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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:02 cDgCorazon wrote: Prp are you going to actually do something this game or just nitpick my posts? Just explain your post will you? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:39 cDgCorazon wrote: Last but not least is Palmar. Looking through his filter again, I found a lot of posts talking about town reads while he was tunneling Grack. He made a lot of town reads (at least 6-7), and did not give very much explanation on many of them. However, the other stumbling block with Palmar is Grack's kill. If Palmar was scum, why would he kill his tunnel and the person that his primary scumhunting was on? I could see him being town from that, but his other actions have me worried. His random flip-flopping between Nisani and Sinani was really sketch as well, and his D1 play just worries me. This is what I said on Palmar before. That's why I had made that post thinking about Palmar's kill. Also in my filter (because you obviously aren't reading the thread): On March 29 2013 07:29 cDgCorazon wrote: Prp, would you like to start your D2 over and contribute something to the discussion? I don't understand why you are worrying about how much KP the scum have, that's just stupid setup speculation as an excuse for not contributing anything. I want to see some reads, whether you want to show them or not. Let me know when you are interested in actually trying. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:00 strongandbig wrote: Sure I didn't post much during the night phase but at least I was able to respond to some stuff and drop down my suspicions and reasoning on OO. I wouldn't call that "scummy lurking". In other news, lets discuss a hypothetical situation for a minute: Marv apparently lists someone as one of his top scum reads but hasn't actually read or thought about that person's filter. Does that make Marv scum? I feel like town Marv would just be honest and say "I haven't read filters" or "I don't have any strong scum reads right now" instead of pulling them out of his ass. Tbh current Marv reminds me a bit of "this setup is imba so I'm just gonna stop giving a fuck" Marv. That means scum Marv. This entire post is terrible. I have no idea what you're getting at in the middle paragraph, and the final paragraph makes even less sense. I've never stopped giving a fuck as mafia because a setup is imba? This post might be the worst justification for calling me mafia I've ever seen. Somehow it's an even worse justification for voting me than prplhz's, who had no justification whatsoever. *You* are the one who is just pulling this read out your ass. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:07 cDgCorazon wrote: This is what I said on Palmar before. That's why I had made that post thinking about Palmar's kill. Also in my filter (because you obviously aren't reading the thread): Let me know when you are interested in actually trying. That makes no sense at all. You are worrying about Palmar's night kill because of a post you made where you talked about how Palmar could either be town or scum? I fail to see the connection. Rereading that post, why is it a "stumbling block" that Grackaroni was killed? It seems like you're regarding something you think points at Palmar being town as an obstacle. You are also berating me for setup speculation when you are doing the exact same thing in this post. The big difference though, is that your setup speculation is a conclusion that make absolutely no sense (either town or scum vig, no chance of KP) while my "setup speculation" is an interesting question. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:19 Hapahauli wrote: Prplhz. Why are you going after the claimed mason? Because I don't like him. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:21 Hapahauli wrote: Like do you doubt his claim? Do you think he's suspicious? Because his claim (combined with Kei's general townieness) makes this whole line of questioning worthless. I doubt his alignment. Yes I think he's suspicious. I don't know about Keirathi's general townieness, didn't they claim because he was about to get lynched yesterday? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:22 prplhz wrote: I doubt his alignment. Yes I think he's suspicious. I don't know about Keirathi's general townieness, didn't they claim because he was about to get lynched yesterday? Yah. And did you read anything from Kei since then? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Why/why not. Up for an SnB lynch? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:23 Hapahauli wrote: Yah. And did you read anything from Kei since then? Nothing that made me think he's obviously town. What do you think of that post I don't like? