EPTYamato and Mocsta also good candidates, I liked yamato's ideas and mocsta's discussion.
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Vivax
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Yamato and Mocsta also good candidates, I liked yamato's ideas and mocsta's discussion. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn Simple question. Do you think that its more important for town to get good power roles, or for town to stop scum from getting good power roles? I think it's more important to get good power roles in top picks, and the top picks need to be town if we are going to let some people pick above others. I also think it's beneficial to town to agree on some town reads and let them pick first. 6+ pickers can deny the roles good for mafia, or 1-5 if they feel like it. A question to you: Do you think there are mafia in this list and if yes, why: raynpelikoneet geript yamato mocsta sharrant ? | ||
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Restraining Order
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:20 Keirathi wrote: So lets say we follow your plan, and give the top 5 picks to the guys that you said. And lets say t hat one of them is scum, and picks Janitor or CPR Doc. How exactly do they get outed by getting to pick those roles for free with no contest? The fact that they do not die in the first couple of cycles and there is going to be cops and stuff anyways. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335236¤tpage=19 why do you disagree with them? Rayn im null on everyone on your list. Thats not the point. The bad part about this plan 1. Top 5 townies choose whatever they want 2. Scum can feel free to pick CPR doc/janitor/voterigger/other scum favored but useless to town roles. So basically no accountability and this doesnt really help town. How does this help town? What if the top 5 choose the same thing? then one is a VT. Which basically made this top 5 thing useless. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fact that they do not die in the first couple of cycles and there is going to be cops and stuff anyways. Worst heuristic to claim someone is scum. Cause they dont get nightkilled. riiiiiiiight. Same with your town heuristic huh. 'active' Buck up buddy. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:28 Restraining Order wrote: Ok, you can keep townhunting them townreads if you want, I sent in my numbers already. They shouldn't be too obtrusive to whatever nonsense you'll come up with, so it's okay. This is like a scumclaim. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
elaborate why not wanting to discuss your plan is scummy please. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Read this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335236¤tpage=19 why do you disagree with them? Rayn im null on everyone on your list. Thats not the point. The bad part about this plan 1. Top 5 townies choose whatever they want 2. Scum can feel free to pick CPR doc/janitor/voterigger/other scum favored but useless to town roles. So basically no accountability and this doesnt really help town. How does this help town? What if the top 5 choose the same thing? then one is a VT. Which basically made this top 5 thing useless. Why the fuck would top 5 choose the same thing? How is CPRdoc bad for town? What do you exactly want? Everyone to claim what they pick? If not, how are you doing anything different than what i proposed? Except that in my proposition the top 5 picks are most likely town. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fact that they do not die in the first couple of cycles and there is going to be cops and stuff anyways. This is actually an interesting perspective. Giving strong roles to "weak" townies forces scum to choose between shooting better players or better roles. *NORMALLY* they pick the better player. Which would kind of make your plan fail. But maybe some of the roles are actually strong enough to counter-act that. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck would top 5 choose the same thing? How is CPRdoc bad for town? What do you exactly want? Everyone to claim what they pick? If not, how are you doing anything different than what i proposed? Except that in my proposition the top 5 picks are most likely town. 1. CPR doc is not the best role or even top 5 for town. 2. The top 5 might choose the same roles cause they DONT KNOW what one of the others is choosing 3. I want to have at max 2, maybe 3 townreads who take out the 2/3 best roles for scum and never use them. The rest is FFA. | ||
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Restraining Order
Qatar276 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:33 Oatsmaster wrote: elaborate why not wanting to discuss your plan is scummy please. You must have forgotten, but you also think I'm mafia. | ||
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Vivax
22180 Posts
I would like Palmar and VE to comment on this stuff and tell us who they would like to get the first drafts. Not used to them being so disinterested. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:37 Restraining Order wrote: You must have forgotten, but you also think I'm mafia. I must have. refresh my memory please  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:36 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. CPR doc is not the best role or even top 5 for town. 2. The top 5 might choose the same roles cause they DONT KNOW what one of the others is choosing 3. I want to have at max 2, maybe 3 townreads who take out the 2/3 best roles for scum and never use them. The rest is FFA. 1. Yes it is, imo. I can see though why you disagree. IT'S A FUCKING UNLIMITED NIGHT VIGI! It's better that town has it than that scum has it. 2. So how do you propose we avoid this? With top 2-3 claiming what they picked? That's just dumb. 3. Why not let 5-8 or whatever deny the roles good for scum? If they have been picked, we know they are in play and possibly in scum hands. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:37 Vivax wrote: Sadly, RO's wasn't a scumclaim. He could just shut up or lie about agreeing with sending in the right numbers while he doesn't. I would like Palmar and VE to comment on this stuff and tell us who they would like to get the first drafts. Not used to them being so disinterested. WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING WHEN YOU PICKED NUMBERS YOU CAN'T CHANGE THEM????? Is it stated somewhere. Seems like a way to say "fu, i don't need to contribute to your plan".. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1. Yes it is, imo. I can see though why you disagree. IT'S A FUCKING UNLIMITED NIGHT VIGI! It's better that town has it than that scum has it. 2. So how do you propose we avoid this? With top 2-3 claiming what they picked? That's just dumb. 3. Why not let 5-8 or whatever deny the roles good for scum? If they have been picked, we know they are in play and possibly in scum hands. 1. Its better for town to have and never use it. Which makes in a BAD ROLE for town. 2. We tell the top 3 to pick whatever role. 3. We dont know which roles are picked and 5-8 is random right? So possibly in scum hands is a bad thing. Especially for OP 1 shot roles. How do we know if 5-8 has janitor if its used? We dont. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
CPR doc Voterigger Janitor | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats if you are town i suggest you think really hard what you are saying right now.. LOOK AT ALL THE USEFUL ADVICE | ||
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