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On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible.
Is staying alive only the objective of mafia?
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On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible.
.....you're kidding me right?
I've been saying this shit for days.
DAYS.
We could have lynched him based on any of this yesterday, or even the day before.
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On May 09 2013 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 05:45 Palmar wrote:
in hindsight, assume I'm mafia, do you think it's likely I would immediately assume I got shot, knowing it to be false? There was an hour gap between claiming you got roleblocked and the first mention that you might've been shot. Plenty of time to think about it, and that you bring it up actually means yoou
I used this hour because I didn't get notified of a shot, but I strongly believed I might have been shot, so I asked the host to explain whether or not I would be notified if I was hit. That explains the hour wait.
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On May 09 2013 06:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. Is staying alive only the objective of mafia?
The main objective of town is to find scum, not to stay alive.
The main objective of scum is to stay alive.
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On May 09 2013 06:47 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. .....you're kidding me right? I've been saying this shit for days. DAYS. We could have lynched him based on any of this yesterday, or even the day before.
No, because IF he is town then the information from his check on you could prove invaluable. Or at least I thought so when I wasn't sure Sharrant was JK.
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I'm not defending Palmar here because it may very well be that I'd like to see him swing, but your reasoning as to why he's scummy NOW and not yesterday or the day before is terrible.
How is it he hasn't been scumhunting? Because he hasn't scumhunted over the first few hours of the day? What about his push of Yamato? Was that not scumhunting? I'm really curious as to your train of thought.
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On May 09 2013 06:04 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 05:45 Palmar wrote:
in hindsight, assume I'm mafia, do you think it's likely I would immediately assume I got shot, knowing it to be false? Yes. Your the only one who milkde the protection from gunshot. So either someone else was shot and didn't want to say anything, like ace, or bc was shot and you decided to milk it for the cred. Its not out of the realm of possibility.
Assume for a second, just to entertain the notion, that I'm town Palmar.
I can give you the insight that at the time I thought I was in pretty good standing with town, in no danger of being lynched.
Knowing that I got protected and a KP was missing, do you think town-Palmar (knowing my history of being shot n1) would not assume that I got shot during the night?
Sure, scum-Palmar could do what I did, but so could town-Palmar, and in fact it's more likely town Palmar did.
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On May 09 2013 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. .....you're kidding me right? I've been saying this shit for days. DAYS. We could have lynched him based on any of this yesterday, or even the day before. No, because IF he is town then the information from his check on you could prove invaluable. Or at least I thought so when I wasn't sure Sharrant was JK.
What? If he ACTUALLY is a town paranoid cop, what do we learn from the check?
....am I honestly a fucking moron or am I missing something here?
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On May 09 2013 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:47 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. Is staying alive only the objective of mafia? The main objective of town is to find scum, not to stay alive. The main objective of scum is to stay alive.
Part of lynching scum is to not get lynched as town right? That removes one potential candidate from the pool. Would you say I have not scumhunted this game? I consider both parts equal. If every town player makes sure he doesn't get lynched then the game is quite easy, right?
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On May 09 2013 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:44 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 06:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think it's time for the Wagon of Justice to be erected.
##Vote: Palmar I'm waiting on responses to my case first. I'm not sure why now of all times you're suddenly convinced, Artanis. Again, I believe you promised me something. Please point to me where I promised you anything. I'm convinced now because A) Sharrant's flip confirmed what we already suspected and B) Palmar conveniently got paranoid, thus any potential extra importance he could have if he were town is gone. That and Palmar's long post was actually awful. No scumhunting, lots of defending and tutoring. Rubbed me the wrong way entirely. Do you want to lynch me based on two factors that are completely out of my control? One, or all of these thought processes must be true, based on your post here: Sharrant jailed Palmar -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar rolled paranoid cop -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar wrote a post defending himself -> Therefore Palmar must be scum I don't know what in particular I need to say to you to explain why you're wrong, but you please provide something for me to respond to if you want to call me scum. You're scum because you're more interested in your own survival than in actually finding scum. The best way to get my vote off of you is to find a better target. You've spent enough time defending yourself, I'd rather you spent that time reading filters of people you find suspicious.
