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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#381
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.
table for two on a tv tray
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 21 2013 16:36 GMT
#382
On April 22 2013 01:27 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

Yes but it would be very difficult for scum to realize that TOWN had to look at the OP as well.
Scum would not say "oh shit I had to look at the OP" because they would have no idea if town ALSO had to look at the OP.


I understand now, thank you Kush.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 21 2013 16:36 GMT
#383
On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.

self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:37 GMT
#384
On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.

self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it.

Yes there is, if you don't know if they even exist/how many of them there are.

Everyone who claims miller should be lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#385
On April 22 2013 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
I don't see it as particularly telling of either alignment as it was Vivax's first post. I read it and just kind of shook my head. I can follow not wanting to lynch him based on being reckless, though not with the certainty that Palmar has suggested. I'm specifically interested in the bolded.

I think there's a reasonable value oddly enought to the Vivax conjecture. Anyone who posted early is more likely, as a general rule, to be town as scum are more likely consult a QT for direction and coordinate first. The problem with the heuristic is quite simply that it doesn't work for everyone equally; as a general rule, I think it's likely to be true, but without applying it to the specific people that posted early makes it more of a generally worthless statement.
Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then
yamato--I am unaware of his scum tendencies, but don't think that posting early is indicative either way
oats--AFAIK he's a vet, in the least he's towards the spammy aggressive side which makes posting early non-alignment indicative
WoS--he always rolls scum so there's that I guess
geript--Clearly an egotistical maniac and posted in The Game early as scum, so again non-alignment indicative
Shaio--No clue as to experience, wanting to kill BM is more likely town
Vivax--I'm not familiar enough with his meta, but the odd statement alone makes me think he's more likely town as I don't think he's crazy enough to spout that as scum

So far, the list of people that I'm not interested in lynching today:
Sylencia
Vivax
Shaio
Palmar
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 21 2013 16:40 GMT
#386
So BM is scum geript?
You are saying a WHOLE lotta nothing with that post.
No gg, No skill.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 16:41 GMT
#387
On April 22 2013 01:38 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
I don't see it as particularly telling of either alignment as it was Vivax's first post. I read it and just kind of shook my head. I can follow not wanting to lynch him based on being reckless, though not with the certainty that Palmar has suggested. I'm specifically interested in the bolded.

I think there's a reasonable value oddly enought to the Vivax conjecture. Anyone who posted early is more likely, as a general rule, to be town as scum are more likely consult a QT for direction and coordinate first. The problem with the heuristic is quite simply that it doesn't work for everyone equally; as a general rule, I think it's likely to be true, but without applying it to the specific people that posted early makes it more of a generally worthless statement.
Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then
yamato--I am unaware of his scum tendencies, but don't think that posting early is indicative either way
oats--AFAIK he's a vet, in the least he's towards the spammy aggressive side which makes posting early non-alignment indicative
WoS--he always rolls scum so there's that I guess
geript--Clearly an egotistical maniac and posted in The Game early as scum, so again non-alignment indicative
Shaio--No clue as to experience, wanting to kill BM is more likely town
Vivax--I'm not familiar enough with his meta, but the odd statement alone makes me think he's more likely town as I don't think he's crazy enough to spout that as scum

So far, the list of people that I'm not interested in lynching today:
Sylencia
Vivax
Shaio
Palmar


Just bolding.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:41 GMT
#388
getmoript is there anyone who you'd like to... you know.. lynch? That's kinda the point of the game if you are town..
table for two on a tv tray
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#389
On April 22 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.

self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it.

Yes there is, if you don't know if they even exist/how many of them there are.

Everyone who claims miller should be lynched.


you keep saying this with no basis whatsoever to back it up. how about you... back it up?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#390
On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.

self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it.


In a setup where their existence and numbers are known they should claim.

In this setup they really shouldn't. Your responsibility as a self-aware miller in a set-up like this. Ideally we policy lynch miller claims on day one. But I want to think on it because there are a ton of stupid people around who might think it's a good idea to claim miller. You being a good example.

Will explain more when I have a keyboard.
Computer says mafia
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 16:48 GMT
#391
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 16:48 GMT
#392
##Vote: Getmoript

No clue as to motives, and his opening post was a mess of wishy-washy sandwiched between a bunch of "i dont knows"
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 16:50 GMT
#393
On April 22 2013 01:48 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?


First of all, how else would the host give a scum player a QT? In any game I've ever played in, that's how we got QT's across... via PM. lol. Also, OP sample PM's.

Voldemort, your QT: _____
Lucius Malfoy, your QT: _____

Now, who would you like to lynch today. Saying a lurker is completely fine at this point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:50 GMT
#394
On April 22 2013 01:48 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?


On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Sample PMs:

Auror
Brave Wizard
Harry Potter
Rita Skeeter
Voldemort, your QT: _____
Lucius Malfoy, your QT: _____


How the fuck is this so difficult to understand?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 16:51 GMT
#395
Thank you Hopeless. Fuck.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#396
I could lynch BM or a lurker or something. Everyone talking is sounding more or less town to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#397
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 16:56 GMT
#398
On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote:
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.


Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#399
On April 22 2013 01:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:48 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?


On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Sample PMs:

Show nested quote +
Auror
Show nested quote +
Brave Wizard
Show nested quote +
Harry Potter
Show nested quote +
Rita Skeeter
Show nested quote +
Voldemort, your QT: _____
Show nested quote +
Lucius Malfoy, your QT: _____


How the fuck is this so difficult to understand?

Because I never read that far down in the OP.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#400
Geript rerrible or scum?
Computer says mafia
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