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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 23 2013 03:05 GMT
#1041
I know I just felt left out as the sole remaining player to not use the word "heuristics".
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 23 2013 03:05 GMT
#1042
This honestly feels like a bunch of shouting back and forth between the townies that don't care and are being stupid, and the mixture of townies / scum who want to lynch them. I take full responsibility if either flips town, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that happened here.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 23 2013 03:06 GMT
#1043
Why is there a case on Sharrant by some guy that randomly got into the thread....
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 23 2013 03:07 GMT
#1044
On April 23 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:

Because I already said enough about it, and I wanted to get a bandwagon rolling on ace.



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Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 23 2013 03:12 GMT
#1045
On April 23 2013 10:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because fast lynching me, I flip town. So like Ego mafia where you dudes fast lynched Ace, no info no nothing bro.
##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato


On April 23 2013 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
19) Yamato77: Dont know, feels like scum yamato, case on VE says otherwise . Scum yamato doesnt post cases like that AFAIK

14 minutes in between these two posts. For being 'mad' you sure did clear your head really quickly enough to think that he's town but not enough to unvote for him. Many of your reads are mirrors of his (VE, BC, Ace) and you are agreeing that he's not scum but none of that warrants unvoting him?
On April 23 2013 11:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
VE, do you wanna lynch Yamato or me? Im confused.

You clearly don't seem to be not interested in a Yamato lynch here. In fact, you're more than happy to direct your scum read VE towards a Yamato vote. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?

On April 23 2013 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im town, yamato is town. Who is scum?

##Unvote

Oh wait, no you're not. Now he's firmly town. The excuse that we're supposed to believe is that you were mad and voted for a then scumread only to unvote when prompted?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 03:16 GMT
#1046
On April 23 2013 12:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why is there a case on Sharrant by some guy that randomly got into the thread....


Why not? Maybe instead of asking a question that has no answer you could comment on the case I made?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 23 2013 03:18 GMT
#1047
On April 23 2013 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 12:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why is there a case on Sharrant by some guy that randomly got into the thread....


Why not? Maybe instead of asking a question that has no answer you could comment on the case I made?


I think Sharrent is town, and the case seems to be really tunnely / nitpicky about someone with a lot of filter.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 23 2013 03:22 GMT
#1048
Either way, I'm tired. The amount of spam in the thread related to yamato / oats being dumb is astounding... just lynch one of them so I can have a little concrete information to work with going into tomorrow.

This is a totes scummy post. Maybe if I play a little more anti-town I'll be confirmed town :D
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 03:22 GMT
#1049
On April 23 2013 12:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Either way, I'm tired. The amount of spam in the thread related to yamato / oats being dumb is astounding... just lynch one of them so I can have a little concrete information to work with going into tomorrow.

This is a totes scummy post. Maybe if I play a little more anti-town I'll be confirmed town :D

This shit is ridiculously stupid.

I could lynch you just for this post.
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 23 2013 04:18 GMT
#1050
On April 23 2013 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 12:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why is there a case on Sharrant by some guy that randomly got into the thread....


Why not? Maybe instead of asking a question that has no answer you could comment on the case I made?

I'll comment on it. I already forget who said it but it screams to me of reaching. I have a very strong townread on Sharrant right now and nothing you bring up in your case on him strikes me as scummy at all---how is providing 'easy outs' as you call them an anti-town thing to do? What is inherently scummy about the way he has presented himself? I will agree that his methodology isn't necessarily great but it certainly doesn't look scummy. For example in the first example you gave he provides Rayn with an out because they had already been arguing for fucking ages and shitting up the thread; it's entirely possible that he wants the argument to end as well and just wants to get a clear read, which certainly seems likely as he encourages Rayn to continue the discussion on another subject.

I don't see anything wrong with his asking questions of others; everybody in here does that and you're really reaching with his talking about how he has to go eat makes him look insecure. You say that he just asks shallow questions to look involved? He's been plenty involved and has had plenty opportunity as scum to just blend it or let something go and make it seem as though he has contributed.