Here's one thing, I'm obsessed with reads I don't understand.
I can move on, and I was starting to do so, beginning with my list of 5 people I considered needed to be looked at. Then you come in and accuse me of being scum without providing anything to back it up other than my role. You literally want to lynch me based on my role.
I cannot defend that. But I want to make absolutely 100% certain that if I get lynched there will remain no legitimate reason for it, it will be simply be because people decided to do it and fuck logic.
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On May 09 2013 06:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:47 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. Is staying alive only the objective of mafia? The main objective of town is to find scum, not to stay alive. The main objective of scum is to stay alive. Part of lynching scum is to not get lynched as town right? That removes one potential candidate from the pool. Would you say I have not scumhunted this game? I consider both parts equal. If every town player makes sure he doesn't get lynched then the game is quite easy, right?
There's a difference between how you act when trying to survive and how I acted when I felt I was going down. There is a clear point here and Artanis is right, but I just don't like how he's going about it.
I (and others) have pointed out in the past how you have basically done anything and everything to assume your own survival from one day to the next and you've always managed to squeeze out of it. You could say the same thing might have been true for yamato at times but yamato buckled down and did his fucking damndest to give us his all. You have done no such thing aside from short bursts of activity here and there which have amounted to nothing since you have been a suspect.
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On May 09 2013 06:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 06:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think it's time for the Wagon of Justice to be erected.
##Vote: Palmar I'm waiting on responses to my case first. I'm not sure why now of all times you're suddenly convinced, Artanis. Again, I believe you promised me something. Please point to me where I promised you anything. I'm convinced now because A) Sharrant's flip confirmed what we already suspected and B) Palmar conveniently got paranoid, thus any potential extra importance he could have if he were town is gone. That and Palmar's long post was actually awful. No scumhunting, lots of defending and tutoring. Rubbed me the wrong way entirely. Do you want to lynch me based on two factors that are completely out of my control? One, or all of these thought processes must be true, based on your post here: Sharrant jailed Palmar -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar rolled paranoid cop -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar wrote a post defending himself -> Therefore Palmar must be scum I don't know what in particular I need to say to you to explain why you're wrong, but you please provide something for me to respond to if you want to call me scum. You're scum because you're more interested in your own survival than in actually finding scum. The best way to get my vote off of you is to find a better target. You've spent enough time defending yourself, I'd rather you spent that time reading filters of people you find suspicious. Here's one thing, I'm obsessed with reads I don't understand. I can move on, and I was starting to do so, beginning with my list of 5 people I considered needed to be looked at. Then you come in and accuse me of being scum without providing anything to back it up other than my role. You literally want to lynch me based on my role. I cannot defend that. But I want to make absolutely 100% certain that if I get lynched there will remain no legitimate reason for it, it will be simply be because people decided to do it and fuck logic.
This looks like a confession to me.
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On May 09 2013 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:56 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 06:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think it's time for the Wagon of Justice to be erected.
##Vote: Palmar I'm waiting on responses to my case first. I'm not sure why now of all times you're suddenly convinced, Artanis. Again, I believe you promised me something. Please point to me where I promised you anything. I'm convinced now because A) Sharrant's flip confirmed what we already suspected and B) Palmar conveniently got paranoid, thus any potential extra importance he could have if he were town is gone. That and Palmar's long post was actually awful. No scumhunting, lots of defending and tutoring. Rubbed me the wrong way entirely. Do you want to lynch me based on two factors that are completely out of my control? One, or all of these thought processes must be true, based on your post here: Sharrant jailed Palmar -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar rolled paranoid cop -> Therefore Palmar must be scum Palmar wrote a post defending himself -> Therefore Palmar must be scum I don't know what in particular I need to say to you to explain why you're wrong, but you please provide something for me to respond to if you want to call me scum. You're scum because you're more interested in your own survival than in actually finding scum. The best way to get my vote off of you is to find a better target. You've spent enough time defending yourself, I'd rather you spent that time reading filters of people you find suspicious. Here's one thing, I'm obsessed with reads I don't understand. I can move on, and I was starting to do so, beginning with my list of 5 people I considered needed to be looked at. Then you come in and accuse me of being scum without providing anything to back it up other than my role. You literally want to lynch me based on my role. I cannot defend that. But I want to make absolutely 100% certain that if I get lynched there will remain no legitimate reason for it, it will be simply be because people decided to do it and fuck logic. This looks like a confession to me.
