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On April 05 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 03:04 Keirathi wrote:On April 05 2013 02:59 geript wrote:
@All Would everyone be okay if I came up with a set of 5 pods of rolls and the pods to be selected from in specific picks? I'd expect some feedback and editing on them. I'll be completely honest and say I hate plans like this. The game is called Pick YOUR Power. Not Let Everyone Else Pick Your Power For You. For one, I just don't see everyone agreeing, and to me it just ruins the fun of the game type. Nobody is saying what you should pick. I am suggesting that 5 players get to pick first. Is that a good plan or not and are the players town/mafia in your opinion? There are like 100 - or something - roles. If you don't get your favourite pick i'm sure you can find something else that suits you. There are less than 30. This is funny though. You want the 5 players to claim which roles they pick? Then you dont want people to deny. WHY?
Where am i saying i want them to claim what they picked? I am saying i know i am town and the other four are in my opinion most likely to be town. That's why i want them to pick first.
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On April 05 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:04 Keirathi wrote:On April 05 2013 02:59 geript wrote:
@All Would everyone be okay if I came up with a set of 5 pods of rolls and the pods to be selected from in specific picks? I'd expect some feedback and editing on them. I'll be completely honest and say I hate plans like this. The game is called Pick YOUR Power. Not Let Everyone Else Pick Your Power For You. For one, I just don't see everyone agreeing, and to me it just ruins the fun of the game type. Nobody is saying what you should pick. I am suggesting that 5 players get to pick first. Is that a good plan or not and are the players town/mafia in your opinion? There are like 100 - or something - roles. If you don't get your favourite pick i'm sure you can find something else that suits you.
I was responding to geripts plan to full pod out the game. IE: people in slots 1-4 only pick roles A, B, C, or D. Players in slots 5-6 only pick roles from E, F, G, or H.
That's boring to me.
I'm fine with players being given first picks (in theory) if they are going to use them to deny scum roles. If they're just going to pick whatever they feel like, then I disagree.
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Why is Oats just so disruptive (yeah why?). Nay-saying without contributing and calling people scummy when it's not about lynching anyway. It's about picking the towniest looking guys and let them send in the right numbers.
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shotgun bullet bill if i dont get a high draft pick
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On April 05 2013 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Why is Oats just so disruptive (yeah why?). Nay-saying without contributing and calling people scummy when it's not about lynching anyway. It's about picking the towniest looking guys and let them send in the right numbers.
I agree with this
townreads on 4 people so far from me
i also have an idea in relation to sending in numbers
we could have everyone do so democratically, ranking 1-23 with all the players in there, in slots, and then make a composite list of all of the people who have what numbers. we can then be able to analyze the way people have moved from where. we need to enforce this to get more activity from people, and see where the lurkers are.
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On April 05 2013 03:04 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 02:59 geript wrote:
@All Would everyone be okay if I came up with a set of 5 pods of rolls and the pods to be selected from in specific picks? I'd expect some feedback and editing on them. I'll be completely honest and say I hate plans like this. The game is called Pick YOUR Power. Not Let Everyone Else Pick Your Power For You. For one, I just don't see everyone agreeing, and to me it just ruins the fun of the game type.
Nothing prevents you from picking a completely different power though. That's the awesomeness of it. By having a specific plan of this sort, so long as even 50% of town goes by this sort of plan, then the plan can seriously fuck up scum. You STILL get to pick whatever oddball power that you want, but if a majority agree that it's a good plan it because exceptionally dangerous for scum to both follow and not follow. Why can't you as a strong player decide push this plan and try and get others to follow it? Can't you realize the merit it has? Or do you have an actual objection to the plan other than just "Me no likey?"
