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On April 29 2013 10:34 Ace wrote:
Sharrant dont vote syl yet. Look at those detective checks. Why would he investigate those 2 and claim when he is unconfirmed? he just made a case on sylencia - what is the rush? Palmar's claim should cause him to NOT claim if he is a real detective.
he panicked, who cares?
people play like shit occasionally, I just made a premature claim because I'm lazy. Stop with the nonsense.
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On April 29 2013 10:34 Ace wrote:
Sharrant dont vote syl yet. Look at those detective checks. Why would he investigate those 2 and claim when he is unconfirmed? he just made a case on sylencia - what is the rush? Palmar's claim should cause him to NOT claim if he is a real detective.
You should know by now people don't always play the way you expect them to, or the 'right' way.
Ace assuming we follow through with the lynch on Sylencia and Palmar's worst case scenario comes to pass, what are you worried about?
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On April 29 2013 10:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 10:31 Ace wrote:
no, we aren't lynching syl. There is stupidity going on right now.
CC - I dont know why you checked Shiao Night 1. That is a major stretch that you check him, he gets brought up, temp cleared, and then you check sylencia. thats 2 lurkers who have no impact on the game that you checked. not buying it. especially since you just claimed, without counter claiming Palmar. If you believe Palmar is a Cop there is no point in claiming right now as you'd let BC die with your vote. If you dont believe him, you vote him off. Claiming right now to add another suspect in the pool is nonsense. its not even been an hour since your case on sylencia - you could have pushed it ot let it marinate more. Your urgency shows little thinking here.
Lastly, you also can not confirm your check. Shiao hasn't flipped. We've got 2 Cops, both unconfirmed claiming results on the same day within an hour of each other. Both that also appeared on the infamous Oats wagon analysis.
bullshit. one of you is definitely lying and both of you made a bad play here. lol Ace we ARE lynching sylencia. absolute worst case scenario is CC is scum and we lynch townies for 2 days before lynching or vigging CC in return, leaving us with plenty of townies and like 2 mafia left. something like 11 townies maybe? You're crazy if you don't lynch sylencia.
I agree with this. If we lynch Syl, we can lynch CC if it goes badly, The modkill bought us an extra day safely.
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Ace, are you stupid?
ShaioPi is probably town -- you said it yourself yesterday. Of course, it's not confirmed. I'll give you that. My checks are real, though. Why else would I go through all the effort to suddenly make a case on Syl out of no where? We might have two cops -- either Palmar is the Insane/paranoid cop and I'm the sane one, or he's lying and he's being suicidal.
Lynch Sylencia today. Was I supposed to let us lynch BC knowing full well that I'm the alignment cop with a guilty check on Syl? And that Palmar, if cop, is probably insane/paranoid? Bullshit.
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On April 29 2013 10:34 Ace wrote:
Sharrant dont vote syl yet. Look at those detective checks. Why would he investigate those 2 and claim when he is unconfirmed? he just made a case on sylencia - what is the rush? Palmar's claim should cause him to NOT claim if he is a real detective.
You're right. I'll think about this more, I'll be taking my vote off for now.
I guess the first place to start is where CC ended up on ShiaoPi yesterday.
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If we mislynch twice and lose 2 people per night, and the day we'd lynch CC we'd be at
13-2-1 assuming 3rd party.
Not the worst position to be in, though I don't like the idea of this potentially halting all discussion since we have predetermined lynch targets each day.
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NVM my math is mega fauty.
10-2-1 after we lynch CC.
That's actually not great.
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On April 29 2013 10:35 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 10:34 Palmar wrote:On April 29 2013 10:31 Ace wrote:
no, we aren't lynching syl. There is stupidity going on right now.
CC - I dont know why you checked Shiao Night 1. That is a major stretch that you check him, he gets brought up, temp cleared, and then you check sylencia. thats 2 lurkers who have no impact on the game that you checked. not buying it. especially since you just claimed, without counter claiming Palmar. If you believe Palmar is a Cop there is no point in claiming right now as you'd let BC die with your vote. If you dont believe him, you vote him off. Claiming right now to add another suspect in the pool is nonsense. its not even been an hour since your case on sylencia - you could have pushed it ot let it marinate more. Your urgency shows little thinking here.
Lastly, you also can not confirm your check. Shiao hasn't flipped. We've got 2 Cops, both unconfirmed claiming results on the same day within an hour of each other. Both that also appeared on the infamous Oats wagon analysis.
bullshit. one of you is definitely lying and both of you made a bad play here. lol Ace we ARE lynching sylencia. absolute worst case scenario is CC is scum and we lynch townies for 2 days before lynching or vigging CC in return, leaving us with plenty of townies and like 2 mafia left. something like 11 townies maybe? You're crazy if you don't lynch sylencia. you claimed cop, couldn't even substantiate it, voted to lynch BC off and are now going against that check to vote another unconfirmed cop's suspect off. you aren't this bad. stop it.