Confession of what?
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A confession which would make some sense based on your perception of the cases I and yamato and now Artanis have brought to get you lynched.
"I don't deserve to get caught as scum if the town can't properly catch me and a lie/slip/outlogic me/whatever."
This seems extremely egotistical and yet it would seem to fit with your personality as I have come to see it.
It's like complaining about cheese in BW. It's all part of the game. If you're caught, you're caught bro.
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Anyway, I'm not voting you yet Palmar, because I still await delivery of some analysis.
And hopefully the rest of town will wake the fuck up one of these days and have a look at what's going on.
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On May 09 2013 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:53 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:47 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. Is staying alive only the objective of mafia? The main objective of town is to find scum, not to stay alive. The main objective of scum is to stay alive. Part of lynching scum is to not get lynched as town right? That removes one potential candidate from the pool. Would you say I have not scumhunted this game? I consider both parts equal. If every town player makes sure he doesn't get lynched then the game is quite easy, right? There's a difference between how you act when trying to survive and how I acted when I felt I was going down. There is a clear point here and Artanis is right, but I just don't like how he's going about it. I (and others) have pointed out in the past how you have basically done anything and everything to assume your own survival from one day to the next and you've always managed to squeeze out of it. You could say the same thing might have been true for yamato at times but yamato buckled down and did his fucking damndest to give us his all. You have done no such thing aside from short bursts of activity here and there which have amounted to nothing since you have been a suspect.
You and I aren't the same person, we don't respond in the same way to adversity.
I have done everything to make sure I don't get lynched because well, it's a mislynch to lynch me. I have given you detailed reasoning of my reads of several players in this game.
And your point that my activity has amounted to nothing since I've been a suspect, yet you attack me for trying to explain why I shouldn't be a suspect? I don't understand what you want me to do. It's very, very distracting to be repeatedly called scum with no reasoning behind it.
I don't even understand the logic here, are you saying that the valiant town Palmar would shut up and get lynched whereas scum Palmar would put effort into defending himself?
Hell, I suppose I should be proud people think I'm this good at scum.
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On May 09 2013 06:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
A confession which would make some sense based on your perception of the cases I and yamato and now Artanis have brought to get you lynched.
"I don't deserve to get caught as scum if the town can't properly catch me and a lie/slip/outlogic me/whatever."
This seems extremely egotistical and yet it would seem to fit with your personality as I have come to see it.
It's like complaining about cheese in BW. It's all part of the game. If you're caught, you're caught bro.
Again, you only read my stuff as if I'm scum.
Town-Palmar has the same pride as scum-Palmar. I want to make absolutely 100% dead fucking sure that if I get lynched, there will be no argument that it was a good lynch anyway, that I was playing scummy, any kind of justification.
If I die, I want to demonstrate as visibly as possible that it's a terrible lynch and there will be no excuses other than... well wanting to lynch me for lulz, or maybe for fear, or something. I want no one to be able to claim he voted for me with a reason.
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On May 09 2013 06:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not defending Palmar here because it may very well be that I'd like to see him swing, but your reasoning as to why he's scummy NOW and not yesterday or the day before is terrible.
How is it he hasn't been scumhunting? Because he hasn't scumhunted over the first few hours of the day? What about his push of Yamato? Was that not scumhunting? I'm really curious as to your train of thought.