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On April 05 2013 03:10 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 03:04 Keirathi wrote:On April 05 2013 02:59 geript wrote:
@All Would everyone be okay if I came up with a set of 5 pods of rolls and the pods to be selected from in specific picks? I'd expect some feedback and editing on them. I'll be completely honest and say I hate plans like this. The game is called Pick YOUR Power. Not Let Everyone Else Pick Your Power For You. For one, I just don't see everyone agreeing, and to me it just ruins the fun of the game type. Nobody is saying what you should pick. I am suggesting that 5 players get to pick first. Is that a good plan or not and are the players town/mafia in your opinion? There are like 100 - or something - roles. If you don't get your favourite pick i'm sure you can find something else that suits you. I was responding to geripts plan to full pod out the game. IE: people in slots 1-4 only pick roles A, B, C, or D. Players in slots 5-6 only pick roles from E, F, G, or H. That's boring to me. I'm fine with players being given first picks (in theory) if they are going to use them to deny scum roles. If they're just going to pick whatever they feel like, then I disagree.
I don't think the players who are going to pick first should be limited to X number of roles. They should pick whatever they feel is best for the town. It's beneficial to town to have as many upper slots as possible.
In one PYP i remember mafia!Chezinu picking CPRdoctor as ~#22. FUCKING CPRdoctor @ #22!!! There needs to be some cooperation in the picks, but it can't be too obvious or it's advantageous to mafia.
If someone of us is mafia it doesn't matter, we need to be responsible for our actions regarding our role anyways.
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[QUOTE]There are like 100 - or something - roles. If you don't get your favourite pick i'm sure you can find something else that suits you.
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Um you pick once or you get VT.
So I assume that Hapa knowing that he didnt get his favourite pick would involve him knowing what the 5 candidates picked.
[QUOTE]On April 05 2013 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Why is Oats just so disruptive (yeah why?). Nay-saying without contributing and calling people scummy when it's not about lynching anyway. It's about picking the towniest looking guys and let them send in the right numbers.[/QUOTE]
Somebody sounds scared.
This is exactly what I said about scum trying to push an idea that SOUNDS townie but isnt the towniest plan so far. IE
Vivax pushing Rayn's plan, which doesnt involve denying roles. which is the point of directing people to get to the top of the list anyway.
BM's idea sounds like its really really easy for scum to abuse.
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And i still don't see why people in top spots must ABSOPLUTELY deny strong mafia roles that do not benefit town? If we follow Vivax plan mafia in top 5 will get outed at some point or they are town and 6-> can deny the roles if they feel like it.
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Rayn
Simple question.
Do you think that its more important for town to get good power roles, or for town to stop scum from getting good power roles?
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On April 05 2013 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +For instance, take a look at all others that "chimed in" with "pro-town plans" and stuff.....yet made absolutely no impact at all in the game
It's possible you'll find your first scums in there (if not on the inactive/"bored" players as well). Prove it. Also isnt the point of having 5 'confirmed' townies in order to choose the roles to deny from mafia for them?
Prove what? Who is scum out of those "non-productive plan-sayers"?
That will have to wait my young student. Patience is a virtue...
...it shouldn't be hard to realize though, almost everybody chimed in with some "plan" or another, yet I (and I think most of you) can't even remember who those were or what they proposed or what they did to push it or push discussion forward.
Anyways see ya in 7-8 hours
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ME
deconduo
Palmar
raynpelikoneet
visceraeyes
vivax
gonzaw
austinmcc
sinani206
strongandbig
meapak_ziphh
artanis[xp]
sharrant
sn0_man
keirathi
Obviousone
geript
restraining order
shelvocke
yamato77
mocsta
23. Oatmaster
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Supporting gonzaw and rayn for high picks so far. Objections?
I suggest everyone makes a list of his top 5 townreads to send in highest numbers, and we find the ones most agree on.
If there's someone mostly suggesting scum in his list, we will find out later.
That's why scum will try to stop this plan.
1. Rayn
2. Gonzaw
3. Vivax (duh)
4.-5. : To find out.
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On April 05 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i still don't see why people in top spots must ABSOPLUTELY deny strong mafia roles that do not benefit town? If we follow Vivax plan mafia in top 5 will get outed at some point or they are town and 6-> can deny the roles if they feel like it.
So lets say we follow your plan, and give the top 5 picks to the guys that you said.
And lets say t hat one of them is scum, and picks Janitor or CPR Doc. How exactly do they get outed by getting to pick those roles for free with no contest?