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:17 prplhz wrote: That makes no sense at all. You are worrying about Palmar's night kill because of a post you made where you talked about how Palmar could either be town or scum? I fail to see the connection. Rereading that post, why is it a "stumbling block" that Grackaroni was killed? It seems like you're regarding something you think points at Palmar being town as an obstacle. You are also berating me for setup speculation when you are doing the exact same thing in this post. The big difference though, is that your setup speculation is a conclusion that make absolutely no sense (either town or scum vig, no chance of KP) while my "setup speculation" is an interesting question. Prp, you are really grasping at nothing here. I just made a comment that explained the possible night kill. At least I didn't walk in and say "HEY GUYS, HOW MANY MAFIA DO YOU THINK THERE ARE?" which is basically you trying to shit up the thread. Grack being killed was making the Palmar read hard because he wasn't playing a very town-oriented game but scum Palmar would not attack his tunnel target. That was the part that was confusing me. I did not make any set-up speculation in the post you linked. I was wondering whether a town vig or a scum vig did the kill. That's a lot more valuable that mafia's KP. Let me know when you have actual points you want to make. Attacking me with this silly nonsense isn't doing you any favors. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:26 prplhz wrote: Nothing that made me think he's obviously town. What do you think of that post I don't like? That he's a mason? I have a strong enough town-read on Kei that I have no reason to doubt Cora right now. And I think Cora's play hasn't been individually scummy enough to dream up an insane conspiracy theory. On March 30 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Hapa do you agree with what I said about lynching marv earlier? Why/why not. Up for an SnB lynch? SnB is on the back of my mind. My general annoyance with marv's change in playstyle (while probably irrational) takes forefront for now. But anyway, I might as well bring this up - On March 29 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote: hapa did you take a hit? This is a weird quote. I had assumed that scum had 1KP. That's normal in a 16-player game. I find it strange that SnB asked that I got shot after Palmar had flipped. Not only that, but he assumed that it was possible for me to get hit and get notified about it. 1) SnB actually believed that there are 2 scum KP and asked an innocent question. Given his broader assumptions, I find this unlikely 2) SnB is scum and knew I got hit. 3) SnB is some form of medic and saved me 4) SnB is a vig and shot palmar (unlikely, since he wasn't really suspicious of palmar on Day 1). As far as "OMG HAPA U OUT BLUESSSSS"... no I'm not. If he's not scum, any sane mafia player would have picked up on this. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Think for a bit, does this change in playstyle relay information about marv's alignment? Or are you just mad that he is fucking useless. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I saw that, thought it was really scummy, didnt bring it up cause it was so scummy. Think for a bit, does this change in playstyle relay information about marv's alignment? Or are you just mad that he is fucking useless. But see that is exactly how you read marv. Town marv is generally aggressive and absurdly pro-town. He'll pepper everyone with questions, call everyone terrible, and will lead the town for better or for worse (almost always the former). Scum-marv is much more passive, doesn't push his cases strongly, and "goes with the flow." As far as what he's doing now, it falls in the category of scum-marv. I'm willing to keep an open mind to it and see if the new meta he's trying to establish is genuine, but I have 36 hours to reach a conclusion about that. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I saw that, thought it was really scummy, didnt bring it up cause it was so scummy. Think for a bit, does this change in playstyle relay information about marv's alignment? Or are you just mad that he is fucking useless. And... what the fuck? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On March 30 2013 00:54 Hapahauli wrote: But see that is exactly how you read marv. Town marv is generally aggressive and absurdly pro-town. He'll pepper everyone with questions, call everyone terrible, and will lead the town for better or for worse (almost always the former). Scum-marv is much more passive, doesn't push his cases strongly, and "goes with the flow." Explain the scum meta part please  Town games: In MTG AFAIK, he was useless. In Chrono as far as my memory holds out, he was useless. Scum games: Trolled themed, didnt stop my mislynch, generally active and it took a vig shot to kill him. In Hero, again really active, abrasive, fuckton of useless 1 liners, survived to the end. I didnt read any of his other scum games, you mind telling me what this meta read comes from? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
If you have any questions, ask them quick (around 1 hour) because after that I'll be occupied by my friends. | ||
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