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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#401
On April 22 2013 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Geript rerrible or scum?

Terrible.

Can you explain the strange value in Vivax's heuristic? I can follow how you discerned Vivax's alignment from his post, but not how you might figure out others based on it/the heuristic he used.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 17:01 GMT
#402
On April 22 2013 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Geript rerrible or scum?


I believe it's possible to possess both of these characteristics simultaneously.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 17:02 GMT
#403
On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote:
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.


Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?

No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:09 GMT
#404
Geript: you were interested in me because you suspected I picked the same role as you in Boardwalk. It had nothing to do with my confidence or whatever, it had to do with my inactivity and your suspicion of my role. It's not applicable in this game as a meta comparison against a different player.

Why else do you want to lynch yamato?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 17:10 GMT
#405
On April 22 2013 02:02 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote:
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.


Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?

No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck.


Then what was that post of yours attempting to achieve? The conclusions you reached were almost all null with a few townie leans here and there. You chose to address people based purely on the time they posted rather than their content. Apparently you did this to justify Vivax's reads, but from what I've seen you could not justify his stance.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:11 GMT
#406
##Vote: geript
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 17:13 GMT
#407
On April 22 2013 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript: you were interested in me because you suspected I picked the same role as you in Boardwalk. It had nothing to do with my confidence or whatever, it had to do with my inactivity and your suspicion of my role. It's not applicable in this game as a meta comparison against a different player.

Why else do you want to lynch yamato?


No, that was the nail in the coffin for why I was interested in you no matter what you choose to believe to the contrary. You choosing NRA solidified me thinking I wasn't crazy to suspect you and your early responses to me attacking you for picking NRA made me feel much better about that suspicion.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:15 GMT
#408
Except you suspected from the beginning that I had the role - that much is explict in the thread.

But whatever - what matters is that you say you want to lynch yamato. I want to know why. It was the only question in my post and you completely ignored it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:16 GMT
#409
And furthermore, I'd like to know why you aren't voting for him if you want to lynch him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 17:17 GMT
#410
On April 21 2013 17:27 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:17 yamato77 wrote:
I'd kill you, too.

##vote yamato77
You're being rather hostile without actually being hostile. Why not just tunnel him so you can get a good read?


Admittedly, that's not in the voting thread. Nor is your vote VE.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
April 21 2013 17:17 GMT
#411
oh hi, just woke up, catching up from page 13
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:19 GMT
#412
geript isn't a player in this game. CHECK MUTHAFUCKA
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 17:20 GMT
#413
On April 22 2013 02:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 02:02 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote:
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.


Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?

No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck.


Then what was that post of yours attempting to achieve? The conclusions you reached were almost all null with a few townie leans here and there. You chose to address people based purely on the time they posted rather than their content. Apparently you did this to justify Vivax's reads, but from what I've seen you could not justify his stance.

Vivax's heuristic is that the people who posted early are more likely town. So I went through the people that posted at that point and decided which of those was more likely to be town based on that heuristic. I was attempting to make my thought process clear there as to who I thought was more likely to be town from posting early. I think as a general rule the heuristic works based on people who post early aren't posting elsewhere and are invested in posting early which makes it more likely that they're town. The problem as I said before is that it doesn't work in every case. I don't think in specific the heuristic works on vets as well as it does on newer players. I really don't understand the crux of what you're trying to get.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 17:20 GMT
#414
On April 22 2013 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
geript isn't a player in this game. CHECK MUTHAFUCKA

hydra bish
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:21 GMT
#415
ANSWER MY QUESTION BISH
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 21 2013 17:23 GMT
#416
I'll be sheeping Palmsy today.

Hope you guys don't mind.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 21 2013 17:24 GMT
#417
On April 22 2013 02:20 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 02:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 02:02 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote:
I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.


Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?

No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck.


Then what was that post of yours attempting to achieve? The conclusions you reached were almost all null with a few townie leans here and there. You chose to address people based purely on the time they posted rather than their content. Apparently you did this to justify Vivax's reads, but from what I've seen you could not justify his stance.

Vivax's heuristic is that the people who posted early are more likely town. So I went through the people that posted at that point and decided which of those was more likely to be town based on that heuristic. I was attempting to make my thought process clear there as to who I thought was more likely to be town from posting early. I think as a general rule the heuristic works based on people who post early aren't posting elsewhere and are invested in posting early which makes it more likely that they're town. The problem as I said before is that it doesn't work in every case. I don't think in specific the heuristic works on vets as well as it does on newer players. I really don't understand the crux of what you're trying to get.


THIS IS THE HEURISTIC LINE, THERE WILL BE NO MENTION OF THE WORD BELOW IT
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 21 2013 17:26 GMT
#418
On April 22 2013 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
And furthermore, I'd like to know why you aren't voting for him if you want to lynch him.

Because I'd much rather give him the chance to speak and defend himself so that I can actually get a read on him. He's clearly not here now so voting for him or attacking him is mostly worthless as it could be wholly ignored. I already stated why I wanted to lynch yamato; because what people do with activity is alignment indicative while amount of activity is not. I haven't seen him be active how was in either PYP or hydra; I don't understand his opening and it doesn't flow from the perception I have of yamato from hydra whatsoever.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 21 2013 17:34 GMT
#419
Defend against what? Why can't he have a townread on Palmar and know he's not going to be active as town and sheep a townread? I'm going to be in Vegas for 4 days next weekend and I'll be playing in a similar fashion (if I live that long) and I'm town, that seems feasible enough. Has he said he's not going to be active?

He's here now and you're not asking him anything. You're whole reasoning is bullshit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 17:55 GMT
#420
HEURISTIC

Ok hai guise I'm awake. Bill Murray has gone and done a very interesting thing and I'm not so sure I understand his line of thinking in millerclaiming so early. Waiting on dat Palmar explanation.

CC you're so town-looking this early you've gotta be scum. Jes' sayin'.

Also Getmoript I didn't realize you guys were hydra-ing. Is it Geript/Mocsta? If so I think my earlier comment about you finding me scummy every game still pretty much applies since you both do it, really.

Um...real talk don't have much by way of reads yet, but VE looks to be town to me. Let the Day 1 shitfest continue and let's all learn something fun! Remember to swish and flick!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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