No it isn't. Pushing him yesterday would only be the correct move if I was near 100% certain. That's far from as certain as I was and am. If we flipped him yesterday and he was town, it'd tell us nothing. If he got a green check on you, we'd know BC was checked innocent (not that we still need it, but that only became public knowledge when it was too late)
I actually hadn't realized he spearheaded the Yamato lynch. BC was in my head for that since he's been singing that tune for a bit longer. I guess that teaches me I should pay more attention.
On May 09 2013 06:51 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. .....you're kidding me right? I've been saying this shit for days. DAYS. We could have lynched him based on any of this yesterday, or even the day before. No, because IF he is town then the information from his check on you could prove invaluable. Or at least I thought so when I wasn't sure Sharrant was JK. What? If he ACTUALLY is a town paranoid cop, what do we learn from the check? ....am I honestly a fucking moron or am I missing something here?
We don't learn anything. This is correct, but it's worth the chance in case he IS an insane cop. By waiting a day, we found out he's either a paranoid cop or a fraud.
On May 09 2013 06:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:47 Palmar wrote:On May 09 2013 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 09 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 09 2013 01:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
WoS, I was not interested in commenting on the thoughts at that time because I didn't want either Palmar or BC lynched yesterday. I also won't comment on it until night ends. I highly doubt anyone but the JK will die, but in case I randomly get shot, just sheep BM yo. He handsome~ Alright I guess you didn't promise anything, I just assumed you were going to comment once night ended. I'm not following how you think Palmar's recent actions are now the nail in the coffin for him, I'm really not. You're presuming I wasn't suspicious of Palmar yet. Ever since I realized Sharrant was the JK I've kept my eye on Palmar. I just wanted to see if he was going to claim Paranoid or Insane, and make sure he did so before I showed my intents so that he couldn't choose the story that would happen to fit the best to argue himself out of a lynch. That large post was a nail in the coffin because he's not actually looking for scum. He's been doing what he's been doing all game ever since he figured the troll act wouldn't work anymore; try to stay alive in whichever way possible. Is staying alive only the objective of mafia? The main objective of town is to find scum, not to stay alive. The main objective of scum is to stay alive. Part of lynching scum is to not get lynched as town right? That removes one potential candidate from the pool. Would you say I have not scumhunted this game? I consider both parts equal. If every town player makes sure he doesn't get lynched then the game is quite easy, right?
I'd say you've yelled for VE to be lynched without much reasoning, then yelled for BC to get lynched without much reasoning until OO and I came in and made the case for you. The only person you've truly gotten lynched is Yamato, and you started backtracking before he hammered himself, and your case on him rested on your supposed poor reading comprehension. I really find it difficult to believe that something WoS and I saw and understood fairly quickly went past you for this long.
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I want everyone on my wagon to admit he's voting me because he's terrible.. basically.
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On May 09 2013 07:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
A confession which would make some sense based on your perception of the cases I and yamato and now Artanis have brought to get you lynched.
"I don't deserve to get caught as scum if the town can't properly catch me and a lie/slip/outlogic me/whatever."
This seems extremely egotistical and yet it would seem to fit with your personality as I have come to see it.
It's like complaining about cheese in BW. It's all part of the game. If you're caught, you're caught bro.
Again, you only read my stuff as if I'm scum. Town-Palmar has the same pride as scum-Palmar. I want to make absolutely 100% dead fucking sure that if I get lynched, there will be no argument that it was a good lynch anyway, that I was playing scummy, any kind of justification. If I die, I want to demonstrate as visibly as possible that it's a terrible lynch and there will be no excuses other than... well wanting to lynch me for lulz, or maybe for fear, or something. I want no one to be able to claim he voted for me with a reason.
But if you are town, what is the POINT of doing this? Pride aside, how are you helping us?
And where you think I contradicted myself; I was pointing out to Artanis that what you did could be perceived as scumhunting, however it didn't amount to anything good for town in the end, nor did it help us establish any reads on others.
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