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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 19:56 GMT
#1058
On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.


One day you'll learn to read the thread and understand what's happening. Apparently that day is not today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 19:59 GMT
#1061
On March 28 2013 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Sinani is Scum. Here's why:

1) He has a HUGE HISTORY playing with Nisani! He of all people should understand how to read Nisani very well. Instead, his case...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&currentpage=41#809
... is completely comprised of stuff that is in Nisani's town games as well!



I would say that this is a very valid point.

It's partly why I'm very interested in hearing what Nisani has to say about sinani.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#1078
On March 28 2013 05:05 Palmar wrote:
there's plenty of time for marv to push his lynch.

I had keirathi red-ish early on but at some point I swapped my read on him. I did not note down why I did it.

It's tempting to just roll with it, as I'm pretty uncertain myself. I will be back soon to think more.


I'll tell you why you did it; you did it because you thought Keirathi was defending prplhz at the start of the game, and went on to attack him later, and you found that somewhat of a towntell. An incorrect one in my opinion as Keirathi was merely attacking the bad case on prplhz.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:09 GMT
#1080
On March 28 2013 05:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
We have 56 minutes left and Nisani has 8 votes. It's too late for any other wagon besides Sinani and perhaps prp.

The timing of this Kei stuff is either stupid or scummy. I'm going with scummy because I know Marv isn't stupid. It's a power play to save Nisani. I'm not buying it.


We have almost 2 hours left, your timing is wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:10 GMT
#1081
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:12 GMT
#1086
On March 28 2013 05:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.


Then why are bringing up Kei now and not sticking with Nisani?


Because I think Kei is a better lynch, dopeydrawers
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:12 GMT
#1087
We take the Day 1 post as the correct deadline time. Let's move on.

On March 26 2013 07:33 Kurumi wrote:
Day 1

I am already late! Fluff can come tomorrow!

Welcome to the Day 1! Since we have 16 players here, I'll create a voting thread so it is easier for me to manage (I'll rewrite OP accordingly) Remember we're doing Deadline Majority. So you better get 9 people to vote someone or you're left with nothing. We end this day on 28th of March 7:00 KST.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:13 GMT
#1090
On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.


Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?


I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1.

It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched.

@Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas.


Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it.

Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up.

While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes.

And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.



Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused


Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 20:14 GMT
#1091
On March 28 2013 05:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.


Then why are bringing up Kei now and not sticking with Nisani?


Because I think Kei is a better lynch, dopeydrawers


No because a vote for Kei is basically a vote to save Nisani right now. That's why the timing of the case is really suspect.


Again, 2.5 hours is plenty to get a majority. And again

On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:12 GMT
#1160
Interesting. Ok

##Unvote

Corazon, you need to read the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#1165
On March 28 2013 06:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why did you think it was a good idea to claim keir?


So he doesn't get lynched, cupcake.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:14 GMT
#1169
On March 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Marv. The facts speak for themselves.

Nisani was the leading vote getter, and then you decide to make a case on Kei 2 hours before the lynch and vote for him. What else is there to say?


For the third time:


On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.
[/QUOTE]
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:15 GMT
#1172
On March 28 2013 06:13 Palmar wrote:
So they're masons that are confirmed town to each other. Can you recruit into your mason circle? hell explain your role in detail now that it's out there anyway


no, that's totally irrelevant right now. We have 45 minutes to decide the lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:21 GMT
#1187
On March 28 2013 06:15 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Marv. The facts speak for themselves.

Nisani was the leading vote getter, and then you decide to make a case on Kei 2 hours before the lynch and vote for him. What else is there to say?


For the third time:


On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora.


One word: Node.


This is completely dissimilar to that situation.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:23 GMT
#1192
I'm going to go back to Nisani. He hasn't had a legitimate read all game, he went on to Acro and straight off again, he sheeped on to prplhz with no explanation and off again, and then on to Kei for no apparent reason as well. Plus the scumbait thing still gets to me.

##Vote: Nisani201
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:25 GMT
#1194
On March 28 2013 06:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know.

Why did Hapa unvote so fast?

Grr.

Thanks keir for making me confused. >.<

Palmar WE SHOULD LYNCH PALMAR.
or sinani. ##Unvote:
Vote: Sinani


You think Palmar is mafia. Palmar wants to kill sinani, not Nisani. Why are you voting for sinani, then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:28 GMT
#1202
On March 28 2013 06:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know.

Why did Hapa unvote so fast?

Grr.

Thanks keir for making me confused. >.<

Palmar WE SHOULD LYNCH PALMAR.
or sinani. ##Unvote:
Vote: Sinani


You think Palmar is mafia. Palmar wants to kill sinani, not Nisani. Why are you voting for sinani, then?


Because Palmar is known to bus?

Why should I base my reads on associations to unflipped players?



If my primary scumread is voting for a candidate in a choice of 2, I'm fairly likely to think that the other guy is in fact mafia. Palmar has no reason to bus sinani in this instance because Nisani could get lynched.

But whatever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:32 GMT
#1205
On March 28 2013 06:28 Palmar wrote:
don't think he'll flip scum* I mean


The thing is with sinani. Look at his last 3 mafia games on the database. He basically doesn't post.

He's already posted more in this game than any of those 3 games where he was potentially alive for days. I'm not seeing it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:38 GMT
#1213
Seriously, people, go look at the database at sinani's games. In his last 3 mafia games he's not broken a page of filter. In his very first mafia game he made it on to his 3rd page in 4 cycles.

He looks clearly more interested this game than in those games. Don't you think?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#1216
On March 28 2013 06:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 06:37 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 28 2013 06:32 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't really know who else is mafia. I was thinking Cora was suspicious but he's probably not scum.

I'll have to look things over.

Guys
Guys
Lol this is the right person to lynch.


Since when the hell are you suspicious of Nisani?


Given you're insistent about mafia, you need to answer/talk to me about what I found when looking at sinani's meta.
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