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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#1218
*insistent about meta
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#1225
On March 28 2013 06:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:37 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:32 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't really know who else is mafia. I was thinking Cora was suspicious but he's probably not scum.

I'll have to look things over.

Guys
Guys
Lol this is the right person to lynch.


Since when the hell are you suspicious of Nisani?


Given you're insistent about mafia, you need to answer/talk to me about what I found when looking at sinani's meta.


I beat you to that like 15 minutes ago bud. I unvoted a while ago.


My apologies. Sorry for missing that, I was distracted by the Kei stuff I guess.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:57 GMT
#1245
On March 28 2013 06:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Mebe. I think I'd kill Yamato over him at this point tbh.


The thing I like least about this lynch is that Smurf is on it, tbh :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:58 GMT
#1250
I'm glad Nisani has used his time to give us his thoughts on the game and his dying reads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:03 GMT
#1273
On March 28 2013 07:01 cDgCorazon wrote:
Good thing he flipped town because now I can confidently say that Marv has no clue what he is doing.


When you've caught a single mafia in your life, you can make sarcastic comments at me.

Until then, shut your pipehole.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:04 GMT
#1274
That was a really cruel way to do the flip too -.-
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#1281
On March 28 2013 07:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
I also caught half of the scum team in Personality. If you can't remember that.


you tunnelled a townie (yamato) and called everyone who attacked you mafia, fortunately bagging 2 mafia in that process. Catching mafia also involves getting them lynched, rather than being lynched yourself. Just sayin'
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:10 GMT
#1284
On March 28 2013 07:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well they would've been lynched if you hadn't decided the "magic marker" turned my flip to red.

Seriously Marv you're not doing yourself any favors here.


The day I care about your opinion of me is the day I give up mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:13 GMT
#1287
On March 28 2013 07:12 prplhz wrote:
Be nice guys.


Trust me, this is very restrained ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:17 GMT
#1289
On March 28 2013 07:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Corazon does have a point marv. You spent most of Day 1 championing 2 mislynches. Your support of lynching Kei ESPECIALLY after Kei started spamming up the thread in his defense looks rather poor given how well you know him.


What? I went to make and eat dinner, I wasn't here.

For your pleasure, next time a lynch comes around I will starve myself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:27 GMT
#1292
I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:32 GMT
#1294
On March 28 2013 07:30 Keirathi wrote:
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On March 28 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed.

Looking back through your filter, did you really use "Keir is saying ':o; a bunch" as evidence of me being scum?

Like, I talk to you on IRC quite often. I always use stupid emoticons. How was that even relevant AT ALL? Would be like me calling you scum for saying 'dear'.


(ok I'm still here temporarily)

This isn't IRC, and at least I hadn't noticed/remembered you doing so like you have here in other games, and I thought it was odd, so I mentioned it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 22:41 GMT
#1297
On March 28 2013 07:35 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:30 Keirathi wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed.

Looking back through your filter, did you really use "Keir is saying ':o; a bunch" as evidence of me being scum?

Like, I talk to you on IRC quite often. I always use stupid emoticons. How was that even relevant AT ALL? Would be like me calling you scum for saying 'dear'.


(ok I'm still here temporarily)

This isn't IRC, and at least I hadn't noticed/remembered you doing so like you have here in other games, and I thought it was odd, so I mentioned it.

You know better than to make stupid ass arguments like that. What gives?


Like I said, I mentioned it because I found it odd, and it was at most a small detail in my case against you, which didn't revolve around that at all.

Anyway I really am off now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 11:07 GMT
#1377
On March 28 2013 07:51 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:35 Keirathi wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:30 Keirathi wrote:
On March 28 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed.

Looking back through your filter, did you really use "Keir is saying ':o; a bunch" as evidence of me being scum?

Like, I talk to you on IRC quite often. I always use stupid emoticons. How was that even relevant AT ALL? Would be like me calling you scum for saying 'dear'.


(ok I'm still here temporarily)

This isn't IRC, and at least I hadn't noticed/remembered you doing so like you have here in other games, and I thought it was odd, so I mentioned it.

You know better than to make stupid ass arguments like that. What gives?


Like I said, I mentioned it because I found it odd, and it was at most a small detail in my case against you, which didn't revolve around that at all.

Anyway I really am off now

It's not about "revolving" around it. It's that you included it at all.

Hell, for the sake of argument, I went back and ctrl+f'd through my games for ':o'. I had a grand total of 1 instance in scum games (when I was arguing BL on the last day of GSL 3), and like 40'ish instances in my town games. And you, better than anyone, should know that I use emoticons in casual conversation.

So, to me, that whole point was 100% an appeal to emotion. It had 0 basis in fact, and was only there to make you case look better.

Do you not see why that is scummy as fuck?


Nope, because I didn't have to include it in my case if I were 'fabricating' it, as it doesn't add anything in particular.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 12:26 GMT
#1381
On March 28 2013 11:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed.

I don't understand how you have too many town reads in this game. I literally have 3 town reads I have any confidence in, and another 3 players I am willing to consider town, because I don't think they play like this as scum.

That leaves you, Sinani, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, SnB, Smurf and OO in the null to scum range. I am really dying to know how you have any kind of confident town range on them.


I was somewhat town to varying degrees on Oats, you, Dandel, reyn, Hapa, prplhz, Corazon, OO
Null for whatever reason on sinani, Palmar, s&b
Orange on Kei, smurf, nisani
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 12:55 GMT
#1384
On March 28 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 21:22 Palmar wrote:
On March 28 2013 17:36 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 28 2013 17:26 Palmar wrote:
On March 28 2013 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar why did you agree to the Keirathi lynch pushed by your scumread marv and agreed by your other scumread me?


on the off chance I was wrong.