Your case is bad and I urge you to look over something else if YOU want to make it seem like you're contributing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
April 23 2013 04:26 GMT
#1051
~~~ Vote Count! ~~~

Oatsmaster:
Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Ace, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,Palmar,getmoript, Mr. CC (11)
Hopeless1der:
Vivax (0)
Bill Murray:
raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes (0)
Getmoript:
Mr. Cheesecake, kushm4sta,WaveofShadow (0)
TheRavensName:
Sharrant (0)
Raynpelikoneet:
Sharrant, Sylencia, Hopeless1der, ObviousOne(3)
Ace:
Yamato, Bill Murray (0)
Sharrant:
raynpelikoneetClarity_nl (1)
Yamato:
kushm4sta, BloodyCobbler, Ace, Grush57, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, ObviousOne, getmoript, Bill Murray, TheRavensName,Oatsmaster (4)
VisceraEyes:
Palmar, Yamato (0)
GiygaS:
Oatsmaster (0)
Drazek:
Bill Murray (1)


Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

With 25 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
April 23 2013 04:28 GMT
#1052
While not required and no real punishment could ever come from it if you could say who you were unvoting when you unvote it would be greatly appreciated. You get the greatest reward for doing so, pleasing me the perfect one.

Also please notify us if you see any mistakes in the vote count thanks

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 05:31 GMT
#1053
Geript.
Why do you think I 180ed then? Dont you think it wouldve been in my best interests as scum to try and get really spammy yamato lynched? What is the scum objective of me trying to get people to think of alternative targets rather than yamato?
Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?

Explain this? I bully scum, means Im not scum? Or what? Scumslip? Or what?


Ace, you wanna get lynched? Or you wanna play the fucking game?
No gg, No skill.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 06:50 GMT
#1054
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 06:51 GMT
#1055
I said it... and now I've had 2 people parrot me... If 3 people believe the same thing...

Clarity is reaching as scum
More logical of a vote than mine currently
##Vote Clarity_NL
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 06:53 GMT
#1056
Cheesecake and WavesofShadow (WoS) have both parroted me

Cheesecake called Clarity's case tunnely/nitpicky... I literally used the word tunnely

WoS comes in and uses the word reaching... and lo and behold... after I said tunnely... I said reaching

Scum are piggybacking my wording to get a lynch imo
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 06:53 GMT
#1057
so i'm actually not going to vote clarity... im going to vote sharrant
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 06:53 GMT
#1058
#flipflop 2013
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 07:01 GMT
#1059
On April 23 2013 15:53 Bill Murray wrote:
#flipflop 2013

#sickplays 2013
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 07:02 GMT
#1060
On April 23 2013 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 12:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 12:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why is there a case on Sharrant by some guy that randomly got into the thread....


Why not? Maybe instead of asking a question that has no answer you could comment on the case I made?

I'll comment on it. I already forget who said it but it screams to me of reaching. I have a very strong townread on Sharrant right now and nothing you bring up in your case on him strikes me as scummy at all---how is providing 'easy outs' as you call them an anti-town thing to do? What is inherently scummy about the way he has presented himself? I will agree that his methodology isn't necessarily great but it certainly doesn't look scummy. For example in the first example you gave he provides Rayn with an out because they had already been arguing for fucking ages and shitting up the thread; it's entirely possible that he wants the argument to end as well and just wants to get a clear read, which certainly seems likely as he encourages Rayn to continue the discussion on another subject.

I don't see anything wrong with his asking questions of others; everybody in here does that and you're really reaching with his talking about how he has to go eat makes him look insecure. You say that he just asks shallow questions to look involved? He's been plenty involved and has had plenty opportunity as scum to just blend it or let something go and make it seem as though he has contributed.

Your case is bad and I urge you to look over something else if YOU want to make it seem like you're contributing.


Providing easy outs isn't anti-town so much as it is pro-scum. It's very easy to say "do this or I'll lynch you!!!!" because your target will do what you ask. This is fine if you are asking for something that may result in anything but when you ask a question with only one possible answer regardless of your targets alignment then it is just a waste of space. If you are town and you are scumhunting you do NOT want to give whoever you're pressuring the "how-to-get-rid-of-me guide"

Asking questions is fine, it generates discussion even when you do it as scum, but when there is no clear motivation NOR follow-up behind the questions then I begin to wonder why the question was asked at all, and I can only see it as feigning to contribute which is obviously a scum trait.

Although I don't agree with defending a townread day 1 at all unless they are at risk of being lynched (which he is clearly not) you do make a valid point concerning the first post I addressed. I still believe I am on to something but I can see with the current thread sentiment and the fact that I am in no strong position (showing up way late >.<) that this lynch isn't happening. A weak case is still a case and it could have sparked some discussion that's not centered around oats and yamato which are as far as I'm concerned both policy lynches at best.


FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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