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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:11 GMT
#5261
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:12 GMT
#5262
Assuming that scum did NOT hold their block, BC can, I suppose, be safely removed from the pool of players I need to look at today, leaving 4.

geript
stutters
hopeless
giggles
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 08 2013 22:13 GMT
#5263
On May 09 2013 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.

If you think what you're doing now will help establish your innocence better than scumhunting I think you're a lot worse at this game then you think.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:13 GMT
#5264
By the way, the fact that Artanis is involved in this shitstorm makes it less likely he is scum. I also think that while extremely stupid, his "trap" thing or whatever it was (basically wanting to lynch me if I was paranoid, sorry I rolled that role bro) means he's at least trying to use some metrics to his scumhunting.

I think most of the scum would've stayed away today/tonight.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 08 2013 22:15 GMT
#5265
Lynching into those four is going to absolutely suck.
Even IF Palmar is scum it's still going to suck.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:18 GMT
#5266
On May 09 2013 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.

If you think what you're doing now will help establish your innocence better than scumhunting I think you're a lot worse at this game then you think.


I have admitted it a million times, it basically disrupts me extremely hard when people call me scum for no reason. This is not the first game I say this.

Take your vote off me, tell me I'm a unique little flower (and town), work with me, criticize my list from the point of view that I'm town. That's how you can get me scumhunting.
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 22:19:28
May 08 2013 22:19 GMT
#5267
Sutters695 the brave wizard has been modkilled for inactivity

please leave all discussions of modkills for the postgame
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:19 GMT
#5268
On May 09 2013 07:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lynching into those four is going to absolutely suck.
Even IF Palmar is scum it's still going to suck.


Just assume I'm town please, so we can start doing something. You can backtrack and autolynch me later in the day or something.

I don't understand your post that it sucks. Do you think it's unlikely there is scum to be found in that list? Would you change the list in any way?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 08 2013 22:19 GMT
#5269
On May 09 2013 07:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.

If you think what you're doing now will help establish your innocence better than scumhunting I think you're a lot worse at this game then you think.


I have admitted it a million times, it basically disrupts me extremely hard when people call me scum for no reason. This is not the first game I say this.

Take your vote off me, tell me I'm a unique little flower (and town), work with me, criticize my list from the point of view that I'm town. That's how you can get me scumhunting.

You called my plan extremely dumb so no can do, I'm going to tunnel you the rest of the game now because my feelings are hurt
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:19 GMT
#5270
well that makes it easier.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:20 GMT
#5271
On May 09 2013 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:18 Palmar wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.

If you think what you're doing now will help establish your innocence better than scumhunting I think you're a lot worse at this game then you think.


I have admitted it a million times, it basically disrupts me extremely hard when people call me scum for no reason. This is not the first game I say this.

Take your vote off me, tell me I'm a unique little flower (and town), work with me, criticize my list from the point of view that I'm town. That's how you can get me scumhunting.

You called my plan extremely dumb so no can do, I'm going to tunnel you the rest of the game now because my feelings are hurt


Ok assume for a second I actually AM paranoid cop.

Is there then no option in your plan other than to autolynch a townie because that's the brilliance of your plan?
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 08 2013 22:20 GMT
#5272
On May 09 2013 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Sutters695 the brave wizard has been modkilled for inactivity

please leave all discussions of modkills for the postgame

Welp, there goes one potential mislynch.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 08 2013 22:22 GMT
#5273
Well that saves us a mislynch I guess? Kinda annoying but mafia did lose tube so I can't be too broken up in the interest of fairness.

If we somehow figure out that Palmar is no longer on the block for today I'd really like to look into Geript as though he were not 'modconfirmed.' Or Hopeless. I don't really think Jiggles/BM is scum. Kush I've honestly got no clue.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 08 2013 22:23 GMT
#5274
On May 09 2013 07:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:18 Palmar wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2013 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I misunderstood your post to mean you were telling me that my scumhunting was pointless because I was a suspect.

I'm helping everyone by establishing my innocence. I hate being called scum with no reasoning and it massively (see: yamato) distracts my scumhunting.

If you think what you're doing now will help establish your innocence better than scumhunting I think you're a lot worse at this game then you think.


I have admitted it a million times, it basically disrupts me extremely hard when people call me scum for no reason. This is not the first game I say this.

Take your vote off me, tell me I'm a unique little flower (and town), work with me, criticize my list from the point of view that I'm town. That's how you can get me scumhunting.

