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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2013 21:27 GMT
#4081
We lynch Palmar
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 01 2013 21:29 GMT
#4082
On May 02 2013 06:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:14 TheRavensName wrote:
On May 02 2013 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 05:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Why is palmer not being voted for anymore?

Because BC looks worse between the two and Hopeless looks worse than both combined.

The guy whos played enough games to know better and couldn't be verified. By a cop;ooks better then the guy he tried to get killed off a single check only to declare paranoid when people called bullshit?

VE said he thought palmer was scum too... killing him after he says yamato buries it well and is a good wifom bomb.

I can take one element from the game and use it to jump to conclusions too. You're presuming Palmar made up that he's a cop when you take this line. It's very possible he's a paranoid cop, and the guilty check was just a bonus upon the suspicion he already had on BC.

But palmar should know better that's a noob mistake even I wouldn,t have walked into is my point. And look it fished out all our confirmed cops who all died before he could be checked. If I wanted to take one random thing I would go find where palmer said anyone who thought he wasn't town was going to die and call it a scum slip.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#4083
On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar

Good reasoning.
I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about.

At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 01 2013 21:37 GMT
#4084
On May 02 2013 06:29 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:14 TheRavensName wrote:
On May 02 2013 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 05:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Why is palmer not being voted for anymore?

Because BC looks worse between the two and Hopeless looks worse than both combined.

The guy whos played enough games to know better and couldn't be verified. By a cop;ooks better then the guy he tried to get killed off a single check only to declare paranoid when people called bullshit?

VE said he thought palmer was scum too... killing him after he says yamato buries it well and is a good wifom bomb.

I can take one element from the game and use it to jump to conclusions too. You're presuming Palmar made up that he's a cop when you take this line. It's very possible he's a paranoid cop, and the guilty check was just a bonus upon the suspicion he already had on BC.

But palmar should know better that's a noob mistake even I wouldn,t have walked into is my point. And look it fished out all our confirmed cops who all died before he could be checked. If I wanted to take one random thing I would go find where palmer said anyone who thought he wasn't town was going to die and call it a scum slip.

It has nothing to do with being a noob mistake and everything to do with Palmar being lazy and figuring he has an argument to call BC scum with minimal effort. I can see Palmar being scum, but I don't find it as likely as BC being scum and certainly not as likely as Hopeless being scum. Also, nice straw man.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#4085
Wasn't the discussion a couple days ago that one cop was probably lying? Palmar happens to be paranoid after claiming cop without knowing his sanity while trying to lynch BC for a check? Is there something in his filter you see that really makes him town I'm missing?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#4086
On May 02 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar

Good reasoning.
I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about.

At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again?


I've got a job but my activity hasn't died. I've been around. And yes OF COURSE I was roleblocked.

Palmar gets lynched because his claim was shoddy to begin with. "I'm lazy" isn't a valid defense lol. He wanted to lynch BC and didn't even take into account he could be paranoid. Get rid of him.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 01 2013 21:43 GMT
#4087
On May 02 2013 06:40 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar

Good reasoning.
I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about.

At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again?


I've got a job but my activity hasn't died. I've been around. And yes OF COURSE I was roleblocked.

Palmar gets lynched because his claim was shoddy to begin with. "I'm lazy" isn't a valid defense lol. He wanted to lynch BC and didn't even take into account he could be paranoid. Get rid of him.


Still want to lynch BC. I checked him cause I thought he was scum.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#4088
On May 02 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
Wasn't the discussion a couple days ago that one cop was probably lying? Palmar happens to be paranoid after claiming cop without knowing his sanity while trying to lynch BC for a check? Is there something in his filter you see that really makes him town I'm missing?

Nothing about that REALLY makes him town but to pull that shit as scum and trying to do it in earnest doesn't make much sense either. I forget whose idea this was but I COULD see it being an attempt to protect BC if they were both scum considering no one would take his read seriously. Ugh the end of this game is gonna be tough.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#4089
On May 02 2013 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:40 Ace wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar

Good reasoning.
I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about.

At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again?


I've got a job but my activity hasn't died. I've been around. And yes OF COURSE I was roleblocked.

Palmar gets lynched because his claim was shoddy to begin with. "I'm lazy" isn't a valid defense lol. He wanted to lynch BC and didn't even take into account he could be paranoid. Get rid of him.


Still want to lynch BC. I checked him cause I thought he was scum.


what are your thoughts on global warming?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 01 2013 21:46 GMT
#4090
On May 02 2013 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
Wasn't the discussion a couple days ago that one cop was probably lying? Palmar happens to be paranoid after claiming cop without knowing his sanity while trying to lynch BC for a check? Is there something in his filter you see that really makes him town I'm missing?

Nothing about that REALLY makes him town but to pull that shit as scum and trying to do it in earnest doesn't make much sense either. I forget whose idea this was but I COULD see it being an attempt to protect BC if they were both scum considering no one would take his read seriously. Ugh the end of this game is gonna be tough.

