TL Mafia LXI - Page 198

On May 01 2013 11:10 WaveofShadow wrote:

This fucking guy.
HEY.
Wtf is this?? You're calling him out for essentially EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ALL GAME?

On May 01 2013 11:16 GiygaS wrote:

I never went :"GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS GUY?" Just because I've posted cases mostly on people already under suspicion does not mean that I haven't put work in to them. Now that I've read Yamato's post on Hopeless, I see that he's doing that either now as well.

On April 22 2013 01:38 getmoript wrote:

I think there's a reasonable value oddly enought to the Vivax conjecture. Anyone who posted early is more likely, as a general rule, to be town as scum are more likely consult a QT for direction and coordinate first. The problem with the heuristic is quite simply that it doesn't work for everyone equally; as a general rule, I think it's likely to be true, but without applying it to the specific people that posted early makes it more of a generally worthless statement.
Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then
yamato--I am unaware of his scum tendencies, but don't think that posting early is indicative either way
oats--AFAIK he's a vet, in the least he's towards the spammy aggressive side which makes posting early non-alignment indicative
WoS--he always rolls scum so there's that I guess
geript--Clearly an egotistical maniac and posted in The Game early as scum, so again non-alignment indicative
Shaio--No clue as to experience, wanting to kill BM is more likely town
Vivax--I'm not familiar enough with his meta, but the odd statement alone makes me think he's more likely town as I don't think he's crazy enough to spout that as scum

So far, the list of people that I'm not interested in lynching today:
Sylencia
Vivax
Shaio
Palmar

On April 22 2013 06:45 Ace wrote:
@Sharrant: RN looks like a noobie to me.

On May 01 2013 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:

Show me, GoogleS. Show me your cases. I want to see them. And I already know about the Sylencia case. Show me.

On May 01 2013 11:16 GiygaS wrote:

I never went :"GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS GUY?" Just because I've posted cases mostly on people already under suspicion does not mean that I haven't put work in to them. Now that I've read Yamato's post on Hopeless, I see that he's doing that either now as well.

On May 01 2013 11:23 GiygaS wrote:
Some other things I've noticed:



Here Ace defends TRN, if either come up mafia, lynch the other. Can one of the vets answer my question about Ace's activity btw?

On May 01 2013 11:28 GiygaS wrote:
I should note this is when sharrant was pushing on TRN and asked him what he thought. It's a soft defense, is it not?

On April 22 2013 21:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
What the fuck is this suspicion on me based on? My determination to "Shut down townreads"? Yes, when you're handing them out like hotcakes and trying to hold hands singing kumbya. This is Mafia, not summer camp singalong.

I'm not discouraging reasonable townreads, I'm trying to keep things objective and informed. The two points against me are my comments on VE's entrance and Vivax/Palmar's entrance posts.

For VE, watch carefully:

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Am I trying to prevent townreads? You could say that. However, the reasoning used to attain a townread on VE was true of literally every player in the game. It's the equivalent of calling anyone who doesn't post for more than an hour scum. Man's gotta sleep right? Same way he has to READ THE OP TO LEARN WHAT HIS ROLE IS???

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Vivax/Palmar's openings:

Palmar, based on the plethora of information from Vivax's two posts, the first ones in the game, declares Vivax to be unlynchable. Just like that. And that was alright because I felt similar about it. I mean I'd still have an open mind, but Vivax's post did put me onto a townier side of Vivax. My problem with Palmar's post was that he called something really fucking stupid a valuable towntell heuristic.

Let me break this shit down:

DAY 1 POST timestamp
On April 21 2013 16:55 Blazinghand wrote:

Vivax's first posts, the ones Palmar was referring to


So roughly an hour and a half. In addition there were 15ish posts between 6 players, obs notwithstanding. Also, the game started in the dead of night where I am.

Hydra Mini
scum in ~30 minutes, 33 posts into the game.

Ego Mini:
scum posted within an hour of game start. 34 posts in.

Noir Mini:
scum four minutes and 6 posts into the game

British Empire II
second post of the game 3 minutes in.

Red team's prize
Scum in under an hour, 25 posts in.

The Game
scum 5 minutes in, second post

All of these games violate Vivax's heuristic, but fuck me for pointing it out (without proof i guess) and questioning Palmar as to why he felt it was valuable, eh guys? . These are literally games just going down the list of the TL Mafia forum. I'm obviouscum trying to derail town from giving out
Completely valid and well thought out town reads based on sound reasoning.

Nah, you can all go die in a fire if you want to lynch me for this.

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As of right now, I'm on Sharrant's side and would lynch rayn. I disllike his backpedal about "policy" miller lynching. I dislike his case overall as it is largely OMGUS, but still asks questions of the person he is accusing. However, his preface to his case was here:



These two quotes don't accomplish anything to me. He's just throwing the question back at sharrant like a stall tactic of feigning disbelief. For having come up with a scumread on Sharrant it seems grounded in the fact that Sharrant is wrong, not necessarily scum.


"If I WERE mafia, blah blah blah" No. I say you ARE mafia.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

On May 01 2013 11:35 TheRavensName wrote:
Gly, I dislike that your trying to bring up such old old shit when so much stuff has happened sense then.

On May 01 2013 11:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Good case.
I'm done guys, I'm just done.