though. Can't have enough nukes.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2013 06:51 GMT
#1642
Yay, we won! That went fast.

Thanks for hosting!

Sorry for the lackluster start of our hydra. Weekend is family time for me, and prom was at work. When he wrote me he'd replace out I did not see it for almost 12 hours because I was offline the whole day.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2013 06:52 GMT
#1643
Yeah I guess "repeated" is wrong, I guess the time you did it I was hyper aware of it or something, because that stuck out to me. Like, I was expecting more from you and was presented with "Well sandro hasn't been here so you know..." and then when you came back you were already being nuked or something.

Anyway like I said I think you played fairly well anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2013 06:54 GMT
#1644
On April 16 2013 15:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
GG guys. Not much to say honestly, the game pretty much solved itself due to lack of activity from half the scummers.
I'm gonna have to make a themed game with more nukes though. Can't have enough nukes.

Nah man I think this game had "enough" nukes.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2013 06:55 GMT
#1645
oh yeah, and since some people seem to have no clue of our name, this was the inspiration:

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2013 06:58 GMT
#1646
Also syllo why didn't you say anything about the Vivax masonQT thing? You had to know Palmar was expecting you to say Vivax was town because of it...had you just not carefully read the thread or something?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 16 2013 07:02 GMT
#1647
Or was that the weird period between when you last posted and being hellfired to death?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 16 2013 07:05 GMT
#1648
On April 16 2013 15:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 15:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
GG guys. Not much to say honestly, the game pretty much solved itself due to lack of activity from half the scummers.
I'm gonna have to make a themed game with more nukes though. Can't have enough nukes.

Nah man I think this game had "enough" nukes.

If you think this game had enough nukes you've seen nothing yet!
[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia is coming up as soon as there's room.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 07:38:51
April 16 2013 07:36 GMT
#1649
On April 16 2013 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also syllo why didn't you say anything about the Vivax masonQT thing? You had to know Palmar was expecting you to say Vivax was town because of it...had you just not carefully read the thread or something?

I saw them talk about hydra QTs quite a bit, did he specifically refer to the "don't worry i'm taking care of that in the hydra qt"? I thought that response was really towny, but I forgot about that and I couldn't just keep strongly pushing the idea that all the active people are town. If it was something they said near the lynch, I was asleep.

No palmar I can't quite pick up on town tells asleep. Yet.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 07:38:50
April 16 2013 07:38 GMT
#1650
On April 16 2013 16:36 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also syllo why didn't you say anything about the Vivax masonQT thing? You had to know Palmar was expecting you to say Vivax was town because of it...had you just not carefully read the thread or something?

I saw them talk about hydra QTs quite a bit, did he specifically refer to the "don't worry i'm taking care of that in the hydra qt"? I thought that response was really towny, but I forgot about that and I couldn't just keep strongly pushing the idea that all the active people are town.

This was the post that made people think Vivax/Kush were town.
On April 15 2013 05:30 VIVAX420 wrote:
FMB post QT right now please
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 16 2013 07:39 GMT
#1651
Posting them isn't allowed though and they could easily have known that as mafia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 16 2013 07:55 GMT
#1652
I'm pretty sure I have seen that argument used before in I think a newbie.

Yes, it was actually.

I mislynched him for it was thinking it was a try hard soft town claim.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 16 2013 08:02 GMT
#1653
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.

As for Syllo, I thought he played a really good Day 1. He was not a realistic Day 1 lynch, and he almost singlehandedly pushed a mislynch through, but was in the unenviable position of having to deal with the wave of activity at the end of the day without help from his scum-buddies.

On April 16 2013 11:53 geript wrote:
Hapa how do you manage to de-tunnel so easily?


I always saw myself as a fairly tunnel-y player o.O

Well I've been a pretty aggressive player throughout my TL Mafia career, and I've fucked up enough tunnels over the past year to know when I've gotten something wrong. VE said it pretty well - it's all about being able to check yourself for confirmation bias, and I have a lot of "checks" that I've picked up from past experiences.

Also, I think I've changed my mindset towards "tunneling" over time. I view it more nowadays as an information-gathering session rather than an argument/confrontation. I'm not only looking for reasons that someone could be scum - I'm also looking for reasons that someone could be town. Mafia is rarely about identifying that one scummy thing in someone's filter. It's often about weighing the reasons to think that someone is town vs. the reasons to think that someone is scum, and putting them together to reach an objective conclusion.

