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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 01 2013 22:23 GMT
#4101
Just for clarity my vote would be sitting on Palmar right now. The only reason it's not is I'm at work and its raining which means we might get really busy and I don't want to come back to a hammer like with Shiaopi and lose even more time.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#4102
Just catching up, and still on only page 120 of the re-read due to sleep + school. However, we should NOT lynch Palmar. He has a huge town read for me as his first finger pointing for mafia was Clarity on day 1, along with BM. Both of them can not be scum in my eyes for that reason, unless one of them straight up slips.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#4103
We are simply not lynching palmar today. Anyone who has seriously suggested that we do so needs to take a break, step back, think about why, and prove to me he's the best lynch today.

Cop claim? Probably true
Broken cop? Definitely
Lazy? Tautology (see also n. Palmar)
Wants to kill BC? Isolate his reasons outside of his check. I wanted to kill BC d1 too for being sort of a jerk. From what I remember, because it would be fun? It totally would.

Today Palmar is my ally in lynching BC. I have demonstrated a scum mindset on BC's behalf that no one has proven to be demonstrably false.

We are running out of objectively scummy shit to lynch for.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 01 2013 22:28 GMT
#4104
The three people who pushed for a Clarity lynch day 1/night 1 were BM first, then Palmar, then BC.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 01 2013 22:29 GMT
#4105
EBWOP: This gives me a town read on them (for clarification).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 01 2013 22:30 GMT
#4106
I'm going to sleep. Please don't lynch me in the next 24 hours. You may not realize it yet, but I'm actually town. And I don't like losing so I want time to construct a good amount of final thoughts on this game before I die.

So just hold your horses until I go to sleep tomorrow night, then you can lynch me if you want to.

Even if you think I'm scum it's strictly the wrong play to not let me share all my thoughts, since you might find a "slip" to who is my "teammate" in it.
Computer says mafia
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 01 2013 22:41 GMT
#4107
On May 02 2013 07:26 ObviousOne wrote:
We are simply not lynching palmar today. Anyone who has seriously suggested that we do so needs to take a break, step back, think about why, and prove to me he's the best lynch today.

Cop claim? Probably true
Broken cop? Definitely
Lazy? Tautology (see also n. Palmar)
Wants to kill BC? Isolate his reasons outside of his check. I wanted to kill BC d1 too for being sort of a jerk. From what I remember, because it would be fun? It totally would.

Today Palmar is my ally in lynching BC. I have demonstrated a scum mindset on BC's behalf that no one has proven to be demonstrably false.

We are running out of objectively scummy shit to lynch for.

I'm on my phone. Can you give me a brief summary of what you think BC has done to deserve the noose? I realize you've probably said it before but I can't filter dive right now.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 01 2013 22:52 GMT
#4108
On May 02 2013 07:24 GiygaS wrote:
Just catching up, and still on only page 120 of the re-read due to sleep + school. However, we should NOT lynch Palmar. He has a huge town read for me as his first finger pointing for mafia was Clarity on day 1, along with BM. Both of them can not be scum in my eyes for that reason, unless one of them straight up slips.

Devil's advocate time, as I mostly agree that Palmar shouldn't be lynched today. Did you read my case on Palmar Guygas?
Notice how I am able to use this same evidence as a scumtell due to him pointing out Clarity as a possible early bus since Clarity was already gone for a while by that point?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#4109
On May 02 2013 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:24 GiygaS wrote:
Just catching up, and still on only page 120 of the re-read due to sleep + school. However, we should NOT lynch Palmar. He has a huge town read for me as his first finger pointing for mafia was Clarity on day 1, along with BM. Both of them can not be scum in my eyes for that reason, unless one of them straight up slips.

Devil's advocate time, as I mostly agree that Palmar shouldn't be lynched today. Did you read my case on Palmar Guygas?
Notice how I am able to use this same evidence as a scumtell due to him pointing out Clarity as a possible early bus since Clarity was already gone for a while by that point?

My counter point being that this was day 1 (page 54) that Palmar initially called Clarity scum (a simple "sup scum"). This was only 3 pages after Clarity posted his case on Sharrant. Clarity was not already gone for a while by that point, so this is straight up false.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 01 2013 23:08 GMT
#4110
The cobbler is scum folks.
Case inc tomorrow. Get hype.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 01 2013 23:21 GMT
#4111
On May 02 2013 08:01 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 07:24 GiygaS wrote:
Just catching up, and still on only page 120 of the re-read due to sleep + school. However, we should NOT lynch Palmar. He has a huge town read for me as his first finger pointing for mafia was Clarity on day 1, along with BM. Both of them can not be scum in my eyes for that reason, unless one of them straight up slips.