Not going against my check, it's simple statistics.
I know I'm paranoid, insane or sane. If I lynch BC and he flips scum I'm paranoid or sane if he flips town I'm insane or paranoid, neither case concludes my sanity.
however CC's check is on someone I have a strong townread on as town, and he has one of each, so we know he's not naive or paranoid.
Best case: he's sane, we kill scum
almost as good: he's insane, I'm wrong, we kill townie today and get scum tomorrow. There's 15v3v1 likely alive today, so that means we lynch scum tomorrow and end up in like 10v2v1 on day 5
worst case: he's scum, we lynch townies two days in a row and end up in 7v2v1 on day 6, which is still very, very winnable.
expanding worst case:
now: 15-3-1
lynch 14-3-1
2kills 12-3-1
lynch 11-3-1
2kills 9-3-1
lynch 9-2-1
2kills 7-2-1
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Why do you guys think I wanted to flip ShaioPi so bad? Lol, needed to confirm my sanity. Eventually I just concede to lynching Clarity because he was scummy, which turned out to be a good move.
With a confirmed Framer and unaware miller, as well as a possible real miller, I don't see the point in me not being sane at this point. Would be stupid if I wasn't.
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On April 29 2013 10:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Ace, are you stupid?
ShaioPi is probably town -- you said it yourself yesterday. Of course, it's not confirmed. I'll give you that. My checks are real, though. Why else would I go through all the effort to suddenly make a case on Syl out of no where? We might have two cops -- either Palmar is the Insane/paranoid cop and I'm the sane one, or he's lying and he's being suicidal.
Lynch Sylencia today. Was I supposed to let us lynch BC knowing full well that I'm the alignment cop with a guilty check on Syl? And that Palmar, if cop, is probably insane/paranoid? Bullshit.
even if you assume Shiaoi is Town there is 0 reason to claim right now. Palmar is already leading a lynch to BC. whether you believe him or not you are under 0 pressure. And that is the biigest reason I dont believe you.
because in a game with possible 3rd parties and scum KP if you're a real cop you wouldn't claim. You know your chances of dying are high tonight. You didn't even attempt to refute Palmar's claim and bought it at face value. We can only lynch 1 person at a time - why would you claim so quickly after another unconfirmed cop did? You are absolutely sure it must be syl that is guilty but have no inclination towards a Palmar/BC resolution. Why?
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Alright well aside from this cop bullshit, are Sylencia and Shiao worth lynching of their own (lack of) merit?
Personally after discussing last night with geript and rayn I don't see why Shiao is town, and I'd have to re-read the case on Sylencia as well as look at him myself.
Ace are you going to be looking to push one of the cop claims? Yamato? What's your target for today?
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Palmar I still think that was stupid as fuck to claim cop and tunnel-vote BC based on a check you have no idea is true or not. That's if you're a cop.
Syl could also be the 3rd party, I'll have you guys remember.
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Why would Palmar fakeclaim cop right now if what I don't understand if he's mafia.
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Unless he's going for the suicide play. Hoping the real cop would check him and he's the GF? Idk. But two cops isn't out of the ordinary, right?
Either way I'm not lynching anyone other than Sylencia today.
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its really a matter of which one of these 2 is more rotten, and its possible both are.
the pool of Palmar, VE, yamato, and now Mr.CC stinks. I dont believe both Palmar and Mr.CC can be so dumb as to not think their claims and current game situation out. Not buying it.
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I don't care if I die tonight -- I didn't even want to claim until Palmar was being stupid. If BC flipped town, and Palmar actually was insane cop, we mislynch him as well and THEN I claim? How would anybody believe me at that point?
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On April 29 2013 10:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why would Palmar fakeclaim cop right now if what I don't understand if he's mafia.
have you been reading this game? Look at my post referring to Palmar's Cop claim.
There are a bunch of people being lazy and not playing this game seriously. I dont believe every single one of you are skating by on the lazy town excuse.
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On April 29 2013 10:46 Ace wrote:
its really a matter of which one of these 2 is more rotten, and its possible both are.
the pool of Palmar, VE, yamato, and now Mr.CC stinks. I dont believe both Palmar and Mr.CC can be so dumb as to not think their claims and current game situation out. Not buying it.
Ace being Ace.
We're lynching Sylencia.
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I wouldn't have claimed if Palmar didn't go full retard and give us a red check without any prior checks. The situation could have turned out STUPID bad if BC was town and Palmar was actually insane cop, hedging his bets on being sane.
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On April 29 2013 10:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I don't care if I die tonight -- I didn't even want to claim until Palmar was being stupid. If BC flipped town, and Palmar actually was insane cop, we mislynch him as well and THEN I claim? How would anybody believe me at that point?
because then youd have 3 investigations and be sure of your sanity.
you didnt think this through much did you?
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