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drazak
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getmoript
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Vivax
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
 You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why. | ||
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getmoript
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Vivax
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On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town? You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why. Do you want to lynch him? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Not this early, no, but the difference between me and what marv did is he states a whole bunch of reads and specifically stated who he doesn't want to lynch without including Palmar in those reads. I don't have a read on Palmar at all, therefore I have no reason to lynch him. YET. | ||
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getmoript
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Vivax
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On April 22 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Not this early, no, but the difference between me and what marv did is he states a whole bunch of reads and specifically stated who he doesn't want to lynch without including Palmar in those reads. I don't have a read on Palmar at all, therefore I have no reason to lynch him. YET. I kinda fail to see the reason for why you ask somebody about his townread on Palmar, if you don't have intention to lynch Palmar/think he's scum. If you could explain your motivation for that question, maybe, cause I seem to lack creativity. It's basically a similar question to the one asked by hopeless. Hopeless questions was still more scummy cause of its selectivity and cause I can see it coming from scum who don't want townies who trust each other. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Which question of Hopeless's are you referring to? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
i want to policy lynch it ##unvote ##vote getmore | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
I need people to support me in my just cause against hopeless1der. He prefers to discredit townreads and talking about heuristics instead of finding scum. Kush, let's join forces again. Let's become a psychoactive contraceptive another time. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
#1: Please give us a way to see who out of the two of you is talking every post getmoript. I know it's mostly going to be geript, but it would just be nice for clarity's sake. A simple "-geript" at the end of a post would be nice. #2: I honestly don't know what to think of this strange heuristic thing, and I'm honestly more interested to see how oats responds to Palmar, and how Palmar responds to that. I'm overall getting a town-read on Vivax since as Cheesecake said, recklessness is usually a town trait.It's a pretty weak town read, but I just want to get out of this stupid argument that is really getting us nowhere now. #3: Are we even sure that BM was roleclaiming Snape(self-aware miller)? It's probable, but I want to hear his response before confirming that. On that subject, milllers should not roleclaim. It's been said already that we may want to policy lynch roleclaiming millers from this point on, and I'd agree with that, as we can't speculate on what kind of rolelist blazinghand gave us. We don't know how many there are, and as such can not use that info productively (who knows, maybe BH gave us 5 self-aware millers). Those are my thoughts so far, it's good to be back! :D | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 22 2013 03:01 getmoript wrote: It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here. Let me get this straight. This is geript and marv both and you are both playing? | ||
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getmoript
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yamato77
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On April 22 2013 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Defend against what? Why can't he have a townread on Palmar and know he's not going to be active as town and sheep a townread? I'm going to be in Vegas for 4 days next weekend and I'll be playing in a similar fashion (if I live that long) and I'm town, that seems feasible enough. Has he said he's not going to be active? He's here now and you're not asking him anything. You're whole reasoning is bullshit. Palmar, what do you make of this? | ||
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getmoript
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place. Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched. ##Vote: Bill Murray Bill Murray's post wasn't a claim though | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
Since no one has mentioned it, I figure I may as well. At the very least everyone should, when voting for someone, note if their vote puts the person at L-1. Ideally I'd like people to note the position that each vote puts a player in, but it's not nearly as relevant when they're at L/2 votes or less. I'm not sure how I feel about policy lynching people that claim miller. I'd rather spend today's lynch on scum, and I need to see more from BM to know if he is. At this point I would say that miller's should claim if they feel that they're in danger of wasting a detective action (and not before that point), but that all miller claims should be treated as a mark against the player, rather than a scum claim. Enough about policy. Right now I would like to lynch TheRavensName. (I think someone mentioned that they have a town read on him, if you have something relevant that would explain things, please tell me.) On April 21 2013 23:01 TheRavensName wrote: I thought it just genuinely showed disapointment. I've always had difficulty understand what to do at the start of day 1, and I see that there really is no good way to start day 1 in a purely productive way. So I suppose your right, I'm trying to downplay what happens because it doesn't seem productive, unless of course we need to know why Yamato has many weapons that arn' t guns..... And I think its more suspicious to ask in that way rather than, just ask.... seeing as how he didn't even vote baselessly or hasn't made an ssue out of it yet. If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something. Things I don't like about this chain of quotes: "I thought it just genuinely showed dissapointment" that reads scummy to me. It sounds like he tried, and failed to have his post sound like someone who is dissapointed in the atmosphere of the town, and is trying to reaffirm that in other people's minds. He attacks the discussion so far, then sort of waffles on it, but then admits he's trying to attack the discussion. He picks the most meaningless parts of the discussion to bring up, or downplays their importance: Bill Murray talking in caps, reducing Palmar's interaction to an OMGUS, stating the conversation was unproductive, bringing up Yamato's "weapons but not guns", and then saying that small interactions are not particularly important. I don't see critical thought in the way he looks at other players, I think everyone should have come away from the first few pages with a few town reads, but he just looks at it as if it's spam for the sake of spam. @TheRavensName Who would you like to lynch right now? Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere? Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town? On April 22 2013 03:01 getmoript wrote: It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here. Marv, I'd be gay for you if you post more than once or twice per cycle. | ||
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