You called my plan extremely dumb so no can do, I'm going to tunnel you the rest of the game now because my feelings are hurt


Ok assume for a second I actually AM paranoid cop.

Is there then no option in your plan other than to autolynch a townie because that's the brilliance of your plan?

It was never meant to be a 100% town or scum thing, I just think it's more likely you would fakeclaim paranoid cop than fakeclaim insane cop should you roll scum, because the latter is riskier unless you're willing to bus teammates.
Say if you're Town, there's a 50% chance you're insane and 50% you're paranoid. Say you claim to be paranoid 80% of the time as scum. This means the likeliness of you being scum when you claim paranoid increases significantly. It doesn't prove anything, just increases the probability.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 08 2013 22:24 GMT
#5275
Actually I shouldn't put Jigglypuff in the same category as BM. I know BM isn't scum.

Alright Palmar I will assume you are town. Remember that what I said earlier on about my vote still stands and will stand until the time comes to hammer you. I won't remind you again.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:25 GMT
#5276
On May 09 2013 07:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well that saves us a mislynch I guess? Kinda annoying but mafia did lose tube so I can't be too broken up in the interest of fairness.

If we somehow figure out that Palmar is no longer on the block for today I'd really like to look into Geript as though he were not 'modconfirmed.' Or Hopeless. I don't really think Jiggles/BM is scum. Kush I've honestly got no clue.


On May 04 2013 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Few things about kush. I haven't played with him enough to know if he's an asshole as any alignment, but generally the aggressive moves (like demanding those essays) are more townielike.

He also made a few posts that just don't add perfectly up if he's scum. The first one being the misconception about the scum night kill, because it's hard to feign the idea so casually:

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
inb4 scumpalmar was roleblocked and thats why theres only 1 nk


Also, this read of his on VE:

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote:
hi ace. you aren't town this game so i'm not listening to your suggestions and nor should anyone else.

VE is town. He is town from his first post in the game.
On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT

Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup?

only town would complain about having to read the op (because the role names weren't colored)


I am gonna vote for shiaopi. I don't want to go for clarity because now Ace is pushing it. A very similar thing happened yesterday. Yamato was the popular lynch, then Ace pushed Oats, claiming the case on Oats was really good (even though in retrospect it sucked).


Means he's thinking about the game from a townie perspective. No one else (I can remember) pointed out this idea that VE was town based on this.

The last point has an obvious bias, knowing I am town:

Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 09:04 kushm4sta wrote:
this is scum? i dont think so

On April 27 2013 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Still think VE is the best lynch.

But I do agree with a clarity lynch. I still don't understand how he entered the thread "catching up" and then had a fully fledged case within an hour. There was additionally no interest in pushing that lynch any harder. There is literally not a single "sharrant" in his filter after the case.

It just doesn't feel natural. He didn't ask Sharrant anything to try to determine his alignment, no "hey sharrant, explain this" or "what do you think about this". Just a straight up case with no build-up and no follow-up. Which basically tells me his heart wasn't really in it.

So with that I'm switching my vote to Clarity.

Lessgo.



Kush basically understands that this post cannot be made by a scum palmar as it's too legit and too in line with what I had been saying all day. Maybe he's a scummer giving me a warm fuzzy feeling about the posts, but it's just too many little things that kush has done throughout the game for me to call him scum.


On May 04 2013 07:07 Palmar wrote:
throwing this post in on top of what I already wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:21 kushm4sta wrote:
Giygas as your self appointed lawyer I must remind you that you do not have to answer any of these questions, as you have not yet been charged with a crime.



Kush is just too involved, genuine and carefree for me to think he's scum.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:26 GMT
#5277
On May 09 2013 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually I shouldn't put Jigglypuff in the same category as BM. I know BM isn't scum.


Why do you know BM isn't scum?

I agree, I just want to know your thought process.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 08 2013 22:26 GMT
#5278
Would him being carefree include his dumb vote on yamato?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2013 22:27 GMT
#5279
I also think Kush wanting to lynch me as punishment but still being willing to hold off on it is something a townie would rather say than scum.

Kush is probably town.
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 08 2013 22:28 GMT
#5280
On May 09 2013 07:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually I shouldn't put Jigglypuff in the same category as BM. I know BM isn't scum.


Why do you know BM isn't scum?

I agree, I just want to know your thought process.

Why do you want to know the thought process of a strong town read on a strong town read that you agree with?
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