Palmar and BC being scum together would be a big surprise to me. I could see either being scum individually but not together.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 01 2013 21:48 GMT
#4091
i would be open to lynching palmar
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 01 2013 21:52 GMT
#4092
Okay artanis how aboout when it was sharrity v clarity shio went out of his way to mention how towwny palmar was compared to everyone on clarity and that's why he wanted to vote sharrant? He even likes palmars claim the most. Hell if you throw that in, looks more like palmer chose clarity over shar and shio because it was more popular and he was better getting rid of than shiao who wasn't on the edge of being modkilled?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 01 2013 21:55 GMT
#4093
Someone needs to write an actual case on me if you want to try to lynch me.
Computer says mafia
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 01 2013 21:57 GMT
#4094
On May 02 2013 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
Wasn't the discussion a couple days ago that one cop was probably lying? Palmar happens to be paranoid after claiming cop without knowing his sanity while trying to lynch BC for a check? Is there something in his filter you see that really makes him town I'm missing?

Nothing about that REALLY makes him town but to pull that shit as scum and trying to do it in earnest doesn't make much sense either. I forget whose idea this was but I COULD see it being an attempt to protect BC if they were both scum considering no one would take his read seriously. Ugh the end of this game is gonna be tough.

Eh, it just feels like Palmar has done this not giving a shit before but it always came back to him trying. Additionally if part of his reason for not giving a shit was to survive n1, why is it still happening?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#4095
On May 02 2013 06:52 TheRavensName wrote:
Okay artanis how aboout when it was sharrity v clarity shio went out of his way to mention how towwny palmar was compared to everyone on clarity and that's why he wanted to vote sharrant? He even likes palmars claim the most. Hell if you throw that in, looks more like palmer chose clarity over shar and shio because it was more popular and he was better getting rid of than shiao who wasn't on the edge of being modkilled?

When I played scum I never called any of my teammates super townie. Actually, if anything, scum find it difficult to interact with one another. Shiao had two interactions with BC and never discussed him once. Clarity discusses Palmar and BC equally and calls BC a townread, so if you want to go through with whom players that flipped scum called town, clarity did so for BC. As for the latter reason, that's worthless speculation. It'd be grounds to suspect Ace more than anything since he's the one that derailed the lynch.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#4096
On May 02 2013 06:55 Palmar wrote:
Someone needs to write an actual case on me if you want to try to lynch me.

Eh. You'd just ignore it anyways. This is easier and funner. Put most my musings togethere and ypu have a complete case. I just like small easy to digest chunks compared to huge blobs. Your certainly not doing anything to make me doubt my attempts to push you.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#4097
On May 02 2013 06:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:52 TheRavensName wrote:
Okay artanis how aboout when it was sharrity v clarity shio went out of his way to mention how towwny palmar was compared to everyone on clarity and that's why he wanted to vote sharrant? He even likes palmars claim the most. Hell if you throw that in, looks more like palmer chose clarity over shar and shio because it was more popular and he was better getting rid of than shiao who wasn't on the edge of being modkilled?

When I played scum I never called any of my teammates super townie. Actually, if anything, scum find it difficult to interact with one another. Shiao had two interactions with BC and never discussed him once. Clarity discusses Palmar and BC equally and calls BC a townread, so if you want to go through with whom players that flipped scum called town, clarity did so for BC. As for the latter reason, that's worthless speculation. It'd be grounds to suspect Ace more than anything since he's the one that derailed the lynch.

Palmar teying to push a thread town read over a confirmed scum isn't derailing?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 01 2013 22:04 GMT
#4098
Reasons palmar is likely to flip red in my eyes:

- Eager to look active by declaring Vivax town for a really stupid reason. I've been through this before, as noted by why most people accused me of being scum in the first place.
- pointing out "modkillable" behavior but neglecting to follow through in any form:
(from VE's filter)
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



- case of the cba, even now in the face of the next point:
- Unverified cop claim, which is now thought to be "paranoid". Grats on trying to get BC lynched for no good reason.
- he's alive (so are Ace and BC, but Palmar looks worst of the vets)




I'm going to try to filter through all the players remaining and read dump tonight/tomorrow morning, so try not to hammer me before I do that please and thank you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 01 2013 22:05 GMT
#4099
On May 02 2013 07:00 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:52 TheRavensName wrote:
Okay artanis how aboout when it was sharrity v clarity shio went out of his way to mention how towwny palmar was compared to everyone on clarity and that's why he wanted to vote sharrant? He even likes palmars claim the most. Hell if you throw that in, looks more like palmer chose clarity over shar and shio because it was more popular and he was better getting rid of than shiao who wasn't on the edge of being modkilled?

When I played scum I never called any of my teammates super townie. Actually, if anything, scum find it difficult to interact with one another. Shiao had two interactions with BC and never discussed him once. Clarity discusses Palmar and BC equally and calls BC a townread, so if you want to go through with whom players that flipped scum called town, clarity did so for BC. As for the latter reason, that's worthless speculation. It'd be grounds to suspect Ace more than anything since he's the one that derailed the lynch.

Palmar teying to push a thread town read over a confirmed scum isn't derailing?

What exactly do you mean? I'm confused.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 01 2013 22:16 GMT
#4100
~~~ Vote Count ~~~

Yamato77 (1) kushm4sta
Hopeless1der (2) Yamato77, Artanis[Xp]
Palmar (1) Ace



Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

Please keep in mind that with 15 alive it now only takes 8 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us.

TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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