Devil's advocate time, as I mostly agree that Palmar shouldn't be lynched today. Did you read my case on Palmar Guygas?
Notice how I am able to use this same evidence as a scumtell due to him pointing out Clarity as a possible early bus since Clarity was already gone for a while by that point?

My counter point being that this was day 1 (page 54) that Palmar initially called Clarity scum (a simple "sup scum"). This was only 3 pages after Clarity posted his case on Sharrant. Clarity was not already gone for a while by that point, so this is straight up false.

Yup I noticed that as well and neglected to mention it when I was making my case as I was confirmation biasing hard initially. By the end of the case its fairly evident I'm not so sure anymore but he had more scum points than town. That one 'sup scum' on its own...just don't see any reason at all scum would do that. It could be Palmar isn't playing a lazy as fuck town game and has me confused the whole time but yeah I'm not lynching him ahead of other suspects today.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 01 2013 23:59 GMT
#4112
On April 23 2013 21:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

Again, worst reasoning ever.
Cause im town. Yeah.

Hopeless. Why am I scum?


don't even care if you're scum. throwing suspicion on your emperor should be punishable by death.





"oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained."

Scumslip mixed with the whole stupid reason he basically voted for oats. This is something I would like to see someone argue against please.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#4113
On May 02 2013 08:59 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

Again, worst reasoning ever.
Cause im town. Yeah.

Hopeless. Why am I scum?


don't even care if you're scum. throwing suspicion on your emperor should be punishable by death.





"oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained."

Scumslip mixed with the whole stupid reason he basically voted for oats. This is something I would like to see someone argue against please.

Sorry for being lazy, but could you provide the actual quote, I have a lot of reading and an essay to do tonight in addition to my rereading the thread.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 00:29 GMT
#4114
He literally quoted it...can we lynch giggles for failure to read?
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#4115
I thought he was paraphrasing, since he didn't use an actual quote (like the quote function). My bad. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's Palmar being Palmar. A lot of his posts looked like this at that point in the game.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#4116
Listen to Scumcast 3, really actually listen to it don't just play it in the background. Palmar talks about D1 lynches. It totally fits with everything he said in the cast. Oats was a good D1 lynch even though Oats was town. You cannot apologize for lynching town D1, and since you are usually going to hit town you have to make it a GOOD D1 lynch. A GOOD D1 lynch gives you information without lynching for information. You have people take sides, you see who flies in the face of logic, reason, how people escape the noose. Accept the fact that D1 lynches tend to hit town, accept that he understands and embraces this, and use the information constructively. His slip isn't a scum slip, it's his actual mindset.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#4117
OO is in love with palmar lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#4118
On May 02 2013 09:37 GiygaS wrote:
I thought he was paraphrasing, since he didn't use an actual quote (like the quote function). My bad. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's Palmar being Palmar. A lot of his posts looked like this at that point in the game.

Its from my Mason QT, I'm not allowed to quote it.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#4119
On May 02 2013 09:37 ObviousOne wrote:
Listen to Scumcast 3, really actually listen to it don't just play it in the background. Palmar talks about D1 lynches. It totally fits with everything he said in the cast. Oats was a good D1 lynch even though Oats was town. You cannot apologize for lynching town D1, and since you are usually going to hit town you have to make it a GOOD D1 lynch. A GOOD D1 lynch gives you information without lynching for information. You have people take sides, you see who flies in the face of logic, reason, how people escape the noose. Accept the fact that D1 lynches tend to hit town, accept that he understands and embraces this, and use the information constructively. His slip isn't a scum slip, it's his actual mindset.

If that was the case, he would have said so as his reasonings. he would say " I explained why, your going to hit town just accept it unless yo uget lucky Go listen to the podcast again.." He said for reasons not explained, if he had time to do a cop check first, that would be one thing. But I want to know what those unexplained reasons are,

On April 29 2013 10:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 05:47 TheRavensName wrote:
He also mentioned that "oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained. " Even a scum would at least kind of care right?


The reasons best left unexplained have now been explained. I was actively trying to be useless/awful without sabotaging town. I usually say it's a terrible idea to change your play when you roll blue... but my normal play gets me shot night 1 almost every damn game, so I decided to give it a shot.



This was not a satisfactory answer.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#4120
There's zero reason not to lynch Hopeless.

Zero.
Writer@WriterYamato
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