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drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
April 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#421
partway through, don't feel well, going back to bed, will post thoughts once I've read more than 2 pages
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 18:01 GMT
#422
It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 18:06 GMT
#423
So marv is your personal coach basically? If thats how I understand it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 21 2013 18:08 GMT
#424
-Some more spam-
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2013 18:10 GMT
#425
Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town?

You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why.


twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 18:10 GMT
#426
With a random post from him or two, yes.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#427
On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town?

You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why.


Do you want to lynch him?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2013 18:20 GMT
#428
On April 22 2013 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town?

You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why.


Do you want to lynch him?

Not this early, no, but the difference between me and what marv did is he states a whole bunch of reads and specifically stated who he doesn't want to lynch without including Palmar in those reads. I don't have a read on Palmar at all, therefore I have no reason to lynch him. YET.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 18:25 GMT
#429
That was me (geript) not marv despite referring to myself in third person.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 21 2013 18:31 GMT
#430
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 03:17 Vivax wrote:
On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town?

You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why.


Do you want to lynch him?

Not this early, no, but the difference between me and what marv did is he states a whole bunch of reads and specifically stated who he doesn't want to lynch without including Palmar in those reads. I don't have a read on Palmar at all, therefore I have no reason to lynch him. YET.



I kinda fail to see the reason for why you ask somebody about his townread on Palmar, if you don't have intention to lynch Palmar/think he's scum. If you could explain your motivation for that question, maybe, cause I seem to lack creativity.

It's basically a similar question to the one asked by hopeless. Hopeless questions was still more scummy cause of its selectivity and cause I can see it coming from scum who don't want townies who trust each other.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2013 18:35 GMT
#431
Because Palmar is literally the only person in that post that has no explanation as to the read. If you can't see why that's suspicious I don't really have much else to say.

Which question of Hopeless's are you referring to?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 21 2013 18:35 GMT
#432
what the actual fuck is this hydra...so terrible, should be illegal.
i want to policy lynch it
##unvote
##vote getmore
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
April 21 2013 18:49 GMT
#433
I don't really see issues with getmoript.
I need people to support me in my just cause against hopeless1der.
He prefers to discredit townreads and talking about heuristics instead of finding scum.

Kush, let's join forces again. Let's become a psychoactive contraceptive another time.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 21 2013 18:54 GMT
#434
Ok, just getting caught up and this is the third time writing this post as it always seems to go back a page right before I finish.

#1: Please give us a way to see who out of the two of you is talking every post getmoript. I know it's mostly going to be geript, but it would just be nice for clarity's sake. A simple "-geript" at the end of a post would be nice.

#2: I honestly don't know what to think of this strange heuristic thing, and I'm honestly more interested to see how oats responds to Palmar, and how Palmar responds to that. I'm overall getting a town-read on Vivax since as Cheesecake said, recklessness is usually a town trait.It's a pretty weak town read, but I just want to get out of this stupid argument that is really getting us nowhere now.

#3: Are we even sure that BM was roleclaiming Snape(self-aware miller)? It's probable, but I want to hear his response before confirming that. On that subject, milllers should not roleclaim. It's been said already that we may want to policy lynch roleclaiming millers from this point on, and I'd agree with that, as we can't speculate on what kind of rolelist blazinghand gave us. We don't know how many there are, and as such can not use that info productively (who knows, maybe BH gave us 5 self-aware millers).

Those are my thoughts so far, it's good to be back! :D
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 21 2013 19:04 GMT
#435
On April 22 2013 03:01 getmoript wrote:
It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here.

Let me get this straight. This is geript and marv both and you are both playing?
table for two on a tv tray
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 19:07 GMT
#436
More me than Marv, but yes.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 21 2013 19:14 GMT
#437
On April 22 2013 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Defend against what? Why can't he have a townread on Palmar and know he's not going to be active as town and sheep a townread? I'm going to be in Vegas for 4 days next weekend and I'll be playing in a similar fashion (if I live that long) and I'm town, that seems feasible enough. Has he said he's not going to be active?

He's here now and you're not asking him anything. You're whole reasoning is bullshit.

Palmar, what do you make of this?
Writer@WriterYamato
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 19:47 GMT
#438
Yamato you still around?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 21 2013 19:52 GMT
#439
On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?


I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet.

Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place.

Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray


Bill Murray's post wasn't a claim though
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 21 2013 19:56 GMT
#440
Good afternoon, everyone.

Since no one has mentioned it, I figure I may as well. At the very least everyone should, when voting for someone, note if their vote puts the person at L-1. Ideally I'd like people to note the position that each vote puts a player in, but it's not nearly as relevant when they're at L/2 votes or less.

I'm not sure how I feel about policy lynching people that claim miller. I'd rather spend today's lynch on scum, and I need to see more from BM to know if he is. At this point I would say that miller's should claim if they feel that they're in danger of wasting a detective action (and not before that point), but that all miller claims should be treated as a mark against the player, rather than a scum claim.

Enough about policy.

Right now I would like to lynch TheRavensName. (I think someone mentioned that they have a town read on him, if you have something relevant that would explain things, please tell me.)


On April 21 2013 23:01 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:38 TheRavensName wrote:
Huh... I was curious to see how big boys start playing the game... and less then a page's worth of posting totals I see an OMGuS. I feel somewhat surprised; apparently the way newbies open mafia games is the right way?

PS: Bill Murray yelling indoors is really mean.


Oooo, an omgus, interesting.
Are you okay with the way Oats is playing the game?

I'm not a 100% sure what hes doing, but if you want to call it playing then... maybe? Truth be told the fact that palmer just randomly takes offense to a baseless acucsation in a game that just started doesn't make a lot of since to me.


He's asking for a base to the accusation, precisely.
Do you have any ideas to get some discussion started? Your entrance kinda looked like you tried to downplay what's going on in the thread, which in turn makes me think you're trying to communicate reasons for not doing anything.
Do you think this description fits your play or did your posts have other purposes?


I thought it just genuinely showed disapointment. I've always had difficulty understand what to do at the start of day 1, and I see that there really is no good way to start day 1 in a purely productive way. So I suppose your right, I'm trying to downplay what happens because it doesn't seem productive, unless of course we need to know why Yamato has many weapons that arn' t guns.....

And I think its more suspicious to ask in that way rather than, just ask.... seeing as how he didn't even vote baselessly or hasn't made an ssue out of it yet. If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something.


Things I don't like about this chain of quotes:

"I thought it just genuinely showed dissapointment" that reads scummy to me. It sounds like he tried, and failed to have his post sound like someone who is dissapointed in the atmosphere of the town, and is trying to reaffirm that in other people's minds.

He attacks the discussion so far, then sort of waffles on it, but then admits he's trying to attack the discussion.

He picks the most meaningless parts of the discussion to bring up, or downplays their importance: Bill Murray talking in caps, reducing Palmar's interaction to an OMGUS, stating the conversation was unproductive, bringing up Yamato's "weapons but not guns", and then saying that small interactions are not particularly important.

I don't see critical thought in the way he looks at other players, I think everyone should have come away from the first few pages with a few town reads, but he just looks at it as if it's spam for the sake of spam.

@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?

Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?

Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?




On April 22 2013 03:01 getmoript wrote:
It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here.


Marv, I'd be gay for you if you post more than once or twice per cycle.
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