And as a fun-fact, sometimes I go into tunnels to find excuses to call someone townie. My entire dialogue with Kush/Vivax at the end of N1 was to this end - I had a gut-town read on Kush, but I needed to test his responses more to be sure of his alignment. As scum, he whines incessantly when under pressure, so you have to turn the screws and see the results.

On April 16 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
Also why did you have me pegged as town so early and easily?


When I make early reads like that, it's not really my objective to 100% nail someone as town. It's mainly just to take a stance and begin discussion. I'm a player that really needs to be in the center of attention/discussion to have accurate reads, so I've adapted my playstyle to that over time.

As it turns out I'm right more often than not with my early-game reads, but the point isn't to be correct - it's just to put something out in the thread. I may as well throw them out there because it lets people start thinking about reads as opposed to mindless-spam, and I can always just change my mind if I'm wrong.

As for the specifics of my read on you this game, I think I explained it in-thread. You took a post seriously that was not meant to be taken seriously, and it looked like you were eager to scum-hunt. It's hard to explain it very clearly, but as you play and pick up experience, you start to pick-up on townie idiosyncrasies like that. You begin to see certain posts that are incredibly "genuine" and townie.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2013 09:48 GMT
#1654
On April 16 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.


I don't know if it was Palmar or DP that told me to get modkilled (shortly before the D1 deadline), but that line really just killed my motivation for the rest of the night. I normally don't mind some abrasiveness, but the implication that they just wanted to have me out of the game completely really pissed me off.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 16 2013 09:49 GMT
#1655
Anyway, thanks for hosting the game. You took a few concerns of mine into account and there were no issues with the hosting
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 16 2013 09:51 GMT
#1656
On April 16 2013 18:48 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.


I don't know if it was Palmar or DP that told me to get modkilled (shortly before the D1 deadline), but that line really just killed my motivation for the rest of the night. I normally don't mind some abrasiveness, but the implication that they just wanted to have me out of the game completely really pissed me off.

At least you could have been consistent and made a big deal out it like in Nomination ;0
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2013 10:09 GMT
#1657
On April 16 2013 18:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 18:48 phagga wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.


I don't know if it was Palmar or DP that told me to get modkilled (shortly before the D1 deadline), but that line really just killed my motivation for the rest of the night. I normally don't mind some abrasiveness, but the implication that they just wanted to have me out of the game completely really pissed me off.

At least you could have been consistent and made a big deal out it like in Nomination ;0


Huh? Did someone in Nomination say I should get modkilled? Or what do you refer to?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 16 2013 10:28 GMT
#1658
On April 16 2013 19:09 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 18:51 Mocsta wrote:
On April 16 2013 18:48 phagga wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.


I don't know if it was Palmar or DP that told me to get modkilled (shortly before the D1 deadline), but that line really just killed my motivation for the rest of the night. I normally don't mind some abrasiveness, but the implication that they just wanted to have me out of the game completely really pissed me off.

At least you could have been consistent and made a big deal out it like in Nomination ;0


Huh? Did someone in Nomination say I should get modkilled? Or what do you refer to?

I asked Oats to quit, and you called me scum because of it.

And took a great deal of offense.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#1659
On April 16 2013 19:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 19:09 phagga wrote:
On April 16 2013 18:51 Mocsta wrote:
On April 16 2013 18:48 phagga wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm surprised some folks had problems with DP's attitude this game. I think he was fine, and pretty tame considering some of the other aggressive antics we see in other games. Also let the guy have his glory - he's had a break-out in his town game of late, and it's nice to see someone riding high like that.


I don't know if it was Palmar or DP that told me to get modkilled (shortly before the D1 deadline), but that line really just killed my motivation for the rest of the night. I normally don't mind some abrasiveness, but the implication that they just wanted to have me out of the game completely really pissed me off.

At least you could have been consistent and made a big deal out it like in Nomination ;0


Huh? Did someone in Nomination say I should get modkilled? Or what do you refer to?

I asked Oats to quit, and you called me scum because of it.

And took a great deal of offense.

Ha, right, I forgot about it. Yeah, it already bothered me there. I personally feel that saying something like this is much more offensive then calling someone an idiot ingame.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
April 16 2013 12:23 GMT
#1660
GG.
Thanks for hosting.
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