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[QUOTE]On April 05 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]There are like 100 - or something - roles. If you don't get your favourite pick i'm sure you can find something else that suits you.
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Um you pick once or you get VT.
So I assume that Hapa knowing that he didnt get his favourite pick would involve him knowing what the 5 candidates picked.
[QUOTE]On April 05 2013 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Why is Oats just so disruptive (yeah why?). Nay-saying without contributing and calling people scummy when it's not about lynching anyway. It's about picking the towniest looking guys and let them send in the right numbers.[/QUOTE]
Somebody sounds scared.
This is exactly what I said about scum trying to push an idea that SOUNDS townie but isnt the towniest plan so far. IE
Vivax pushing Rayn's plan, which doesnt involve denying roles. which is the point of directing people to get to the top of the list anyway.
BM's idea sounds like its really really easy for scum to abuse.
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bullshit
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On April 05 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Supporting gonzaw and rayn for high picks so far. Objections?
I suggest everyone makes a list of his top 5 townreads to send in highest numbers, and we find the ones most agree on.
If there's someone mostly suggesting scum in his list, we will find out later.
That's why scum will try to stop this plan.
1. Rayn
2. Gonzaw
3. Vivax (duh)
4.-5. : To find out.
I suggest we dont ever do this fucking plan because Vivax is proposing it and he is scum.
Should we listen to scum?
Im guessing not right?
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On April 05 2013 03:19 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:For instance, take a look at all others that "chimed in" with "pro-town plans" and stuff.....yet made absolutely no impact at all in the game
It's possible you'll find your first scums in there (if not on the inactive/"bored" players as well). Prove it. Also isnt the point of having 5 'confirmed' townies in order to choose the roles to deny from mafia for them? Prove what? Who is scum out of those "non-productive plan-sayers"? That will have to wait my young student. Patience is a virtue... ...it shouldn't be hard to realize though, almost everybody chimed in with some "plan" or another, yet I (and I think most of you) can't even remember who those were or what they proposed or what they did to push it or push discussion forward. Anyways see ya in 7-8 hours
Um yeah you said its possible, so I want to see you do it.
Lol.
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Vivax...are we only doing 5? At least make it 7.
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On April 05 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Supporting gonzaw and rayn for high picks so far. Objections?
I suggest everyone makes a list of his top 5 townreads to send in highest numbers, and we find the ones most agree on.
If there's someone mostly suggesting scum in his list, we will find out later.
That's why scum will try to stop this plan.
1. Rayn
2. Gonzaw
3. Vivax (duh)
4.-5. : To find out.
No don't put me on top (or rather, don't change plans just to put me on top)
It's easy: I'll pick Inventor.
If nobody picks inventor and I get #23 I'll get inventor anyways.
If everybody says they won't get inventor, I can get position 5-8 and get inventor anyways (as long as I'm above S&B I assume).
If I don't get inventor, then scum got it and we can figure out who he is eventually (as long as I don't go too low on the list).
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On April 05 2013 03:22 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:19 gonzaw wrote:On April 05 2013 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:For instance, take a look at all others that "chimed in" with "pro-town plans" and stuff.....yet made absolutely no impact at all in the game
It's possible you'll find your first scums in there (if not on the inactive/"bored" players as well). Prove it. Also isnt the point of having 5 'confirmed' townies in order to choose the roles to deny from mafia for them? Prove what? Who is scum out of those "non-productive plan-sayers"? That will have to wait my young student. Patience is a virtue... ...it shouldn't be hard to realize though, almost everybody chimed in with some "plan" or another, yet I (and I think most of you) can't even remember who those were or what they proposed or what they did to push it or push discussion forward. Anyways see ya in 7-8 hours Um yeah you said its possible, so I want to see you do it. Lol.
I already called one of them out (VE). Another one is my "hidden gut scumread", I won't reveal because it'd be kind of pointless right now with the lack of content and stuff.
Others are random dudes that are null but can indeed be mafia, at least have much higher chance of being so than those 4-5 on rayn's list.
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