He (we, as in Palmar and I) were already wrong on Grack. It could be a fatal disease for both of us. In re-reading the thread (I'm up to p21) I'm leaning town on Rayn btw. You still leaning town on Rayn, Palmar? That's the last I remember of you mentioning him off the top of my head.


I'm almost always wrong on my initial day 1 read, which is why I always revise the read before lynchtime.

As for rayn, I don't think he's town. I liked his initial contributions but I feel some of the things he said since have been pretty strange. I will elaborate later. Then again, I don't think he's our number 1 scum lynch for tomorrow. I still haven't decided where I want to take that.

This is my main problem with you. Earlier (when you were pushing Grack) you said you had "a copule of other targets to explore". When Grack died you were totally clueless and just threw a list of five people and didn't push any of those for lynch (no, i don't think you voting for sinani counts as pushing). From what i remember about you from games i have read you are pretty fucking confident as town, especially on D1 (when you are town). This is nowhere near your normal town play.

And your thoughts about the vigi shot are just.. meh..


I actually agree with this and it's the reason Palmar was in null at the end of the day and not leaning town as I'd originally had him. Palmar effectively abdicated responsibility for the Day 1 lynch and I don't like that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 13:03 GMT
#1386
On March 28 2013 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 28 2013 21:22 Palmar wrote:
On March 28 2013 17:36 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 28 2013 17:26 Palmar wrote:
On March 28 2013 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar why did you agree to the Keirathi lynch pushed by your scumread marv and agreed by your other scumread me?


on the off chance I was wrong.

He (we, as in Palmar and I) were already wrong on Grack. It could be a fatal disease for both of us. In re-reading the thread (I'm up to p21) I'm leaning town on Rayn btw. You still leaning town on Rayn, Palmar? That's the last I remember of you mentioning him off the top of my head.


I'm almost always wrong on my initial day 1 read, which is why I always revise the read before lynchtime.

As for rayn, I don't think he's town. I liked his initial contributions but I feel some of the things he said since have been pretty strange. I will elaborate later. Then again, I don't think he's our number 1 scum lynch for tomorrow. I still haven't decided where I want to take that.

This is my main problem with you. Earlier (when you were pushing Grack) you said you had "a copule of other targets to explore". When Grack died you were totally clueless and just threw a list of five people and didn't push any of those for lynch (no, i don't think you voting for sinani counts as pushing). From what i remember about you from games i have read you are pretty fucking confident as town, especially on D1 (when you are town). This is nowhere near your normal town play.

And your thoughts about the vigi shot are just.. meh..


I actually agree with this and it's the reason Palmar was in null at the end of the day and not leaning town as I'd originally had him. Palmar effectively abdicated responsibility for the Day 1 lynch and I don't like that.

How does it make Palmar null and not scum?


Because I'd been leaning town on him previously for a couple of reasons, namely that I perceived his posts/thoughts to be sincere. So what you described balanced out the plus and minus columns.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 13:18 GMT
#1388
rayn, how do you view me given I basically pushed two mislynches?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 13:50 GMT
#1390
Oh, and there was one other thing about Palmar I didn't like, demonstrating he didn't read the thread / can't remember his own thoughts. I don't quite know what to make of it though:

On March 27 2013 08:34 Palmar wrote:
a few more reads. Initially I was leaning slight scum on Keirathi but now I don't know what to make of it. He defended prplhz against s&b's case based on reasons I don't entirely agree with, seeing as I actually think prplhz is being much more useless than when he's playing lazy town.

But the little fact that Keirathi then proceeded to call out prplhz makes me think his defense may not have been an absolute stance, but a fluid one. It's not a huge town-tell, but it's something.


On March 28 2013 05:05 Palmar wrote:
there's plenty of time for marv to push his lynch.

I had keirathi red-ish early on but at some point I swapped my read on him. I did not note down why I did it.

It's tempting to just roll with it, as I'm pretty uncertain myself. I will be back soon to think more.


On March 28 2013 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:05 Palmar wrote:
there's plenty of time for marv to push his lynch.

I had keirathi red-ish early on but at some point I swapped my read on him. I did not note down why I did it.

It's tempting to just roll with it, as I'm pretty uncertain myself. I will be back soon to think more.


I'll tell you why you did it; you did it because you thought Keirathi was defending prplhz at the start of the game, and went on to attack him later, and you found that somewhat of a towntell. An incorrect one in my opinion as Keirathi was merely attacking the bad case on prplhz.


On March 28 2013 05:23 Palmar wrote:
Just a heads up I honestly can't find the reason whatever it was that switched my keirathi read to slight town lean. So I guess if sinani isnt' happening I'm going to support keirathi over nisani dying.


Effectively he forgot his read on Kei somehow, I reminded him, but he wasn't reading the thread and so reiterated what he'd just said about forgetting. This could well just be Palmar being lazy, though. Dunno.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2013 13:52 GMT
#1391
On March 28 2013 22:46 Acrofales wrote:
Marv deserves a special mention, because he was hard on the Nisani wagon, then starts up a counterwagon on Keirathi and then hops back onto Nisani when Keirathi claims mason. But this deserves more extensive analysis... have to decide whether this was town Marv being indecisive or scum Marv screwing around with the lynch.


Fair dinkum, I would say that I'm pretty glad I did what I did with the Kei case in hindsight; in my opinion there's a lot of information to be gained from the Kei push.

Certainly I think the town is in a better position for having that wagon come and go late on Day 1. Obviously I'm not claiming this absolves me or anything, but the very analysis you just made on voting was made possible by my Keir push.
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