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On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back. Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1? right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2. Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died. So what do YOU want to do today?
Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod.
Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days
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So we could lynch Hopeless.
Because he's a lurker
And he's mafia.
Easy
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It's worth looking into the fact that VE wasn't fully sold on Hopeless being scum.
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Nah, lynch hopeless.
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On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back. Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1? right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2. Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died. So what do YOU want to do today? Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod. Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days
Let's do work, you and I.
Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job.
Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far.
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I want to lynch yamato because he soft defended shiaopi and clarity. too much of a coincidence imo. i already posted the quote 2 times.
plus there are a ton of other reasons other people have posted.
yamato...lurker doesn't make you scum. Town easily can lurk for a million different reasons and I was doing it myself for the middle part of this game.
Your case against hopeless..i do not find it convincing in the least.
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Also if you'll notice Ace has been a lot less active and helpful now that he's been RBed every night---he knows he's been caught imo.
It's going to come down to mafia hunting now.
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sorry to double post, but I want to add something about hopeless..
every single game i played with the guy, I wanted to lynch him. He always looks like this.
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yamato's play has been different from for example the game he hydra'd with geript. But at the same time my initial impression was just "different" but not "scummy".
but then again if he's just gonna afk we might as well murder him.
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Thinking about it now I'm pretty sure Hopeless has the biggest chance to flip red, followed by BC. Yamato's activity has stayed constant even while mafia comes closer and closer to losing the game while Hopeless and BC's activity levels have trailed off big time as they become demoralized. I know activity level isn't always a good tell but this game it certainly has been.
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Guys, we know Ace isn't scum and we can't be certain of a 3rd party just yet, I suggest that whoever's roleblocking him continues to roleblock him. If we lose a jailer then we can look into it, but until then I'd rather lynch scum because we know there's scum. If the two scum are gone and we haven't won yet, then we can hang him.
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Also,
Where oh where has Bill Murray the town hero gone?
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On May 02 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back. Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1? right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2. Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died. So what do YOU want to do today? Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod. Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days Let's do work, you and I. Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job. Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far.
I think the right call would be to give a night off of RBing Ace. It's an easy way to exclude him as 3p which just leaves town imo. Doesn't take that long and only costs us 1 and I don't think it even costs us a mislynch. So I don't see a reason to lynch ace currently.
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Blazinghand
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Actually, 15 alive = 8 to lynch my bad counting skills zz
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Why is palmer not being voted for anymore?
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On May 02 2013 05:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Why is palmer not being voted for anymore?
Because BC looks worse between the two and Hopeless looks worse than both combined.
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On May 02 2013 05:53 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back. Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1? right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2. Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died. So what do YOU want to do today? Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod. Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days Let's do work, you and I. Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job. Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far. I think the right call would be to give a night off of RBing Ace. It's an easy way to exclude him as 3p which just leaves town imo. Doesn't take that long and only costs us 1 and I don't think it even costs us a mislynch. So I don't see a reason to lynch ace currently.
Alright well we need to be sure there's no way scum can fuck this up for us then. As far as I can tell they don't have a RB let and no way of getting alternate NKs so assuming we drop the JK on Ace someone will die N6?
Would be nice if we can lynch at LEAST one scum by that point so we're still in no danger of losing by the time we have to lynch him and lose an extra townie.
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Here's a noodle-scratcher btw, where is Sharrant, and why exactly isn't he dead?
Like...I know he's been town all game but why exactly has he lurked it up the past few days after contributing a ton on the first few days? I would think that scum would find him threat enough to target for NKs (at least moreso than Rayn) but I guess not? Not killing Sharrant over CC and VE makes sense I guess but something still strikes me as odd. I guess they killed Rayn as a gamble that they could frame me instead of getting rid of someone more useful at the time then they had to kill cops?
Where are you Sharrant?! Help us scour the streets of filth!
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On May 02 2013 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Why is palmer not being voted for anymore? Because BC looks worse between the two and Hopeless looks worse than both combined.
The guy whos played enough games to know better and couldn't be verified. By a cop;ooks better then the guy he tried to get killed off a single check only to declare paranoid when people called bullshit?
VE said he thought palmer was scum too... killing him after he says yamato buries it well and is a good wifom bomb.
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On May 02 2013 06:14 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 02 2013 05:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Why is palmer not being voted for anymore? Because BC looks worse between the two and Hopeless looks worse than both combined. The guy whos played enough games to know better and couldn't be verified. By a cop;ooks better then the guy he tried to get killed off a single check only to declare paranoid when people called bullshit? VE said he thought palmer was scum too... killing him after he says yamato buries it well and is a good wifom bomb.
I can take one element from the game and use it to jump to conclusions too. You're presuming Palmar made up that he's a cop when you take this line. It's very possible he's a paranoid cop, and the guilty check was just a bonus upon the suspicion he already had on BC.
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On May 02 2013 05:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also,
Where oh where has Bill Murray the town hero gone?
This. Too many people have fucked off in this game and it's a very easy way to lose.
Geript you mentioned you think yamato is scum. Is he your first choice for a mafia lynch today?
Got a case?
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